Heartener for Kaebi fans?

[Calum McDermott]

You'll the hard way if you wish.

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[Churchill]

In all fairness how could anybody look good at hull on saturday the football was poor. And Probaly that long ball football didn't suit him ?

[Calum McDermott]

You learn the hard way if you wish.

Explain!

[Thracian]

In all fairness how could anybody look good at hull on saturday the football was poor. And Probaly that long ball football didn't suit him ?

Hoof football doesn't suit all the ex-Academy kids in the team either but they have to adjust and cope.

What are you suggesting - that we perhaps organise a special Kaebi team?

One which delivers all passes to feet, one which speaks Arabic and one which appoints minders to protect him from 6 foot plus defenders who flatten him among any number of other things?

Shall I tell you what doesn't suit me?

Being fourth from bottom with a team that rarely scores, rarely strings three passes together, which has pronounced weaknesses all over the place and which doesn't look likely to win another game anytime soon.

Kaebi is part of that team. He's never scored in 11 games even for the stiffs, he's never made a goal in those games that I can recall, he's never hit the post or the woodwork or made a defence splitting pass which should have produced a goal and he's not looked like the answer to our passing problems. Yet he plays right wing.

Didn't we have all that with Sylla, Low, and all the other imposters who've turned out for us on the right wing? ;

What the sodding hell is Kaebi for? Tell me. What is he going to give us?

[Simi]

Kaebi is part of that team. He's never scored in 11 games even for the stiffs, he's never made a goal in those games that I can recall, he's never hit the post or the woodwork or made a defence splitting pass which should have produced a goal and he's not looked like the answer to our passing problems. Yet he plays right wing.

Kaebi clearly started to Holloway that he wanted to be played at right back, sadly we have tons of players that can play in that position. Kaebi certainly hasn't set the world alight with his first two starts, but to me, there are glimpses of a good player with a good future once he gets used to the English game.

It's clear you're not a fan of his and fair enough. But with a better team around him and some guidance as to how the English game works I do think he has a future at this club.

[Sepehr]

Don't try to back me into a corner. Kaebi's strengths and weaknesses have been apparent in the reserves just as in the first team - except over a longer period.

There are people on here so determined, for whatever reasons, to defend Kaebi's corner that they make one excuse or another not to consider this, not to consider that.

I tell it as I see it and give my reasons so people can disagree if they wish. I've no idea why our manager chooses to put Kaebi in the team.

But it certainly isn't as a result of weeks watching him play wonderful games for the second team.

It is not my intention to back you into a corner, I actually enjoy reading a lot of your posts. I will even concede that he has played absolutely horribly in the reserves and was responsible for every goal conceded in his 11 appearances, if it will make you happy. After that the manager, being unfair and biased, decided to give him his first 90 minute run out and gave the impression that he did well in his only 90 minute game for Leicester. So to repeat my question in the hope that this time you may answer it:

"what do you think makes your assessment so different from the manager and other commentators, ON KAEBI'S FIRST OUTING FOR LEICESTER CITY'S FIRST TEAM"

I would like to hear the impression of someone like you who went to the Ipswich match and watched Kaebi play closely.

[Thracian]

It is not my intention to back you into a corner, I actually enjoy reading a lot of your posts. I will even concede that he has played absolutely horribly in the reserves and was responsible for every goal conceded in his 11 appearances, if it will make you happy. After that the manager, being unfair and biased, decided to give him his first 90 minute run out and gave the impression that he did well in his only 90 minute game for Leicester. So to repeat my question in the hope that this time you may answer it:

"what do you think makes your assessment so different from the manager and other commentators, ON KAEBI'S FIRST OUTING FOR LEICESTER CITY'S FIRST TEAM"

Unfortunately for you I can only say what my assessments are based on. I cannot speak for other peoples views.

[Sepehr]

Unfortunately for you I can only say what my assessments are based on. I cannot speak for other peoples views.

Fair enough, did you see any positives in Kaebi's play in the Ipswich game that deserved any praise at all?

[Thracian]

Fair enough, did you see any positives in Kaebi's play in the Ipswich game that deserved any praise at all?

I've always seen positives in Kaebi's play and have mentiioned them many times.

It was those positives that made me suggest he was played at right midfield for the reserves for a proper period of time.

That way the management could have best assessed how to use the guy properly and how best to cope with his shortcomings.

How long does it sometimes take for an Arsenal prospect to finally emerge into the first team? Wenger attends to detail, looks at players properly. He works out what he can expect from them and where/how they can best be utilised.

Not here. We're always in so much of a rush. And what a mess as a result.

[WetFlannel]

I've always seen positives in Kaebi's play and have mentiioned them many times.

It was those positives that made me suggest he was played at right midfield for the reserves for a proper period of time.

That way the management could have best assessed how to use the guy properly and how best to cope with his shortcomings.

