Revolving Door

[bigneville]

Wesolowski will NOT go on to be a big player for this club.

Thats a very bold statement TPH.

Some parts agree with you in the fact that our midfield is so poor at the minute and the boy can't hold down a place. Maybe injuries have played a part. But if the supposed brightest thing to come out of Australia can't get in our midfield. He can't be that good can he?

Other parts disagree because i've seen potential in the boy, i just dont think he's been fit for a continued period of time, and when he is fit for 20 games in a row then i think he can have a big impact.

So i'm just gonna sit on the fench. As i think the boy has potential but maybe not the ability to stay clear of injuries.

So i conclude.....James Wesolowski = Darren Anderton's love child....

[Ric Flair]

I suppose the difference between me and some people on here is that sentiment would never come into my team selection. I would have no second thoughts about moving anyone on if it resulted in a better team.

And, although I said clearly that I would keep all three of the young players mentioned and try to get them playing in a better team, I have reservations all round.

However good Wesolowski is - and from what I've seen I'd never rate him above Porter for one minute - he is never fit. I've no idea why he keeps getting these setbacks, I have sympathy personally, but the longer it goes on the harder it will be for him psychologically to recover completely.

And, right now it is too ridiculous for words that a less-than quarter-fit Weso is being picked ahead of a demosntrably fit King - or any other fit player.

Stearman is being moved from pillar to post by a man with no vision but he's had his head turned. He was appalling at the start of the season and even now has allowed Kelly's cautiousness to affect his game and has gone from postiive to negative or neutral in his play.

That wouldn't do for me I'm afraid. He's not helped by having people around him who can't pass, can't keep a move going and can't cover him and I'd rectify that by putting people around him who could do those things. But he'd have to re-focus and become the positive, attacking player I know he can be.

If he's so soft he'd let Kelly change his approach then he'd be too weak-willed for me.

Sheehan's in the last chance saloon and, like Manwell, I don't believe he's ever going to get out. But I would want to play him in a proper football team to find out once and for all whether he is capable of making the contribution I believed he could make.

Ironically, every one of the players you mention has one thing in common. They need to be playing in a football team, not the sort of excuse for a team we've got right now and that's not aimed at any individual because we've a fairly honest bunch of players individually, some of whom took part in the complete destruction of a near-atable topping Shefield United side .

It's about collective flow. I said it wasn't there over a year ago. And it's certainly not there now. Many of our players are underperforming for no other reason than because the balance of the team isn't right. And because our tactics aren't right. And that's down to Kelly.

Fair enough but whenever you talk about players, it's with what you'd do with them and not what our manager will do with them. So the likes of Stearman, who you've listed his faults down to Kelly should surely re-gain their form if you were manager or Kelly was replaced with a more higher calibre of manager.

As for Wesolowski not being better than Porter, we'll have to agree to disagree. I rate Porter, but from what i've seen from both of them at youth, reserve and first team level there's only one winner and he's from a wamrer climate than this country. Technically the best player this club has produced for a long, long while. I'm glad you weren't manager of Liverpool in the late 90's, early 00's as Steven Gerrard would have been bombed out due to his niggling injuries.

[Ric Flair]

Wesolowski will NOT go on to be a big player for this club.

I hope this comes back to haunt you because if it doesn't it will be a crying shame that he wasn't able to fulfill his unreal potential.

[davieG]

I hope this comes back to haunt you because if it doesn't it will be a crying shame that he wasn't able to fulfill his unreal potential.

Maybe the 'this club' carries more significance than it's being given.

[The People's Hero]

I hope this comes back to haunt you because if it doesn't it will be a crying shame that he wasn't able to fulfill his unreal potential.

I hope it does too mate. I really, genuinely double double hope it does because boy does he have talent.

I just feel it's too much... he has both the frequent niggly injuries which prevent players ever being truely fit AND the horrific more serious injuries which can end careers.

It's just my gut feeling and I really do hope I'm wrong on this.

