WHEN WILL CITY PLAY THE PRINCE OF PERSIA?

[sdb]

And let's say he had to play? What then if he's going to play as he has recently?

And who would he displace?

No, Kaebi has the answer to his predicament in his own hands.

He needs to be 90-minutes fit and he needs to show some form.

he's got to be given a chance. he looked ok against watford didn't he? i dont care if he didn't play well in a reserve game. i'm sure the best players in the world have done the same. his pace alone would cause tiring defenders problems, and some 1st team apps (as a sub) would give him some much needed confidence and fitness.

[sdb]

56 international caps at 22 is admirable, but I think that says more about Asian football then his footballing ability!

true although i wouldn't dismiss them either - they're decent enough. i was also thinking about the fifa 10 to watch thing as well, which could mean nothing of course but must have some substance

[Thracian]

he's got to be given a chance. he looked ok against watford didn't he? i dont care if he didn't play well in a reserve game. i'm sure the best players in the world have done the same. his pace alone would cause tiring defenders problems, and some 1st team apps (as a sub) would give him some much needed confidence and fitness.

What do you mean he looked okay against Watford. He was only on the pitch for 11 minutes plus added time and Watford were already demoralised.

As for his pace I have never seen any defender so emphatically skinned by his winger in two matches as Kaebi against West Brom and Stoke.

As I've said to others. Why don't you watch him first. Then judge.

Cos if anyone else played like Kaebi in recent matches and was then proposed for the first team there'd have been uproar on here.

Give the bloke time.

[Head Honcho]

true although i wouldn't dismiss them either - they're decent enough. i was also thinking about the fifa 10 to watch thing as well, which could mean nothing of course but must have some substance

Wasn't that the same list Fryatt was on?

Again he was chosen not because of his footballing ability but because he is/was one of the best in Asian football.

FIFA for some bizarre reason choose to treat all regions as equals when clearly there are some better then others hence the reason for his inclusion on the list

[Thracian]

he's got to be given a chance. he looked ok against watford didn't he? i dont care if he didn't play well in a reserve game. i'm sure the best players in the world have done the same. his pace alone would cause tiring defenders problems, and some 1st team apps (as a sub) would give him some much needed confidence and fitness.

He keeps getting chances - and blowing them.

Even in attack he's hardly been carving people up.

[Simi]

He keeps getting chances - and blowing them.

Even in attack he's hardly been carving people up.

I think maybe you've mentioned it before Thrac, but maybe being the big international star has got his expectations high and he doesn't take the reserves as seriously as he should.

A player isn't going excel in the reserves, he did nothing wrong when he came on against Watford, so a place in the bench isn't really asking for much is it, especially with some of the people Megson has named on the bench.

[sdb]

He keeps getting chances - and blowing them.

Even in attack he's hardly been carving people up.

What?!?!? No he doesn't!! That's the whole point of this thread! If he was 4 years younger you'd love him. Cheap shot but true i'm afraid.

[Simi]

What?!?!? No he doesn't!! That's the whole point of this thread! If he was 4 years younger you'd love him. Cheap shot but true i'm afraid.

Well technically, he does. Megson obviously wants to make him prove himself in the reserves, so far by the sounds of things, he hasn't done that. Why that is, nobody knows.

[Thracian]

I think maybe you've mentioned it before Thrac, but maybe being the big international star has got his expectations high and he doesn't take the reserves as seriously as he should.

A player isn't going excel in the reserves, he did nothing wrong when he came on against Watford, so a place in the bench isn't really asking for much is it, especially with some of the people Megson has named on the bench.

If I thought that was true I'd acknowledge it. But I think Kaebi has been giving his all. He has busied himself all along the right flank and has realloy tried to fit in with his team-mates.

On the one occasion he got it about right. Little give and goes, clever footwork, always the footballer in defence and never less than willing to tackle.

He just looks so vulnerable too often.

It is considered a cardinal sin to tackle on your backside in English football because a mistake leaves you out of the game. But Kaebi loves to slide tackle and, unfortunately, he sometimes misses, leaving his team-mates exposed or he gives away a silly free kick.

