WHEN WILL CITY PLAY THE PRINCE OF PERSIA?

[Thracian]

Basically from what I can make of it, Megsons going to play him in a attacking central role like he was playing at Perspolis. One day, could be awhile though.

Smart thing to do I say I've said several times play him there. We have a right back and a the very basic Andy King there at the moment, fair enough neither are doing anything wrong but neither is standing out.

If it's true it will give us good competition for places, what we should have in a squad this size!

You may be right about Kaebi and he may do okay in such a role - it remains to be seen.

But I don't think your veiled criticism of King is a way of justifying it.

Unlike Kaebi, King made reserves football look a piece of cake.

As for his first team performances I spoke to a club official on Saturday and he said King has clearly been under instructions to just keep it simple and he thought it was the right way for Megson to bring him into the side.

King would never catch the eye in such a role, or anyone else. But anyone thinking that's the extent of King's abilities is mistaken and unlike you, City staff are absolutely delighted with the way he's played.

As it happens though, there's every indication that King will be used in the holding role allowing Clemence and Wesolowski to be more attacking.

Kaebi might have to compete with those two and Porter for that central attacking role you mentioned - and probably off the bench at that.

Porter played central midfield at Stoke and did well generally without showing the creativity he has when at his best.

Kaebi has the skill for the position but his covering when he's lost the ball and his lack of real strength and durability make me extremely doubtful that he would see off the competition.

Either from Clemence, Weso, Porter or from any new signing Megson has in mind.

I'd believe in fairies if he ever took King's place.

[Ric Flair]

What do you mean he looked okay against Watford. He was only on the pitch for 11 minutes plus added time and Watford were already demoralised.

As for his pace I have never seen any defender so emphatically skinned by his winger in two matches as Kaebi against West Brom and Stoke.

As I've said to others. Why don't you watch him first. Then judge.

Cos if anyone else played like Kaebi in recent matches and was then proposed for the first team there'd have been uproar on here.

Give the bloke time.

Had Porter, Hammond or King come on and took the throw-in to de Vries when he turned and scored, you'd of been milking it to high heaven on here.

I don't really want to burst anyone's bubble here, and it pains me somewhat to say this, but i have to say i agree with some of what Thracian has said about Kaebi. I've seen the lad play a few times for the reserves, and he just doesn't exactly fill me with complete confidence in a defensive capacity.

I'll start with the good news before the bad. I've enjoyed his performances on the whole for a few reasons. He has that well documented pace, which i wish he'd use a bit more by the way cus he seems a bit reluctant to really stretch his legs down the flank. He has a really nice touch, likes to keep close control of the ball, and is a fan of the odd bit of skill, with variations of the Cruyff turn and little flicks inside being his weapons of choice.

He also more often than not finds his man with a pass, and seems to like to keep things simple. Unfortunately he doesn't really seem to let rip in a youtube clip stylie and rampage down the flank, but perhaps he doesn't feel he has the license to do that at the moment. The good thing is, if he wanted to do that, i've seen enough in his locker to pull it off. You can't question the lads natural footballing ability, because he does have that touch of class about him.

Now the bad news, and what must surely be the reason why we haven't seem him in action for the first team. Defensively he seems a bit dodgey. Whenever a man comes to take him on, he does this strange thing where he squares up, and in a tentative fashion, just sticks one foot in almost as a token gesture and the attacker easily takes it past him. I thought he'd be a tough tackler, but he seems very tentative in such a situation. At times when he squares himself up like that it almost looks like he's never been taught how to defend!

Also, the offside trap seems a problem. He often finds himself behind the back line and playing people onside. Positioning has been a problem for him, because added to that, whenever he does venture up the pitch slightly, he doesn't exactly get back in a hurry, and the right side can often become very exposed. I've mention the tentative tackling, but he also opts for the other extreme on occasions and recklessly dives in.

Let's just say tackling isn't his strong point, which is a worry if we're going to play him in a defensive position. From what i've seen, right midfield would be my chosen position, but with the curent formation this is out of the question. I have to ask therefore whether i'd play him at wing back. If it was a defensive wing back role, i'd tell the three centre backs to get ready to cover! He needs a license to play at bit further upfield, because as i've said before, he prefers to attack, and defends because he has to!

Sorry that's a bit long, and to be fair you probably can't be arsed to read it and i don't blame you, but that's just my honest opinion of the player purely from the few reserve games i've seen. I still really like Kaebi, in fact he's one of my favourite players mainly because he has that touch of class about him, and has made watching the reserve games more enjoyable.

I just wanted to add a little note of caution though, as I'm worried people are hyped up and expecting some world beater. The good thing is that defensive stuff can be worked on in training, and if that aspect of his game improves to go alongside his ability, i'm still confident he can be an asset for this club.

