QPR Game Player Ratings...

[Wooly]

Goes to show how appauling Sheehan is really, that Clarke is the archetype average run of the mill steady Eddy fullback, yet Alan Sheehan turns out to be such a huge step down. The sooner we get a proper left back and he can fook off to League Two (hopefully with Porter) the better we'll all be.

[breadandcheese]

Fulop - 8 - Saved us from throwing away all 3 points instead of 2. Pulled off some remarkable saves

N'Gotty - 6 - Not a great performance in his distribution, but their left flank never looked like causing us problems. I don't know if he was under instructions not to get forward but he didn't attempt to add to the attack.

Kisnorbo - 7.5 - Looked fairly comfortable most of the game. The QPR strikers were mostly in our pockets for much of the game

McCauley - 7.5 - Same as Kisnorbo. He goes about his job efficinetly with no show-boating.

Sheehan - 5.5 - Last 20 minutes he struggled, with everything QPR created coming down this flank. Ultimately, he cannot only be to blame as I thought the tactics went belly-up. Same thing with N'Gotty re getting forward. I would be interested to know if our tactics were not to commit our fullbacks up the pitch in case of counter attack.

Hume - 6 - He doesn't stop working, which compensates for certain deficiencies in the creative department. However, he is the sort of player we need in that is 100% effort always unsettles defenders.

Clemence - 7 - Him and Weso bossed the midfield. We dominated possesion with the only concern being that we weren't able to put it to great effect. I didn't like the big gap between midfield and the forwards. It needed either him or Weso to push up slightly so there is a better link.

Weso - 6.5 - Same as above really, he just wasn't as good as Clem for me.

Porter - 4 - A poor ineffectual performance. Fair enough he can't beat people, which is a difficult skill, but he was unable to beat the first man or put in a good ball.

Campbell - 6 - Hung off the last defender and got into one or two good positions but he needs to pull the trigger earlier and think about it less. One or two times he took too long and should have had a goal.

Cort - 5.5 - Started well but should have been brought off after the hour. Some of his touched looked very rusty but you could see there are elements there. Hoping he becomes more mobile and active as he improves his fitness.

Subs

Chambers - 5.5 - Didn't offer anything at right wing. Not the substitution I would have made.

Kishishev - 5 - Didn't do anything and like Chambers, invited QPR onto us.

De Vries - not on long enough

Overall - Silly substitutions cost us three points today. There was a big gap between our midfielders and forwards yesterday. Taking off our wingers to bring on defensive players, when our midfield was already fairly deep was tactical suicide. We were lucky in the end to come away with a point. I would also highlight the tactics for our fullbacks who didn't venture forward at all to support the play, even when we were dominating possesion.

[Pete_foxes]

Fulop - 8

N'Gotty - 6

McAuley - 7

Kisnorbo - 8

Sheehan - 6

Hume - 7

Porter - 5

Clem - 7

Weso - 7

Cort - 6

DJ - 6

Fulop definatly kept us in it, some outstanding stops.. N'gotty slugish, slow, gave the ball away too often.. I thought McAuley & Kisnorbo were a fairly solid unit at the back, Hume same old, Weso I thought played ok. The rest fairly average.

[Thracian]

Goes to show how appauling Sheehan is really, that Clarke is the archetype average run of the mill steady Eddy fullback, yet Alan Sheehan turns out to be such a huge step down. The sooner we get a proper left back and he can fook off to League Two (hopefully with Porter) the better we'll all be.

Totaly indefensible remark. But I don't intend to comment on Clarke as a footballer. Most fans rated Sheehan's performance as average yesterday. I thought he had a good game until the last 10 minutes. But while opinions differ City still conceded just one goal, restricted QPR to very few shots and Sheehan's record moved to two wins and three draws in five games this season and five wins, four draws and two defeats overall if memory serves.

The shame yesterday was that he was used almost entirely as an orthodox defender, even taking over as last man centre-back when we had corners and attacking free-kicks. He did some good work. But it was never going to show him at his best and that seems to be a problem with City all round. They don't seem to play to the strengths of individuals but seem to want them all moving around being Jacks of All Trades and masters of none.

[Simon]

Totaly indefensive remark. But I don't intend to comment on Clarke as a footballer. Most fans rated Sheehan's performance as average yesterday. I thought he had a good game until the last 10 minutes. But while opinions differ City still conceded just one goal, restricted QPR to very few shots and Sheehan's record moved to two wins and three draws in five games this season and five wins, four draws and two defeats overall if memory serves.

