the rebuilding and the 3 year plan

[blue blood]

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Kisnorbo, hume and porter are the only 3 players who i would keep in the starting 11 (from the players ive seen) all players we bring in need to be better than this base line.

I think MM's 3 year is realistically a 5 year plan......discuss

[JoeyB]

What about :

Logan

Stearman

McAuley

and King, Gradel, chambers, Matlock all from the youths?

[The Reverend]

McAuley? Proved himself more than capable.

I actually think hes a better footballer than Kisnorbo.

[Milky]

he's talking about the starting 11

[Fez of Mahrez]

Until we have a decent central midfield we won't know for sure what the current keeper, defenders, wingers and strikers are capable of in my opinion. We need to seize the initiative in the middle of the park. At the moment we are constantly conceding possession, territory, chances and ultimately goals because of our pisspoor central midfielders.

[Joe.]

McAuley is immense. He should be in that team.

Agree though with everything else. Just goes to show how highly we rate our current squad... <_<

[The Reverend]

McAuley? Proved himself more than capable.

I actually think hes a better footballer than Kisnorbo.

As for the 3 year plan i dont know.

I hope we'll be in the prem by the third year and i think we will but you never know in football.

Edit: whoops double post, bloody flood control!

[Joe.]

McAuley? Proved himself more than capable.

I actually think hes a better footballer than Kisnorbo.

As for the 3 year plan i dont know.

I hope we'll be in the prem by the third year and i think we will but you never know in football.

I wouldn't argue with that. McAuley looks more assuring on the ball I think.

[Milky]

Kisnorbo is more physical. Interesting stat for you, Kisnorbo is the most fouled player in the championship.

[blue blood]

remember feel free to discuss!! im looking at if from our next managers point of view.

ok so we got mcauley, kisnorbo, porter and hume with the rebuilding starting in midfield.......

i honestly cant see how we can get rid of and buy 15 odd players and make them gell in 3 years

[Guest Gist]

remember feel free to discuss!! im looking at if from our next managers point of view.

ok so we got mcauley, kisnorbo, porter and hume with the rebuilding starting in midfield.......

i honestly cant see how we can get rid of and buy 15 odd players and make them gell in 3 years

They are the only players I think are worth keeping along with Fryatt he deserves more of a chance when hes fully fit.

[Joe.]

remember feel free to discuss!! im looking at if from our next managers point of view.

ok so we got mcauley, kisnorbo, porter and hume with the rebuilding starting in midfield.......

i honestly cant see how we can get rid of and buy 15 odd players and make them gell in 3 years

Well that's the thing. We won't. The manager isn't going to spot all the deadwood that we think is deadwood. He'll work closer with the players and have his own views.

It's not really as easy as just getting rid of 15 players either. Clubs have to want them. That's going to be hard... <_<

[blue blood]

Well that's the thing. We won't. The manager isn't going to spot all the deadwood that we think is deadwood. He'll work closer with the players and have his own views.

It's not really as easy as just getting rid of 15 players either. Clubs have to want them. That's going to be hard... <_<

and thats what makes me think the 3 year plan is not going to happen.

the 5 players mentioned have aility and brains. they are consistant the rest are not and have had more than enough time to prove their worth.

[The Reverend]

I wouldn't argue with that. McAuley looks more assuring on the ball I think.

Definitely.

In his first few games, he looked to bring the ball out to the midfield and is a good passer. Until Kelly got his hands on him. Now hes a hoofer like the rest.

[Fez of Mahrez]

It's not a case of having to get rid of everyone other than Kisnorbo, McAuley, Porter and Hume. If Mandaric does stick with Kelly then Kelly needs to grow some balls and say to players like Andy Johnson, Stephen Hughes and Matty Fryatt "I'm sorry but we need better than what you have offered us this season if we're going to finish in the top six so you will start the season as backup players".

Again presuming he's still here, the pressure on Kelly is that every single player he brings in this summer has to be a first-choice player if we're going to make the most of this money and finish in the top half next season.

[Geo V]

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Kisnorbo, hume and porter are the only 3 players who i would keep in the starting 11 (from the players ive seen) all players we bring in need to be better than this base line.

I think MM's 3 year is realistically a 5 year plan......discuss

McAuley at CB with Kisnorbo and I`d agree with you but levi would have to continue to improve and add goals to his game.

I`d probably keep Logan, Stearman and Fryatt and possibly Hendo. Im not Nissa`s biggest fan although at times he is quite solid and the likes of AJ, Elvis and Maybury would be the first put on the list.

BTW I disagree with the 5 year plan. 3 years is more than enough time (well its 3 1/2 really isnt it??!) to get out of this division if we have a plan and money. The summer will determine how ambitious MM really is and if we end up with donkeys like Horsfield and Jarrett we will need 10 years to get out of this division.

[escape2victory]

The key to his plan and speed to which its a success depends on the appointment of the next manager. I think Kelly will stay till the end of season and then a new manager will be appointed. This decision will be crucial in the short term success of LCFC. If Mandaric makes the right appointment and we bring in the right types of player then i see no reason why we carnt make the top six next season. He has already stated he hopes we can do it sooner than in the 3 years he had originally said. There will be a big turnover of players and management over the summer and it just depends on the success of these appoitments.

Just for the record the only players i would keep in my first 11 next season would be : Maybury and McAuley.

Kisnorbo we could get decent money for, isnt particulary dominating in the air (a must for this division), and could be easily replaced by someone like Stefanovic.

Porter and Hume are for me just too inconsistant for a team looking to get promoted. I think Porter would benefit from having a more experienced left winger playing ahead of him like Lee Hendrie, so that he doesnt have to play 30+ per season and or have the burden of being our main creator every match. Hume wont score you 20+ goals per season or wont lead the front line so for those reasons I wouldnt have him in my starting 11 next season. Though i still think he could do a decent job on either flank.