Fair assessment. Kaebi was always going to struggle at right back here, I don't think he's impressed that much at right back for Iran. He's always been more useful and dangerous either playing at wing-back with some cover, right wing or behind the strikers. If we are to play 5-3-2, then I think he'd be better off as a central midfielder, where there's plenty of cover for him to run riot. His pace and skill is there to see. I've watched some of the reserve games this season (about 3 of them so far) and recently he's gone off the boil at right back. But a month or so ago, I forget the opposition, he tore it up. He was taking players on left, right and centre. Neglecting his defensive duties but running amok when he got the ball. Signs of an attacking midfielder, not a defender.

50 caps, or whatever. He deserves a chance, we lack creativity. Get him on the bench instead of Darren Fookin Kenton or any of the other goobers who manage to get a spot on our bench.

[Manwell Pablo]

You may be right about Kaebi and he may do okay in such a role - it remains to be seen.

But I don't think your veiled criticism of King is a way of justifying it.

Unlike Kaebi, King made reserves football look a piece of cake.

As for his first team performances I spoke to a club official on Saturday and he said King has clearly been under instructions to just keep it simple and he thought it was the right way for Megson to bring him into the side.

King would never catch the eye in such a role, or anyone else. But anyone thinking that's the extent of King's abilities is mistaken and unlike you, City staff are absolutely delighted with the way he's played.

As it happens though, there's every indication that King will be used in the holding role allowing Clemence and Wesolowski to be more attacking.

Kaebi might have to compete with those two and Porter for that central attacking role you mentioned - and probably off the bench at that.

Porter played central midfield at Stoke and did well generally without showing the creativity he has when at his best.

Kaebi has the skill for the position but his covering when he's lost the ball and his lack of real strength and durability make me extremely doubtful that he would see off the competition.

Either from Clemence, Weso, Porter or from any new signing Megson has in mind.

I'd believe in fairies if he ever took King's place.

He's been told to play basically and he hasn't stood out, if you tell me I'm wrong your lying or haven't seen him play for the first team.

[Master Fox]

"-Kaebi's new position to avoid transfer from Leicester City

To avoid selling newly signed Hossein Kaebi from Leicester City, Leicester coach intends to use Kaebi in a different position on the pitch. Hossein Kaebi, who was signed by Leicester City on July 5th, spent most of his time on bench after Martin Allen's dismissal from the club soon after Kaebi's arrival at the club. Leicester's new coach, is currently using an English player in position of Kaebi, who in fact has showed great fitness, and that had lead to Kaebi's bench warming.

With Kaebi's time on bench, there were rumours of being transferred to another English team, but Milan Mandaric, Leicester City's Managing Director, expressed his support for Kaebi and indicated they have no intention of selling Kaebi. Therefore, after Leicester's win over Coventry last week, Leicester's coach,Gary Megson, used Kaebi in a new position in team trainings, further up in the right wing and the same position he was playing in Perspolis.

After meeting with Club Managing Director, Gary Megson, announced that if Kaebi can show his strength in this new position, he will play him in future games for Leicester City.

"

Source: www.iransportspress.com

Considering we have the best defensive record in the league it would seem pretty stupid to change what we’ve got. This is why I think this report is very credible. Our problem is we don’t score enough goals and don’t create enough chances.

If Kaebi can offer us something more going forward then he’ll break into the first team, if doesn’t then he days here will be numbered unfortunately.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Kaebi might have to compete with those two and Porter for that central attacking role you mentioned - and probably off the bench at that.

Porter played central midfield at Stoke and did well generally without showing the creativity he has when at his best.

Kaebi has the skill for the position but his covering when he's lost the ball and his lack of real strength and durability make me extremely doubtful that he would see off the competition.

:laugh:

I'm sorry Mr Kaebi but we're not interested in your 50 international caps or lightning pace, we've got this extremely average dwarf who we think is far stronger, more durable and better at covering than you, now take your vast experience as a wing-back for your country and be off with you!

[Ric Flair]

What are the houses like on Upperton Road, aren't they absolute shit holes? Nice to see Mandaric is looking after Hossein with a luxury gaff.

Or are those penthouses looking across the river classed as 'Off Upperton Road' ??

[Fez of Mahrez]

What are the houses like on Upperton Road, aren't they absolute shit holes? Nice to see Mandaric is looking after Hossein with a luxury gaff.

Or are those penthouses looking across the river classed as 'Off Upperton Road' ??

I bet Allen stuck him above a kebab shop.

[Dames]

1 minute more than the 10 minutes of "havoc" Hammond caused against West Brom reserves you mean?

lol

I don't usually bash Thracian but he's avoided that little gem.