His positional sense is too often questionable and he seems espcecially weak when being run at. Add in his lack of inches at the far post defensively and, to my mind, without much improvement, you've got a recipe for potential disaster.

In my view he'll need several weeks schooling in the ways of English football before it is fair to expose him to Championship football. For his sake as well as ours.

I know that several FoxesTalk members have watched Kaebi in the reserves and, in some ways, I wish they'd come own and refute what I'm saying. Explain that I'm exaggerating. Worrying about nothing.

But it all seems unnaturally quiet. Not least because I imagine some of those people, like me, hoped and expected Kaebi would be in the first team and they don't really want to say anything against that.

As I read it they'd rather say nothing for now and wait for a better chance to press his claims for promotion.

One good game and the calls will be renewed in strength. But it won't suddenly make Kaebi the player we've all hoped for. Cos we're talking some fundamentals here that won't be learned overnight.

As I say, he needs proper time to acclimatise, proper time to learn about English football and time to build his confidence among new colleagues.

[Koke]

I think the lad will come good eventually. How many foreigners have we seen struggle to come to terms with the type of football we play in this country. Hossein is no different and he needs time to adapt. He might have played poorly against West Brom and Stoke reserves, but ultimately I believe he'll feature in our first team. And add that to teh fact that winter is around the corner and he also needs to adapt to the cold rainy abysmal weather we have here in England.

Give him time. And when I say time I mean several months.

[Thracian]

What?!?!? No he doesn't!! That's the whole point of this thread! If he was 4 years younger you'd love him. Cheap shot but true i'm afraid.

Except that it isn't true. Read some of my early comments on the guy or my summary of the good game he played. I was as hopeful as you are.

Are you saying therefore that I don't like Fulop, Clemence, N'Gotty or Kishishev because of their age?

I might have criticised most of them on rare occasions but I've praised them far more times and think all four have basically been excellent signings.

So your comment isn't just a cheap shot. It's total nonsense. And Kaebi isn't old in footballing terms anyway.

[Thracian]

I think the lad will come good eventually. How many foreigners have we seen struggle to come to terms with the type of football we play in this country. Hossein is no different and he needs time to adapt. He might have played poorly against West Brom and Stoke reserves, but ultimately I believe he'll feature in our first team. And add that to teh fact that winter is around the corner and he also needs to adapt to the cold rainy abysmal weather we have here in England.

Give him time. And when I say time I mean several months.

Absolutely. And I hope you're right. Djeziri, Ferreira and Hellings have been no different really.

[Ultra]

Time is what he isn't going to get - certainly not under the current manager who has apparently already noted his defensive frailties.

Kaebi is clearly a despondent young man. The best thing to be said about the interview is that at least it was given to the Mockery instead of to some paper back in Iran who could have twisted it to make it look even worse.

As his struggles in recent weeks illustrate, he's an innocent casualty of the turmoil that afflicted our club in the early weeks of the season.

It's probably no longer a case of whether he'll leave us, but when.

[Rich Fox]

Alan birchenall says on the moan in that he plays a game and then hes injured and is not up to the physical side of our game. He does seem to be getting pissed of and will not be long before he tells us to stuff it if hes not given a chance.

We are crying out for wingers with pace playing 3 5 2 system otherwise its just too defensive.

We should not go down the road of get promotion at all costs and play boring long ball football because we wouldnt last in the prem doing this anyway.

He should be at leaston the bench if hes fit enough.

[Geo V]

I sound like a scratched record on the subject but to me its simple.

You sign an International player with 50 caps, you play him. You only drop him if he isn't performing and don't play all sorts of players at right-mid and right-back ahead of him.

If people are suggesting that a club like ours who almost got relegated last season and the season before all of a sudden buys International class players with so called quality and sling them in the reserves to harm there confidence and make them have to prove themselves in front of one man and his dog, then the game has gone mad.

[Mikey]

I say play him. At least on the bench. Skill, pace and determination. Just what we want in a 5-3-2 formation.