How long does it sometimes take for an Arsenal prospect to finally emerge into the first team? Wenger attends to detail, looks at players properly. He works out what he can expect from them and where/how they can best be utilised.

Not here. We're always in so much of a rush. And what a mess as a result.

why do you always compare us to arsenal!

[Bert]

Hoof football doesn't suit all the ex-Academy kids in the team either but they have to adjust and cope.

What are you suggesting - that we perhaps organise a special Kaebi team?

One which delivers all passes to feet, one which speaks Arabic and one which appoints minders to protect him from 6 foot plus defenders who flatten him among any number of other things?

Shall I tell you what doesn't suit me?

Being fourth from bottom with a team that rarely scores, rarely strings three passes together, which has pronounced weaknesses all over the place and which doesn't look likely to win another game anytime soon.

Kaebi is part of that team. He's never scored in 11 games even for the stiffs, he's never made a goal in those games that I can recall, he's never hit the post or the woodwork or made a defence splitting pass which should have produced a goal and he's not looked like the answer to our passing problems. Yet he plays right wing.

Didn't we have all that with Sylla, Low, and all the other imposters who've turned out for us on the right wing? ;

What the sodding hell is Kaebi for? Tell me. What is he going to give us?

Why do you include his reserve games?

After 10 games of the 1st team, see if anything's changed.

[Thracian]

Why do you include his reserve games?

After 10 games of the 1st team, see if anything's changed.

Explained many times.

We cannot afford to play him for 10 games in his form this season. Haven't you noticed? We fourth from bottom and falling fast.

[Churchill]

yes thrac we are 20th but you moaning about kaebi aint going to change it don't know why your targeting him what about rest of the team ?

[Trumpet]

At the end of the day. Kaebi or Sterman. Stearmans been terrible. Surely Kaebi should be worth a punt, especially with Stearmans from. Fook the reserves.

We're not Arsenal either. Clearly, so don't compare us to them, its pointless. Rather like comparing Kaebi's goalscoring record to Elvis "The King" Hammond.

[Geo V]

I dont get the post either to be honest.

Thrac almost wanted him to fail for the get-go but has ended his career at 21 despite this being a young man in a foreign country who will no doubt need time to settle. I am yet to see him play but lets not forget that even Didier Drogba was a laughing stock in his first season and turned it around once he settled. Im not saying Kaebi is class but lets give him a chance to settle and maybe we`ll the the best of him when we have a settled squad and manager?

[Thracian]

yes thrac we are 20th but you moaning about kaebi aint going to change it don't know why your targeting him what about half the other team ?

Which "half" of the team has not made fairly significant contributions at one time or another while at our club?

Some may be off form now but at least most (probably all but one) have shown they can play reasonably well for Leicester.

So, on that basis explain to me what Kaebi has done in any team since he arrived in September to merit praise and confidence in his ability.

The pressure for his inclusion continues but people deftly sidestep this and similar questions.

Because the truth is he's done very little and Saturday's performance showed some of the reasons why very clearly.

[Micky Ruddle]

Maybe because he is playing out of position?

He is a right back, not a right mid, not a left back, not a striker...a right back.

He's only played two games for christs sake. Fcuk the reserves. This is the first team we're on about here. Surely the first team is more important than the reserves. Everyone has bad games, you got to give the lad a chance in his natural position.

Soo, whats your opinion on Stearman then Thrac? Class? Genius? Worthy of an England call up?

The way Stearmans been playing, i wouldn't play him in our local village team. Useless bag of crap.

[andyh1884]

Which "half" of the team has not made fairly significant contributions at one time or another while at our club?

Some may be off form now but at least most (probably all but one) have shown they can play reasonably well for Leicester.

So, on that basis explain to me what Kaebi has done in any team since he arrived in September to merit praise and confidence in his ability.

The pressure for his inclusion continues but people deftly sidestep this and similar questions.

Because the truth is he's done very little and Saturday's performance showed some of the reasons why very clearly.

So he's come to a new country with an entirely different culture from what he's used to, where they speak a language he doesn't speak and he's taken a while to settle in? 'He's not been an instant hit and therefore should be tossed aside' seems to be your attitude.

I seem to remember Gerry Taggert and Robbie Savage taking a while to settle in and they came from other English clubs. Gerry especially looked dreadful for a few months, but look how he came on after that. If even experienced professionals can't settle in immediately, perhaps we could cut kaebi some slack?

You say Kaebi's done nowt since he arrived, but I'm not sure there are too many of the other 21 players used by Holloway who've done much to cover themselves in glory.

[Manwell Pablo]

So he's come to a new country with an entirely different culture from what he's used to, where they speak a language he doesn't speak and he's taken a while to settle in? 'He's not been an instant hit and therefore should be tossed aside' seems to be your attitude.