The shame yesterday was that he was used almost entirely as an orthodox defender, even taking over as last man centre-back when we had corners and attacking free-kicks. He did some good work. But it was never going to show him at his best and that seems to be a problem with City all round. They don't seem to play to the strengths of individuals but seem to want them all moving around being Jacks of All Trades and masters of none.

For once I'll agree with your assessment of Sheehan Thrac- he's not the worlds best header of the ball, and whilst he does need to improve on this, it's just plain stupid having him as last man at corners and free-kicks. And having him swap with Kisnorbo all the time- what was THAT about?

[Thracian]

For once I'll agree with your assessment of Sheehan Thrac- he's not the worlds best header of the ball, and whilst he does need to improve on this, it's just plain stupid having him as last man at corners and free-kicks. And having him swap with Kisnorbo all the time- what was THAT about?

I actually think his heading has improved. He seems much more assured this year than, say, two years ago.

His main problem now is tackling when an opponent takes him onto his right foot.

Apart from perhaps getting a bit tighter, he really needs to work on developing two-footed ability. Others before him have had the same problem but that's irrelevent while he's the man in situ.

Mostly the zonal marking system enables double banking and the weakness is not exposed but it did show the last 10 minutes and it sullied what was otherwise a decent performance.

It is easy to make too much of the lapses cos the same detailed analysis would find all the other defenders made their own share of important mistakes too.

But if Sheehan's wise he'll take note and work hard to eliminate the problem.

He'll also find it less of a hindrance defensively if he doesn't have a booking hanging over his head.

[Simon]

It is easy to make too much of the lapses cos the same detailed analysis would find all the other defenders made their own share of important mistakes too.

But if Sheehan's wise he'll take note and work hard to eliminate the problem.

He'll also find it less of a hindrance defensively if he doesn't have a booking hanging over his head.

I watched Kisnorbo really closely yesterday, and thought he had an absolute stinker- how he's getting 7's on here I'll never know.

And for once I didn't think Sheehan deserved his booking.

[Yaxx]

You are either an abject idiot, have recently suffered from an horrific trauma to the head or do serious drugs. In any event, I suggest you seek medical treatment at the earliest opportunity.

Those ratings are a joke.

Whyso? We were shit. We came very close to losing against a team that will struggle to stay up and we're in our customry 17th place. What's the point in continually looking through rose-tinted glasses?

Cort should never have even started the game - he was clearly not match fit. Surely that must have been apparent during training so why drop De Vries? A pathetic decision. Hume, Clemence, and Weso all had very poor games and this was reflected in my ratings. If they had played so great why did we constantly get overun in midfield and our forwards receive practically no service all game, other than the odd hoof out of defence?

I'm sorry if my dose of realism has upset your sensibilities, but clearly the only joke was our apology of a performance.

[breadandcheese]

Whyso? We were shit. We came very close to losing against a team that will struggle to stay up and we're in our customry 17th place. What's the point in continually looking through rose-tinted glasses?

Cort should never have even started the game - he was clearly not match fit. Surely that must have been apparent during training so why drop De Vries? A pathetic decision. Hume, Clemence, and Weso all had very poor games and this was reflected in my ratings. If they had played so great why did we constantly get overun in midfield and our forwards receive practically no service all game, other than the odd hoof out of defence?

I'm sorry if my dose of realism has upset your sensibilities, but clearly the only joke was our apology of a performance.

I don't think our midfield was overrun. For the majority of the game, we dominated possesion and bossed the game. However, the gap between our midfield unit and our strikers was much too large with no-one running into it. As a result, we struggled to break down QPR at times and our strikers were left fairly isolated.

[Thracian]

I watched Kisnorbo really closely yesterday, and thought he had an absolute stinker- how he's getting 7's on here I'll never know.

And for once I didn't think Sheehan deserved his booking.

Kisnorbo often flatters to deceive because of his all-action style. You never go long in his football life without a last ditch block or a diving header and that is what's remembered just as they loved Tiatto to make a clattering tackle. Steve Walsh was another who faults were forever overlooked because the fans identified with his love of the shirt and unyielding never-say-die attitute.