[Thracian]

Players to keep would depend on the ability and availability of potential replacements and would need to take account of the need to have solid cover all round which has not been the case so far this season.

For all that I would definitely retain:

McAuley, Hume, Porter, Dodds.

Possibly retain:

Hammond, Fryatt.

Expect progress from three out of:

King, Tejan-Sie, Gradel, Mattock, Odhiambo.

Not a lot is it!.

[volpeazzurro]

The key to his plan and speed to which its a success depends on the appointment of the next manager. I think Kelly will stay till the end of season and then a new manager will be appointed. This decision will be crucial in the short term success of LCFC. If Mandaric makes the right appointment and we bring in the right types of player then i see no reason why we carnt make the top six next season. He has already stated he hopes we can do it sooner than in the 3 years he had originally said. There will be a big turnover of players and management over the summer and it just depends on the success of these appoitments.

Just for the record the only players i would keep in my first 11 next season would be : Maybury and McAuley.

Kisnorbo we could get decent money for, isnt particulary dominating in the air (a must for this division), and could be easily replaced by someone like Stefanovic.

Porter and Hume are for me just too inconsistant for a team looking to get promoted. I think Porter would benefit from having a more experienced left winger playing ahead of him like Lee Hendrie, so that he doesnt have to play 30+ per season and or have the burden of being our main creator every match. Hume wont score you 20+ goals per season or wont lead the front line so for those reasons I wouldnt have him in my starting 11 next season. Though i still think he could do a decent job on either flank.

I don't think finding a decent new manager is as easy as it sounds.

YES we have Mandaric which is excellent news, but £3/4 million, whilst a decent amount of money is hardly Roman Abramovich and it needs to be spent very very wisely if it is to count for anything at all, remember Taylor with £20m? I certainly wouldn't trust Kelly with it! Why would people like Boothroyd and Davies want to come to Leicester, whilst it grieves to say it, they've probably already got better set-ups as player wise they only probably need a bit of tweaking here and there whereas we need wholesale changes, Saturday bears testament to that. Every club coming down will have parachute payments worth more than Mandaric's money and a better squad to start with.

Then there's the perennial ne'er do wells in Robson, Reid and O'Leary etc. We have the no-experience merchants like Redknapp who would 'like a go' but are a big risk, though contacts and 'dad' might help. Or people like Newell and Worthington which REALISTICLY are perhaps all we can attract. Newell is ambitious and perhaps a little unfortunate re the sale of his players, speaking your mind would be a plus point for me. Worthington got Norwich up to the Premiership and they did play some decent stuff at times and where perhaps a little unlucky when they went down. He then had to sell and things went sour. I don't see that a foreigner would be the answrer, Mandaric made a complete balls up with that approach in the past and has to thank 'Harry' for rescuing him.

I'm personally not sure, but would probably plum for Newell. We must stop thinking that we're this huge prospect just because Mandaric is donating 3/4million, it's not going to be that easy. I see a slow rebuild job of at least three years like Mandaric infers with Reading or Wigan being good examples of what can be acheived with the right manager and a bit of patience. Sorry if I seem pessamistic or I'm bursting a few bubbles but I think its a time to get real!

Cheers.

[Master Fox]

Players to keep would depend on the ability and availability of potential replacements and would need to take account of the need to have solid cover all round which has not been the case so far this season.

For all that I would definitely retain:

McAuley, Hume, Porter, Dodds.

Possibly retain:

Hammond, Fryatt.

Expect progress from three out of:

King, Tejan-Sie, Gradel, Mattock, Odhiambo.

Not a lot is it!.

What about Chambers? He wets the lip?

[Thracian]

What about Chambers? He wets the lip?

I've not really wanted to go too deeply into the realms of emerging players. Chambers has been injured for so long its a job to assess how he'll be on his return. But yes, he's a promising talent as are others like McKay and Magunda.

My biggest concern about them all is to see the club to provide a natural pathway for them to first team level which is certainly not there right now.

[Manwell Pablo]

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Kisnorbo, hume and porter are the only 3 players who i would keep in the starting 11 (from the players ive seen) all players we bring in need to be better than this base line.

I think MM's 3 year is realistically a 5 year plan......discuss

Said this ages ago, although I said six

[Master Fox]

I've not really wanted to go too deeply into the realms of emerging players. Chambers has been injured for so long its a job to assess how he'll be on his return. But yes, he's a promising talent as are others like McKay and Magunda.

My biggest concern about them all is to see the club to provide a natural pathway for them to first team level which is certainly not there right now.

A change of management and coaching staff would produce an instant turnaround for youth player’s progression and development into the senior squad

[Thracian]

A change of management and coaching staff would produce an instant turnaround for youth player’s progression and development into the senior squad

I would hope so but some managers are immovable non-believers. They only trust the tried and tested.

Being fair to Kelly - which I don't like because he's never been fair to me as a fan - I think he would have liked to use Wesowski had he been fit and Stearman could have staked his claim had he been better focused at the start of the season and had he played better generally.

But that is no excuse for his treatment of Dodds and his ignoring of Gradel and King given our desperate needs in their department.

[Geo V]

A change of management and coaching staff would produce an instant turnaround for youth player’s progression and development into the senior squad

Just one thing about the academy whom I must be honest I dont go and see play like some on here. That cant be ready for the first team or cant be that good surely??? I know they have done well at that level but many have come through the academy in recent years and none have been stand-out players. You would have thought that the manager would have played them if they were good enough. I cant see what the point is in simply leaving wonderkids in amongst academy football if they are ready for first team action.