Daggers Posted 22 September 2007 Author Posted 22 September 2007 also, round here, they drive around like they have shit under their nose and have some sort of authority. had the misfortune to help one out a few weeks ago; ungrateful cow. Sack 'em all. A daft experiment that was a failure before it even started. They may as well just use these inflatable cops in their place.
Master Fox Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 Sack 'em all.A daft experiment that was a failure before it even started. They may as well just use these inflatable cops in their place. I prefer these
stez Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 I prefer these i know what that is before i even click on the link.
Master Fox Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 i know what that is before i even click on the link. I think i may make a purchase...
stez Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 Sack 'em all.A daft experiment that was a failure before it even started. They may as well just use these inflatable cops in their place. the airborne division
stez Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 i know what that is before i even click on the link. I think i may make a purchase... as i suspected................
Master Fox Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 the airborne division Check this one out.....
Rincewind Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 Wouldn't they have radios to call for assistance? There is nothing in the rulles that says they cannot take proficiancy courses in things like first aid. A reason why they are not allowed to do certain things is if anything goes wrong there would be an outcry. For instance if they stopped a dangerous mugger in the street and handed them over to the police the mugger may be set free in the courts because the arrest was not done in the right way. Or a MOtP could be hurt while they were attempting to restrain the mugger. CSO do not have the training that it is required to be a PC. I have seen them going around with regular policeman. I imagine their purpose is to liase between the community and the police.
MPH Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 I have a good friend who is a pollice officer- he told me the CSO's just get in the way, they are useless and annoying. He reckons they are more for the publics benefit - to see a presence on the streets. And as for the drowning... I dont give a crap what training someone has or hasnt had. you bloody well get your backside in that 'pond' and look for the poor kid... Im sure if two cars crashed on the road they were walking down they would approach those cars and offer assistance- I know i sure would and i damn well would if i saw a relatively defenceless kid drowning too... even if they had gone under the water. At worst they are members of the public and if other members of the public can give mouth to mouth and dive in after people have gotten in trouble then so can they. At best, they can call for assistance and THEN get looking for the kid until help arrives......
Daggers Posted 22 September 2007 Author Posted 22 September 2007 Check this one out..... You just love to live it large!
Trumpet Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 I think we've all got a picture of a lad splashing about near the bank whilst two PCSO's stand at the side, not knowing what to do and not caring about it. Why were the kids out if it was dark?
stez Posted 22 September 2007 Posted 22 September 2007 I think we've all got a picture of a lad splashing about near the bank whilst two PCSO's stand at the side, not knowing what to do and not caring about it. Why were the kids out if it was dark? not at all, i heard the 'full' story on five live on friday, and the lad had gone under the water, after two fishermen (who should also have done something) grabbed the boys sister. and i thought, while hearing this, a) why didn't the fishermen do owt and b) the cso's didn't know where he was in this pond/mini lake. but then i heard that the boys step dad came down (ken: after the cso's had radioed in for help) 2 minutes after the cso's had turned up, waded in and pulled the lad out....one of the cso's then pulling off his stab vest (or whatever) and helping pull the boy to the shore and giving cpr. so then i was left thinking 'well if the bos dad could do it why couldn't they? they also stopped one of the boys mates from trying to save him. i was left thinking the same as the boys mother: they weren't trained for that? how much training does it take to be a human?'
Hullfox Posted 23 September 2007 Posted 23 September 2007 I wonder how they'd have felt if it was their kid that PCSO's watched drowning...or any ordinary adults for that matter. I wonder how they would feel if they knew you'd accused them of watching the boy drown. These Hobby Bobbies serve no real purpose for the community. They are a cheap fix to a massive problem that we have. However, these two did not stand by and watch the boy drown.
Micky Ruddle Posted 23 September 2007 Posted 23 September 2007 Apparanently, they hadn't been qualified or something to rescue someone drowning. Political Correctness. Madness. Brainless A ten year old lad drowning and they stood watching. Fook their bosses. Save the kid. Jeez!!! I really do feel for the lad's family. They must be heartbroken.
David O'Leary Posted 23 September 2007 Posted 23 September 2007 Political Correctness it's become a joke now Best wishes to all the family
Jon the Hat Posted 23 September 2007 Posted 23 September 2007 Apparanently, they hadn't been qualified or something to rescue someone drowning.Political Correctness. Madness. Brainless A ten year old lad drowning and they stood watching. Fook their bosses. Save the kid. Jeez!!! I really do feel for the lad's family. They must be heartbroken. Again. When the PCSO's arrived at the scene the boy was not visible. They called for backup and one went to ensure the backup came to the right place. It is easy to say that anyone would or should jump into water to save a kid, but if you don't know where they are or what is in the water, then you put your own life at risk. There are stories in the news fairly regularly of attempted rescues which go wrong. An Fez and Kentfox have said, think about the implications on your family and friends if you died in that water as well.
stez Posted 23 September 2007 Posted 23 September 2007 Again. When the PCSO's arrived at the scene the boy was not visible. They called for backup and one went to ensure the backup came to the right place. It is easy to say that anyone would or should jump into water to save a kid, but if you don't know where they are or what is in the water, then you put your own life at risk. There are stories in the news fairly regularly of attempted rescues which go wrong. An Fez and Kentfox have said, think about the implications on your family and friends if you died in that water as well. but still his step dad found him seconds after arriving? and it takes more than one to direct support to the right place? i'm not pinning all the blame on the cso's (to add 'p' is a bit to grand for them) because the fishermen could, maybe, have done more. but it always comes back to the point that the boys step dad found him as soon as he arrived.
Guest Posted 23 September 2007 Posted 23 September 2007 I blame the blame culture. If they did nothing, they couldn't be sued, however if they had waded in (excuse the pun), they may have left themselves open to litigation.
Daggers Posted 24 September 2007 Author Posted 24 September 2007 Mrs Ganderton, of Bluebell Avenue, Wigan, is disputing the police view that the officers had no idea where Jordon was in the water.She said: "The anglers pointed out to them where Jordon had gone under but they still did nothing to save him. "He could be here today if they had gone in like any member of the public would have done if they had been walking past. "The fishermen told my husband Anthony what they had said to the PCSOs. "These two PCSOs are among the main witnesses to my son's death. I want to know exactly what they did or didn't do at a new inquest." Well, any member of the public that wasn't a fisherman then...
cisono Posted 25 September 2007 Posted 25 September 2007 Sorry, but not jumping in to try and save the lad is pure cowardice in my eyes. That is probably what they thought too before their training Sad eh?
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