[Ric Flair]

Maybe the 'this club' carries more significance than it's being given.

It's very rare that a player leaves this club and goes on to be a bigger success than they were here. But that's got to change some time hasn't it?

[The People's Hero]

It's very rare that a player leaves this club and goes on to be a bigger success than they were here. But that's got to change some time hasn't it?

Yes.

Having said that, if Weso does get fit, possibility we could do a 'Piper'.

Sell him at a (possibly inflated) transfer fee, hope he passes the medical... and then who knows, he could go on to be a great or he could end up retiring through injury.

[Fox in a Box]

Wesolowski will NOT go on to be a big player for this club.

wrong.....

[Ric Flair]

Yes.

Having said that, if Weso does get fit, possibility we could do a 'Piper'.

Sell him at a (possibly inflated) transfer fee, hope he passes the medical... and then who knows, he could go on to be a great or he could end up retiring through injury.

So do you think he'll never get over his injury problems or you just don't think he's good enough? Or both?

[Thracian]

Fair enough but whenever you talk about players, it's with what you'd do with them and not what our manager will do with them. So the likes of Stearman, who you've listed his faults down to Kelly should surely re-gain their form if you were manager or Kelly was replaced with a more higher calibre of manager.

As for Wesolowski not being better than Porter, we'll have to agree to disagree. I rate Porter, but from what i've seen from both of them at youth, reserve and first team level there's only one winner and he's from a wamrer climate than this country. Technically the best player this club has produced for a long, long while. I'm glad you weren't manager of Liverpool in the late 90's, early 00's as Steven Gerrard would have been bombed out due to his niggling injuries.

We might disagree about Porter and Weso but don't think I'm not a fan of Weso cos I am.

You've mentioned Gerrard and I take note of that but there have been many others who have limped from one injury to another and finally out of the game.

Weso could easily become one of those.

If Leicester choose to stick with him fine but the idea of playing him in the first team before he's fit is just silly. If we had a reserves team of course, he could, when he's ready, play there for six weeks or so away from the tension, the limelight and the expectations.

As it is we need some other solution and it's not with our first team. The bloke will have no chance if he's constantly under maximum pressure while unfit.

[The People's Hero]

So do you think he'll never get over his injury problems or you just don't think he's good enough? Or both?

He's certainly good enough. Even if we do go a bit over the top, considering his age, he's outstanding. He just shows so much fight, maturity and talent, I really do think that if he could stay injury free, he'd be a premiership player in the future and probably a good one at that.

Unfortunately, I just don't think he'll ever REALLY be fit for long periods.

[Ric Flair]

We might disagree about Porter and Weso but don't think I'm not a fan of Weso cos I am.

You've mentioned Gerrard and I take note of that but there have been many others who have limped from one injury to another and finally out of the game.

Weso could easily become one of those.

If Leicester choose to stick with him fine but the idea of playing him in the first team before he's fit is just silly. If we had a reserves team of course, he could, when he's ready, play there for six weeks or so away from the tension, the limelight and the expectations.

As it is we need some other solution and it's not with our first team. The bloke will have no chance if he's constantly under maximum pressure while unfit.

I agree with that most definitely. I wonder whether he's been sent to see a specialist recently, he's had 5-10 seperate injuries in 4 months, eyt none of them have required surgery or massive rehabilitation. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, i'm not sure. The fact he's not needed an operation to correct his injuries this season must mean they aren't nasty injuries, but on the other hand they aren't clearing up and at least when players have operations it usually fixes the problem long term. I just can't quite get my head around how he can continue to pick up knocks almost every game he plays. Are the coaches being too cautious with him and making him rest, leaving him un-fit and at more risk of a serious injury when he does play?. He didn't look like his knock effected him that much on saturday and against QPR although the challenge was bad on him, he still carried on and looked fine.

Strange.

[Manwell Pablo]

The clubs approach towards dealing with his injuries does worry me.