[Geo V]

Kaebi Woooahhh

Kaebi Woooahhh

He only eats halal

He's friends with Idan Tal.

DO IT.

Kaebi Woooahhh

Kaebi Woooahhh

He once dated Pahars

But married Ben Sahar

[Thracian]

I sound like a scratched record on the subject but to me its simple.

You sign an International player with 50 caps, you play him. You only drop him if he isn't performing and don't play all sorts of players at right-mid and right-back ahead of him.

If people are suggesting that a club like ours who almost got relegated last season and the season before all of a sudden buys International class players with so called quality and sling them in the reserves to harm there confidence and make them have to prove themselves in front of one man and his dog, then the game has gone mad.

He isn't performing - so you've answered your own question.

Are you seriously suggesting that if he's exposed dramatically by reserve team wingers that he won't have a prblem in the Championship.

As for the idea of protecting him from having to play alongside different team-mates that's yet another reason he should be given more time - to get him used to playing in different situations and with different players around him.

I've never known so many lame and illogical reasons for someone manipulating a first team place for someone.

And if you're saying playing in the reserves has harmed Kaebi's confidence then that's another reason he's not ready for the first team.

People have long had to fight to get into a first team and Kaebi is no different. When he's ready - if ever - then his performances will show it.

[Tevez]

Fcukin Hell if Kaebi aint playing for Leicester, he might aswell come down and play for our 6-a-side team.

[Trumpet]

And let's say he had to play? What then if he's going to play as he has recently?

And who would he displace?

No, Kaebi has the answer to his predicament in his own hands.

He needs to be 90-minutes fit and he needs to show some form.

He. Has. Not. Played.

Reserves are not a way to give a player a chance. He's been injured oo.

Give him a go in the first team, if it don't work, which from clips we've saw of him AND when he came on against Watford, i believe it would work - then write him off, after a PROPER chance.

It's like when we signed Elvis, we knew his record but because he was from Fulham, we thought he might bew decent, we lived in hope. He justified his record and was shit.

This lad has a good record, with his caps AND playing in the last world cup. That must warrant knocking the likes of Newton + Stearman out the team straight away, surely.

I reckon it's because of the language problem as to why Allen and now Megson seem reluctant to play him.

[Thracian]

Fcukin Hell if Kaebi aint playing for Leicester, he might aswell come down and play for our 6-a-side team.

You short then?

[Trumpet]

He isn't performing - so you've answered your own question.

Are you seriously suggesting that if he's exposed dramatically by reserve team wingers that he won't have a prblem in the Championship.

As for the idea of protecting him from having to play alongside different team-mates that's yet another reason he should be given more time - to get him used to playing in different situations and with different players around him.

I've never known so many lame and illogical reasons for someone manipulating a first team place for someone.

And if you're saying playing in the reserves has harmed Kaebi's confidence then that's another reason he's not ready for the first team.

People have long had to fight to get into a first team and Kaebi is no different. When he's ready - if ever - then his performances will show it.

I can't stress enoyugh the fact that He. Has. Not. Played. Apart. From. The. Last. 15. Minutes. Against. Watford!!!!

2nd point - People like De Vries and Elvis have had to fight to get in, or some of the younger, unproven lads. Clemence had a good CV and he was straight in the mix, surely Kaebi's CV wasn't too bad?

[Thracian]

I can't stress enoyugh the fact that He. Has. Not. Played. Apart. From. The. Last. 15. Minutes. Against. Watford!!!!

Plus four reserve games!!!!!!!!!!!

[Trumpet]

Plus four reserve games!!!!!!!!!!!

Reserve games.

[Thracian]

Reserve games.

Fryatt played in reserve games, looked good, won his first team place back.

Stearman played in reserve games, looked good, ditto.

Newton played in the reserves, scored two goals, back in first team squad.

Porter's played reserve games, one ordinary, one better, still waiting to win his place back.

Cort played reserve games, did okay, back into first team squad.

Etc, etc, etc.

If Kaebi was ready for our first team he'd play reserves football comfortably.

He's not done that.