[Scow]

Fulop - 6

Not troubled for most of the game. However, it was frustrating to see him kick continually towards Campbell. Reminded me of when used to do that with Connolly - wasteful and a bit silly. Hard to say whether Fulop could have done better with the goal without seeing it again. Cracking strike though.

N'Gotty - 6

Defensively solid, a few misplaced passes though.

Kisnorbo - 7

Solid - showed good pace and strength at times.

McAuley - 7

Good positioning and comfortable alongside Kisnorbo.

Sheehan - 5

Caught out a few times defensively. Good use of the ball but never really got in to positions to send many crosses in.

Hume - 6

Worked hard and showed some good touches, but not particularly effective.

Wesolowski - 7

Typically battled away. Some good forward runs from midfield.

Clemence - 7

Assured on the ball as usual.

Porter - 4

Woeful. Lost the ball often and his final ball was generally shite.

Cort - 5

Started off quite well and won a number of headers. Tired towards the end and should have been taken off much earlier. His first touch was a bit of a mixed bag.

Campbell - 5

Not helped by the lack of service. Anonymous for large parts.

Subs:

Not on long enough to make an impression.

[Lovejoy]

Fulop 9

N'Gotty 6

Mcauley 8

Kisnorbo 7

Sheehan 6

Hume 8

Wesolowski 6

Clemence 6

Porter 5

Campbell 6

Cort 6

MoM: Fulop easily

[Simon]

Kisnorbo often flatters to deceive because of his all-action style. You never go long in his football life without a last ditch block or a diving header and that is what's remembered just as they loved Tiatto to make a clattering tackle. Steve Walsh was another who faults were forever overlooked because the fans identified with his love of the shirt and unyielding never-say-die attitute.

It just amazes me that people have quickly forgotten the two instances where he just stood there with his arm in the air, appealing for offside, whilst the attacker waltzed through. One of which led to a goal-scoring opportunity! I think the lad is a decent player for us- but overlooking his faults doesnt do him any favours, cause he'll keep making the same mistakes!

[Jimmy]

It just amazes me that people have quickly forgotten the two instances where he just stood there with his arm in the air, appealing for offside, whilst the attacker waltzed through. One of which led to a goal-scoring opportunity! I think the lad is a decent player for us- but overlooking his faults doesnt do him any favours, cause he'll keep making the same mistakes!

as i said in another thread the manager needs to pick 2 from 3 and have chambers in at right back, and personally Kisnorbo would be the 1 to go, N'Gotty and McAuley are far more composed and better with the ball too

[Bert]

Poter 8? thats just comical, are you taking the pi%$

HaHaHa

Bert are you beng serious matey?

Yes i am.

I thought he played well so i gave my opinion on it, just like you to have along with many others. I didn't mock your opinion on how you thought someone played when my thought was different.

You might think he played shit, which is fair enough, but he sure does try hard and is always looking to attack.

Oh and he's better at foootball than you two as well.

[James.]

Fulop - 7.5

Sheehan - 6

Kisnorbo - 7

Macauley - 7.5

N'Gotty - 6.5

Hume - 7

Clemence - 7

Weso - 6.5

Porter - 6

Cort - 6

Campbell - 6

Subs:

Kishishev - 5

Chambers - 5

De Vries - no time

[Yaxx]

I don't think our midfield was overrun. For the majority of the game, we dominated possesion and bossed the game. However, the gap between our midfield unit and our strikers was much too large with no-one running into it. As a result, we struggled to break down QPR at times and our strikers were left fairly isolated.

Oh please - get real.

[Geo V]

It just amazes me that people have quickly forgotten the two instances where he just stood there with his arm in the air, appealing for offside, whilst the attacker waltzed through. One of which led to a goal-scoring opportunity! I think the lad is a decent player for us- but overlooking his faults doesnt do him any favours, cause he'll keep making the same mistakes!

In Kisnorbo`s defence , he may have still had a bit of jet lag in him as he didnt arrive back from Australia until Friday apparently. Either way, he has been our best defender for over a year now so whilst he may not be the best in the division, he has steadily improved from the defence midfielder that we signed who turned up injured and has gone on to earn International honours as well as apparent interest from clubs like Birmingham.

BTW about mistakes, why do people go on about them like the best defenders in the world dont make them and have to highlight lower league players mistakes?! I see Premiership defenders having stinkers all the time so what do we expect from someone like Kisnorbo?