I seem to remember Gerry Taggert and Robbie Savage taking a while to settle in and they came from other English clubs. Gerry especially looked dreadful for a few months, but look how he came on after that. If even experienced professionals can't settle in immediately, perhaps we could cut kaebi some slack?

You say Kaebi's done nowt since he arrived, but I'm not sure there are too many of the other 21 players used by Holloway who've done much to cover themselves in glory.

Sorry, only Irish/British youth team players are entitiled to "Slack"

[Thracian]

Maybe because he is playing out of position?

He is a right back, not a right mid, not a left back, not a striker...a right back.

He's only played two games for christs sake. Fcuk the reserves. This is the first team we're on about here. Surely the first team is more important than the reserves. Everyone has bad games, you got to give the lad a chance in his natural position.

Soo, whats your opinion on Stearman then Thrac? Class? Genius? Worthy of an England call up?

The way Stearmans been playing, i wouldn't play him in our local village team. Useless bag of crap.

One thing that is 100% latched on for me - Kaebi's not an English League right back.

He might, given time and patience, adapt to become a right midfielder but he frightens me rigid as a full-back.

I'll ignore your sarcasm concerning Stearman, especially as I've never been his greatest fan.

Stearman has good skills. He can do a few tricks and he can even finish given chance.

But, as a full-back he doesn't stay tight enough, is too easily turned for my liking and is not the fastest to recover either.

On the plus side he is brave, he does have stamina, he will get forward and he does get his body in the way of things and make valuable interceptions.

The big letdown is his passing. He can play short, simple passes but too often last season and this he has played the aimless ball into areas where the opposing defenders are likely to win and me, I'm a Wenger man. I won't have it. Except in times of extreme pressure there is no excuse for wilfully giving the ball away.

I watched Neil Lennon yesterday. There is no-one on two legs couldn't do what he did. Only once, in a vain chase with Chambers did he try to run fast. Otherwise he trotted around making himself available for the out ball.

Never once did he pass the ball more than 10 yards or try anything complicated and only once do I recall him lifting the ball in the air. Yes I know he played in midfield but the point is that, slow and limited as he looks he never once that I remember gave possession away.

Guess who's team won. If you don't give the ball away you've a lot more chance of winning than the opposition and Stearman, for me, gives the ball away too much.

But that doesn't mean Kaebi is the answer. He isn't.

[Thracian]

So he's come to a new country with an entirely different culture from what he's used to, where they speak a language he doesn't speak and he's taken a while to settle in? 'He's not been an instant hit and therefore should be tossed aside' seems to be your attitude.

I seem to remember Gerry Taggert and Robbie Savage taking a while to settle in and they came from other English clubs. Gerry especially looked dreadful for a few months, but look how he came on after that. If even experienced professionals can't settle in immediately, perhaps we could cut kaebi some slack?

You say Kaebi's done nowt since he arrived, but I'm not sure there are too many of the other 21 players used by Holloway who've done much to cover themselves in glory.

Kaebi's the only player I know who's been cut so much slack he could get promoted to the first team on the back of some piss-poor reserve team peformances.

[andyh1884]

Kaebi's the only player I know who's been cut so much slack he could get promoted to the first team on the back of some piss-poor reserve team peformances.

Or is it not a case of Holloway taking a look at every player in his squad before the transfer window opens? He's used 22 players, the only ones he's not played are injured (bar the odd exception probably). It's not like any of our other managers this season have put him in the first team on the back of 'some piss-poor reserve team performances' so that quite frankly is utter bollocks.

He was given a game against Ipswich, he did well and so started against Hull - where's the problem with that?

[Thracian]

Or is it not a case of Holloway taking a look at every player in his squad before the transfer window opens? He's used 22 players, the only ones he's not played are injured (bar the odd exception probably). It's not like any of our other managers this season have put him in the first team on the back of 'some piss-poor reserve team performances' so that quite frankly is utter bollocks.

He was given a game against Ipswich, he did well and so started against Hull - where's the problem with that?

What's the problem? Well we lost both games for a start and scored one sodding goal. Kaebi didn't have a shot in either that I recall and didn't lay on a single chance. Nothing particularly new in that.

Furthermore in accommodating him, our team conceded goals at more than double the historic rate we've been conceding them previously this season.

Our first team should not be an Experimental Xl. Using 22 players has been no help at all, I referred to his endless changes last week. Holloway has full-length videos available of every player.

And Megson didn't put Kaebi in the team having personally taken the trouble to watch him in the reserves because he didn't appear to like what he saw.

[Fat Ron]

Kaebi didn't have a shot in either that I recall and didn't lay on a single chance.

HE IS A ****ING RIGHT BACK!!!!!!

'Kinell...

[davieG]

HE IS A ****ING RIGHT BACK!!!!!!

'Kinell...

Not when he's in our first team and not when he plays for his Country.