Collins John

[Strokes]

Not a great start, but did no worse than fryatt or DJ before him.

[Babylon]

Yeah lets blame the fans, i don't blame them no more. We have had the worst 4-5 years and people are fed up. I know we need to give people a chance but people are use to crap now.

I'm sorry but that's a lame excuse, our fans have been like this for more than 3/4 years. Any player who doesn't look a world beater with their first touch, or a manager that doesn't win every game 4-0 and play like Brazil gets turned on instantly. Christ can't you remember the flack O'Neil got. It's getting worse than it was back then, mainly down to the internet with you all whipping each other up into a storm over one thing or another.

No settling in period, no getting use to people, places, the way things work... they aren't afforded any of it. It is truly pathetic and one of the reasons I just can't handle coming on these boards any more. I stumble back every now and then only to be reminded instantly of why I went away.

[Zingari]

I'm sorry but that's a lame excuse, our fans have been like this for more than 3/4 years. Any player who doesn't look a world beater with their first touch, or a manager that doesn't win every game 4-0 and play like Brazil gets turned on instantly. Christ can't you remember the flack O'Neil got. It's getting worse than it was back then, mainly down to the internet with you all whipping each other up into a storm over one thing or another.

No settling in period, no getting use to people, places, the way things work... they aren't afforded any of it. It is truly pathetic and one of the reasons I just can't handle coming on these boards any more. I stumble back every now and then only to be reminded instantly of why I went away.

in your own words "Sod all that, what about a manager who can win a game or two!!!"

[Dr The Singh]

why only have a go at the Collins John, they was alot worse tripe on the pitch then him, pick on them, and the manager!!!

[Babylon]

in your own words "Sod all that, what about a manager who can win a game or two!!!"

The point being it shouldn't matter if there is no passion, the manager doesn't want to be here, we are playing lovely football... unless we are winning games on a regular basis people are going to be calling for peoples heads end of story.

I'll always give a manager time no matter what, it's my belief things take more than 8/9 games to click. That's never going to change if someone is boring, ginger and plays 10 behind the ball.