Holloway the right man for the job?

[Babylon]

losing the argument are we wet pants?

Losing the argument??? There isn't even an argument to be had as he shouldn't go anywhere and won't go anywhere. End of story, so jog on.

[WetFlannel]

losing the argument are we wet pants?

Ok this from my point of view has got beyond belief...

Why should we sack Ollie? Ipswich away, Southampton home and West Brom home are not easy games, especially for your first few matches... He has also been experimetning within these games, and switching players around, giving numerous players a chance. But most of all, what i cant stand is how people were constantly screaming out for Kaebi to play and once he plays he gets 0's. WHAT A JOKE. Ollie has also had referees to contend with, stupid decisions going against us that shouldnt have, and now people are saying how hes blaming him. Everyone was annoyed with the decisions and people on here were blaming, but Ollies not allowed is he? Injuries to key players aswell... John, Campbell, Fryatt suspended, blah blah blah... He is the manager of Leicester City football club, and most people on here want to see him fail. I'll be supporting Ollie, whether you do or dont is down to your own decision, but what is the point in SUPPORTING leicester city football club if your not going to support the people surrounding it.

so your also to ignorant to look at my previous post, if your that keen on roeder and warnock go support norwich and palace, so what with that post do you disagree with?

[Ultra]

A lot of the pro-Holloway comments on this thread are from folk who were clearly not at Hull yesterday. Therefore they are not in a position to say who is and who isn't a true City fan.

If anything, though, his problems have arisen from misplaced loyalty to players whose ineptitude, laziness and general bad attitude have seen off FIVE managers in the past two years and give every impression they'd be happy to see him become number six.

Contrary to what our chairman may tell us, these overpaid parasites are the real "poison" at our club. Unless they are removed, we face the real prospect of League One football. It's as simple as that.

Holloway is actually in a very strong position. Our present predicament means he can demand that the chairman provides the finance to rebuild the squad on his terms. And Mandaric would have to comply, or face the prospect of his THIRD search of the season for a new manager - which in all probability would be terminal for our season and perhaps even for the club. Meanwhile Holloway could walk away knowing that he could get by on his media work until a new job came his way.

If buyers cannot be found for these wasters (as proved to be the case when Martin Allen attempted a more modest clearout in the summer), then Mandaric may have to pay their contracts up. But this is not exactly an area in which he lacks experience or expertise, is it?

[filbertstreetboy]

jog on?haha think someone has been watching a bit too much football factory.either 14 or a complete ****

[WetFlannel]

jog on?haha think someone has been watching a bit too much football factory.either 14 or a complete ****

fair enough... im a complete **** but im still backing Ollie, i cant be bothered to argue anymore so cheerio...

[filbertstreetboy]

my last post was aimed at babylon,i respect your views on leicester but we have a different opion on holloway

[WetFlannel]

my last post was aimed at babylon,i respect your views on leicester but we have a different opion on holloway

oh apologies then, i guess we will have to agree to disagree

[pauliepaul]

What Does FAO Mean?

This just about sums it up really hahaha

[breadandcheese]

If anything, though, his problems have arisen from misplaced loyalty to players whose ineptitude, laziness and general bad attitude have seen off FIVE managers in the past two years and give every impression they'd be happy to see him become number six.

To be fair to Holloway, he said he would give every player a chance when he came in and he has/is doing exactly that before the transfer window opens. He hasn't had the benefit of experience that we've had with the current squad to judge which players to rely upon, but he'll sure know now after the last few games.

I think right now, we have to back the manager come what may. We don't have much of a choice because as you say, another change of manager would be terminal to our season. I don't think Holloway is a bad manager, he's shown he has the ability to create a good team as he did at Plymouth, so let's see what happens when the transfer window opens.

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

I will say definately not,hes doing a very poor job and his selections and tactics are very poor!

Looks like we are stuck with another deadwood manager on a long contract!

Do us all a favour and go eat a hemorrhoid.