[Fez of Mahrez]

1 minute more than the 10 minutes of "havoc" Hammond caused against West Brom reserves you mean?

I'd missed this too. Beautiful.

[Raj]

What are the houses like on Upperton Road, aren't they absolute shit holes? Nice to see Mandaric is looking after Hossein with a luxury gaff.

Or are those penthouses looking across the river classed as 'Off Upperton Road' ??

Me thinks the later applies!!!

[Thracian]

lol

I don't usually bash Thracian but he's avoided that little gem.

Hammond caused almost as much trouble in that 10 minutes than Kaebi has managed in his time at City so far.

If I had to choose between the two for a team of mine right now - assuming both were fit - then it would be no contest. I'd have Hammond any time.

Hammond has always looked dangerous when he's played for the Reserves - in fact he's put the ball in the net every time I've seen him including that 10 minute cameo you mentioned.

I also think he's been far better in the first team than people have ever given him credit for.

Not that I don't think the bloke is a lost cause as far as City is concerned - and being injured so much hasn't helped him.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Hammond caused almost as much trouble in that 10 minutes than Kaebi has managed in his time at City so far.

If I had to choose between the two for a team of mine right now - assuming both were fit - then it would be no contest. I'd have Hammond any time.

Hammond has always looked dangerous when he's played for the Reserves - in fact he's put the ball in the net every time I've seen him including that 10 minute cameo you mentioned.

I also think he's been far better in the first team than people have ever given him credit for.

At least this is one player you can't moan at anyone for not having seen, we've all seen more than enough of this donkey.

I actually think you're insulting the entire nation of Iran to suggest that one of their most talented young internationals is worse than Levi Porter and Elvis f**king Hammond.

[Ric Flair]

Hammond caused almost as much trouble in that 10 minutes than Kaebi has managed in his time at City so far.

If I had to choose between the two for a team of mine right now - assuming both were fit - then it would be no contest. I'd have Hammond any time.

Hammond has always looked dangerous when he's played for the Reserves - in fact he's put the ball in the net every time I've seen him including that 10 minute cameo you mentioned.

I also think he's been far better in the first team than people have ever given him credit for.

Not that I don't think the bloke is a lost cause as far as City is concerned - and being injured so much hasn't helped him.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Back to your best again, Thracian.

[Manwell Pablo]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Back to your best again, Thracian.

I reckon he's not in to football at all, he just likes arguing, if we all ignore him he might pack it in.

[Thracian]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Back to your best again, Thracian.

If you'd prefer to pick Kaebi that's your choice.

[Master Fox]

At least this is one player you can't moan at anyone for not having seen, we've all seen more than enough of this donkey.

I actually think you're insulting the entire nation of Iran to suggest that one of their most talented young internationals is worse than Levi Porter and Elvis f**king Hammond.

In other news…..

Local Leicestershire man Thracian today caused huge civil unrest amongst Iranian citizens by comparing the worst football player in the history of the English game (Elvis Hammond) to their world cup hero Hussein Kaebi. Local militant groups burned effigies of Thracian throughout the region demanding he be removed from posting further drivel on Foxestalk. Local residents of Leicester and other Foxetalk posters also vented their anger towards Thracian in demonstrations supporting the Iranians views about him.

[Raj]

In other news…..

Local Leicestershire man Thracian today caused huge civil unrest amongst Iranian citizens by comparing the worst football player in the history of the English game (Elvis Hammond) to their world cup hero Hussein Kaebi. Local militant groups burned effigies of Thracian throughout the region demanding he be removed from posting further drivel on Foxestalk. Local residents of Leicester and other Foxetalk posters also vented their anger towards Thracian in demonstrations supporting the Iranians views about him.

[Thracian]

I reckon he's not in to football at all, he just likes arguing, if we all ignore him he might pack it in.

You and I will never agree on footballers, that's for sure.

You don't rate Sheehan, you don't rate King but you seem quite sure Kaebi's a better bet than Hammond.

In some ways I wish City would pick Kaebi - perhaps in the Cup game against Chelsea - just to give some of you chance to make a realistic assessment.

Not that it would make a difference.

I think minds are made up whatever.

[Dames]

Kaebi would not have over 50 caps if he was shit cmon.

You could excuse it if it was 5 or 6 but when its 50 you know he's got to be half decent.

Porter has no caps and he's only a year younger ?

Hammond has 1 cap for Ghana and thats only because they was playing at the Walkers and wanted to attract some fans. Notice how he hasn't been picked since.

You moaned about Kelly and other managers having chosen men but that is because your own chosen men wern't getting in the team and are probably not good enough.