[Nationwider]

Holloway is actually in a very strong position. Our present predicament means he can demand that the chairman provides the finance to rebuild the squad on his terms. And Mandaric would have to comply, or face the prospect of his THIRD search of the season for a new manager - which in all probability would be terminal for our season and perhaps even for the club. Meanwhile Holloway could walk away knowing that he could get by on his media work until a new job came his way.

If buyers cannot be found for these wasters (as proved to be the case when Martin Allen attempted a more modest clearout in the summer), then Mandaric may have to pay their contracts up. But this is not exactly an area in which he lacks experience or expertise, is it?

Hopefully there's money available for this scenario - as there isn't another option. And there isn't the time for another manager search before the end of January.

[The Reverend]

A lot of the pro-Holloway comments on this thread are from folk who were clearly not at Hull yesterday. Therefore they are not in a position to say who is and who isn't a true City fan.

If anything, though, his problems have arisen from misplaced loyalty to players whose ineptitude, laziness and general bad attitude have seen off FIVE managers in the past two years and give every impression they'd be happy to see him become number six.

Contrary to what our chairman may tell us, these overpaid parasites are the real "poison" at our club. Unless they are removed, we face the real prospect of League One football. It's as simple as that.

Holloway is actually in a very strong position. Our present predicament means he can demand that the chairman provides the finance to rebuild the squad on his terms. And Mandaric would have to comply, or face the prospect of his THIRD search of the season for a new manager - which in all probability would be terminal for our season and perhaps even for the club. Meanwhile Holloway could walk away knowing that he could get by on his media work until a new job came his way.

If buyers cannot be found for these wasters (as proved to be the case when Martin Allen attempted a more modest clearout in the summer), then Mandaric may have to pay their contracts up. But this is not exactly an area in which he lacks experience or expertise, is it?

Totally agree. It is the players that are ****ing everything up at this club - which is why im surprised at your anti Mandaric-ness, as the poison was purchased while Milan was still at Pompey.

But nonetheless, we need a massive clearout, no doubt, cos we aint goin nowhere with this lot.

[pauliepaul]

Do us all a favour and go eat a hemorrhoid.

Dan their are a cracking pair of bangers on your gif!! NICE

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

Dan their are a cracking pair of bangers on your gif!! NICE

Thanks, they distract people from the lack of quality in my posts

[Daz.I]

let's judge him after january

[nickm]

Have you been watching the last 3 and a half years? You make it sound like Ollie is the one who brought us in to this mess. The fact is that you are the one who is deluded - we clearly don't have the players who are capable of "challenging" as you would suggest. We have been crap for 3 1/2 years now and each and every manager who has come in has tried and failed to improve the situation. OLLIE HAS NOT YET HAD THAT CHANCE so fooking lay off.

our problems go much deeper than what manager we have-there is obviously something wrong at training ground level or even deeper--i'm the first to admit clemence is playing like a plank but he didn't just become bad overnight did he--he was and still is a good player but there's a deeper reason as to why he and others aren't doing it!

[Guest]

I will say definately not,hes doing a very poor job and his selections and tactics are very poor!

Looks like we are stuck with another deadwood manager on a long contract!

I've not read the other 8 pages, but seriously, you are doing my head in.

[Ultra]

Totally agree. It is the players that are ****ing everything up at this club - which is why im surprised at your anti Mandaric-ness, as the poison was purchased while Milan was still at Pompey.

But nonetheless, we need a massive clearout, no doubt, cos we aint goin nowhere with this lot.

Some of the poison has arrived while Mandaric has been here.

It's also well documented that one of the factors in his dismissal of Martin Allen was unrest among the players - some of whom were considered indispensable, even though their record of almost unremitting failure with us does nothing to support that view.

If Holloway wants to get rid of any player (Kisnorbo, Hume, Fryatt - or even all three), Mandaric should sit back and let him. And if anyone else in the squad whinges about so-called "bullying", they too should be shown the door.

There can be no half measures. The deadwood MUST be cleared out, no matter what it takes.

Anything else, and the fanbase will continue to wither.

[Manwell Pablo]

I honestly think it's a sad that in this day and age someone can suggest sacking a manager after about six or seven games and be taken semi seriously.