To be honest most of your chosen men are quite frankly terrible with the exception of Andy King who hasn't had the chance to flop or shine yet.

Its about time you stopped championing these talentless lazy no-hopers.

[Ric Flair]

If you'd prefer to pick Kaebi that's your choice.

Well that's a good question. Would I rather have Kaebi up front than Hammond or would I rather have Hammond in at right back instead Kaebi? Probably neither in either position!

[Manwell Pablo]

You and I will never agree on footballers, that's for sure.

You don't rate Sheehan, you don't rate King but you seem quite sure Kaebi's a better bet than Hammond.

In some ways I wish City would pick Kaebi - perhaps in the Cup game against Chelsea - just to give some of you chance to make a realistic assessment.

Not that it would make a difference.

I think minds are made up whatever.

Sheehans rubbish.

King could be a tidy little player but he's being told to keep things basic at the moment, he's seems to be seen as someone to fill in while we're short on numbers. I'll give him credit his doing whats he's told at least but if he played with more adventure he could really impress.

Kaebi is a much better player than Hammond, and player who is quicker than Elvis Hammond must by default, be better than him.

[Thracian]

Kaebi would not have over 50 caps if he was shit cmon.

You could excuse it if it was 5 or 6 but when its 50 you know he's got to be half decent.

Porter has no caps and he's only a year younger ?

Hammond has 1 cap for Ghana and thats only because they was playing at the Walkers and wanted to attract some fans. Notice how he hasn't been picked since.

You moaned about Kelly and other managers having chosen men but that is because your own chosen men wern't getting in the team and are probably not good enough.

To be honest most of your chosen men are quite frankly terrible with the exception of Andy King who hasn't had the chance to flop or shine yet.

Its about time you stopped championing these talentless lazy no-hopers.

I wouldn't care if Kaebi had 150 caps. On what I've seen there is no way he's as good as Hammond in English football.

As for my Chosen Men Sheehan has had a hand in five goals this season - and it should have been more. Nils didn't manage that in his entire career here, nor any other player in that position over the last three years. And our defence has stayed as tight as with anyone else.

Wesolowski's maintained his promise when some wanted to give up on him after his second broken leg and has been our best midfielder this season, Stearman has had a decent season, King you've mentioned and Porter has been injured most of the time having played a perfectly acceptable 30-odd games in his first season.

Gradel and Odhiambo seem to be doing extremely well or moderately well out on loan and the "arguably best team" which I've said Megson seems to be picking now is not losing many at all with people I like such as Fulop, N'Gotty, Clemence, Mattock.

So who are these "terrible" Chosen Men you mention?

[Dames]

So who are these "terrible" Chosen Men you mention?

Porter, Sheehan, Dodds, Hammond.

Porter only managed so many games last year because Rob Kelly was too dumb to get a proper left mid and stuck Levi there all season, Besides a decent start he's been lazy and terrible ever since.

Stats don't cover up for Sheehans defensive frailities, I'd expect someone to get a fair amount of goals and assists if they are taking set peices its standard stuff Thracian, nothing out of the ordinary. Taking a decent set peice doesn't justify his position as left back where he has trouble doing basic defenders stuff.

Dodds is currently on the bench of a team second bottom of league 2, says enough about his so called talent and natural ability.

Hammond is quite frankly terrible, He doesn't score enough goals for a striker, he doesn't have the touch, the brain, the finishing ability or any skill that resembles a professional football besides the fact that he bombs around like a madman and yes that does make defenders feel uneasy because 1/10 he might be onside, what they don't know is once he is he doesn't know what to do next.

[Thracian]

Porter, Sheehan, Dodds, Hammond.

Porter only managed so many games last year because Rob Kelly was too dumb to get a proper left mid and stuck Levi there all season, Besides a decent start he's been lazy and terrible ever since.

Stats don't cover up for Sheehans defensive frailities, I'd expect someone to get a fair amount of goals and assists if they are taking set peices its standard stuff Thracian, nothing out of the ordinary. Taking a decent set peice doesn't justify his position as left back where he has trouble doing basic defenders stuff.

Dodds is currently on the bench of a team second bottom of league 2, says enough about his so called talent and natural ability.

Hammond is quite frankly terrible, He doesn't score enough goals for a striker, he doesn't have the touch, the brain, the finishing ability or any skill that resembles a professional football besides the fact that he bombs around like a madman and yes that does make defenders feel uneasy because 1/10 he might be onside, what they don't know is once he is he doesn't know what to do next.

In the context of Leicester City at this time if you think Porter, Sheehan, Dodds, and Hammond are "terrible" players we'll just agree to disagree.

[Manwell Pablo]

Tbh, I think the only one any of us are calling terrible is Hammond. Which he is, appaulingly bad.