[Thracian]

I honestly think it's a sad that in this day and age someone can suggest sacking a manager after about six or seven games and be taken semi seriously.

Never mind that, are you feeling better? I'm not anticipating anything but I wouldn't feel right arguing with you if you were still feeling rough.

[Ultra]

I honestly think it's a sad that in this day and age someone can suggest sacking a manager after about six or seven games and be taken semi seriously.

But this is a club where this year alone, the dismissal of a manager happened after five games in one instance and four games in another.

Instability breeds instability. The problem starts at the very top.

At least this time the chairman has yet to go whinging to his mates in the media...

[Manwell Pablo]

But this is a club where this year alone, the dismissal of a manager happened after five games in one instance and four games in another.

Instability breeds instability. The problem starts at the very top.

At least this time the chairman has yet to go whinging to his mates in the media...

Look, Ultra, I know you said Milan Madaric wasn't right for this club and so far he's done little to disprove that but the first thing you have to consider is the alternative, and that would be we'd have two or three fewer good players no depth at all and we'd be stuck in that situation because we'd have no money to buy anyone else next month, we'd also have no money to attract a decent manager and no decent prospects to make him want to manager Leicester either. At the time of selling we were pretty desperate we were clearly losing money and fast, Milans not had that long in charge, not by chairmans terms. We were begging for investment for months before he turned up, he still has time to turn this around, it took him a very long time at Portsmouth.

I know for some reason you have this theory in your head that someone else was just around the corner but sorry, I don't believe for a second that someone who had the same finacial clout as Milan was interested in the club.

The Martin Allen thing I agree was strange and I was as bemused and upset as you were when he first went and I was never that hot on the bloke to start off with. You can speculate to the reasons as much as you want, it's done, it was for non footballing reasons, and for some reason no football club has touched him since. Which I find very strange.

And Wortho was not dismissed was he, your making things up now, his contract was up.

I do still apperciate that you said all wouldn't be rosey under Milan and you are yet to be proven wrong (as I'm not impossibly bitter, stuborn, and hellbent on being right all the time) but theres still time for it to be turned around, years more likely, so I'd stop sharpening your knives now.

[The Reverend]

Some of the poison has arrived while Mandaric has been here.

It's also well documented that one of the factors in his dismissal of Martin Allen was unrest among the players - some of whom were considered indispensable, even though their record of almost unremitting failure with us does nothing to support that view.

If Holloway wants to get rid of any player (Kisnorbo, Hume, Fryatt - or even all three), Mandaric should sit back and let him. And if anyone else in the squad whinges about so-called "bullying", they too should be shown the door.

There can be no half measures. The deadwood MUST be cleared out, no matter what it takes.

Anything else, and the fanbase will continue to wither.

Yes it has i agree, but it was brought in by Allen, yes Mandaric appointed him, but it was clear he was not cut out for a club like ours, and was probably rightfully given his marching orders. You have to applaud Mandarc for acting so fast, though hes hardly excelled himself in getting new ones in...

[Dr_Fox]

Holloways achievement at Plymouth wasn't as great as he would have us believe. He took over Plymouth after they had finished 14th and in his only full season they finished 11th! Hardly a meteoric rise.

I was delighted when he was first appointed as I've always thought of Holloway as a motivator first and foremost and somebody who would be able to get the shower of shite we currently call a "squad" to perform.

Unfortunately he's just not doing that and my concern now is; if he's not a motivator of players then just what is his managerial talent

I'm also not at all pleased to read his comments in the paper that he has a "transfer list as long as his arm" I fear he will be another Martin Allen..like a kid in a sweet shop with MM's money just buying players here there and everywhere just because it's the first time he's been able to.

I'm having some serious doubts about the man but am not calling for his sacking.....yet!

[DanTheFoxBhoy]

I'm also not at all pleased to read his comments in the paper that he has a "transfer list as long as his arm" I fear he will be another Martin Allen..like a kid in a sweet shop with MM's money just buying players here there and everywhere just because it's the first time he's been able to.

That makes sense - a manager getting rid of players just for the sake of it, not because they aren't performing.