Ollie won't raid Plymouth

[Bluenose76]

babs you stick to reading newspapers and second guessing and i will stick to what i know,i could put alot more about holloway up here but i doubt simpletons like yourself will see past "ollie"

when he came to us i spoke to him for about 30 minutes after the first 10 i thought legend we are going to push for the play offs for sure then the amount he talked about plymouth and certain players he seemed to be someone losing the plot now he is giving up on them,it seems mm has told holloway he wont be paying over the odds and holloway has said fair enough but i doubt he will be happy about it

Plymouth fan by chance?

[Big Time Charlies]

Its important to realise that Holloway is not a miracle worker and will need quite a bit of time to gel the new signings into the team and then work out his best team. (always plays 4-4-2) so we know which areas he will look to buy. Midfield is the obvious starting place, but with his reputation I can see a further 2/3 strikers joining as well.

Absolutely - just look at Big Sam at Newcastle. Undoubtedly he's an excellent manager but it's going to take him time to mould the team into what he wants them to be. The same will be true of Ollie.

In fact, not wanting to draw comparisons between us and Newcastle, but they are another team who've had a number of managers come and go leaving behind a mish-mash of players and a disjointed club. The same thing has happened to us!

[davieG]

babs you stick to reading newspapers and second guessing and i will stick to what i know,i could put alot more about holloway up here but i doubt simpletons like yourself will see past "ollie"

when he came to us i spoke to him for about 30 minutes after the first 10 i thought legend we are going to push for the play offs for sure then the amount he talked about plymouth and certain players he seemed to be someone losing the plot now he is giving up on them,it seems mm has told holloway he wont be paying over the odds and holloway has said fair enough but i doubt he will be happy about it

So are you saying you were fooled by first appearances? or are you just second guessing that he has lost the plot and that MM has told him he wont be paying over the odds. Your use of the word 'seems' in both cases suggests second guessing.

Like the rest of us

[Bluenose76]

Absolutely - just look at Big Sam at Newcastle. Undoubtedly he's an excellent manager but it's going to take him time to mould the team into what he wants them to be. The same will be true of Ollie.

In fact, not wanting to draw comparisons between us and Newcastle, but they are another team who've had a number of managers come and go leaving behind a mish-mash of players and a disjointed club. The same thing has happened to us!

Stability is without doubt the key here. The turnover in managers has made us a CCC laughing stock, its almost as bad as being offered the England job. MM will need to keep his nerve with Holloway. We will get some high and lows, but we won't make the play-offs this season so we might as well plan for next. Can MM be that patient? Time will tell I guess but we will get nowhere taking the hiring and firing road thats for sure

[mancunianfox]

babs you stick to reading newspapers and second guessing and i will stick to what i know,i could put alot more about holloway up here but i doubt simpletons like yourself will see past "ollie"

when he came to us i spoke to him for about 30 minutes after the first 10 i thought legend we are going to push for the play offs for sure then the amount he talked about plymouth and certain players he seemed to be someone losing the plot now he is giving up on them,it seems mm has told holloway he wont be paying over the odds and holloway has said fair enough but i doubt he will be happy about it

There is nothing anywere stating that Mandaric has told Holloway he can't sign any Plymouth players. The incinuation of the article is that Plymouth told Mandaric that they weren't willing to negotiate with him for any of their players. Not sure how anyone can read that and conjure up a rift between Holloway and Mandaric.

[mancunianfox]

Absolutely - just look at Big Sam at Newcastle. Undoubtedly he's an excellent manager but it's going to take him time to mould the team into what he wants them to be. The same will be true of Ollie.

In fact, not wanting to draw comparisons between us and Newcastle, but they are another team who've had a number of managers come and go leaving behind a mish-mash of players and a disjointed club. The same thing has happened to us!

Interesting comparison. We are the Newcastle of the lower leagues!

[Babylon]

babs you stick to reading newspapers and second guessing and i will stick to what i know,i could put alot more about holloway up here but i doubt simpletons like yourself will see past "ollie"

when he came to us i spoke to him for about 30 minutes after the first 10 i thought legend we are going to push for the play offs for sure then the amount he talked about plymouth and certain players he seemed to be someone losing the plot now he is giving up on them,it seems mm has told holloway he wont be paying over the odds and holloway has said fair enough but i doubt he will be happy about it

Simpleton ha ha ha. As Davie G pointed out, once again you are filling in the gaps with your own opinion and passing it off as fact. "It seems" is your interpretation and one that is wide of the mark to most respected level headed posters on here.

I'll freely admit I hadn't seen that interview, as I just wait for the transcribed versions. But at least the guy had the decency to put up a link to back it up. Where as you sit there knowing "a lot more" but you never have anything to back it up other than "it seems".

There is nothing anywere stating that Mandaric has told Holloway he can't sign any Plymouth players. The incinuation of the article is that Plymouth told Mandaric that they weren't willing to negotiate with him for any of their players. Not sure how anyone can read that and conjure up a rift between Holloway and Mandaric.

Don't you are banging your head against a brick wall. Us simpletons aren't on his wave length.

[ArgyleTilIDie]

Ah well, not really a loss it it?

HAHAHAH

NOT A LOSS?

THE FACT THAT WE ARE 13 PLACES ABOVE YOU

AND ARE ON THE EDGES OF A PLAY-OFF SLOT THIS SEASON

SURELY MUST MEAN WE ARE A BETTER SIDE THEN YOU AT THE MOMENT?

SO WHY WOULD ANY OF OUR PLAYERS WANT TO LEAVE A SIDE WHO IS COMPETEING FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT TO JOIN A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO AVOID THE DROP,

THE ARGYLE PLAYERS HAVE SEEN HOW HOLLOW HOLLOWAY IS BY TURNING HIS BACK ON A CLUB DESTINED TO PUSH FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT AND JOINING A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO STAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP

SO WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO GO AND JOIN HIM

WHEN HE HAS TURNT HIS BACK ON THEM

[WetFlannel]

HAHAHAH

NOT A LOSS?

THE FACT THAT WE ARE 13 PLACES ABOVE YOU

AND ARE ON THE EDGES OF A PLAY-OFF SLOT THIS SEASON

SURELY MUST MEAN WE ARE A BETTER SIDE THEN YOU AT THE MOMENT?

SO WHY WOULD ANY OF OUR PLAYERS WANT TO LEAVE A SIDE WHO IS COMPETEING FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT TO JOIN A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO AVOID THE DROP,

THE ARGYLE PLAYERS HAVE SEEN HOW HOLLOW HOLLOWAY IS BY TURNING HIS BACK ON A CLUB DESTINED TO PUSH FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT AND JOINING A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO STAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP

SO WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO GO AND JOIN HIM

WHEN HE HAS TURNT HIS BACK ON THEM

another one... great

[Babylon]

SO WHY WOULD ANY OF OUR PLAYERS WANT TO LEAVE A SIDE WHO IS COMPETEING FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT TO JOIN A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO AVOID THE DROP,

You mean like Holloway did.

[Bluenose76]

HAHAHAH

NOT A LOSS?

THE FACT THAT WE ARE 13 PLACES ABOVE YOU

AND ARE ON THE EDGES OF A PLAY-OFF SLOT THIS SEASON

SURELY MUST MEAN WE ARE A BETTER SIDE THEN YOU AT THE MOMENT?

SO WHY WOULD ANY OF OUR PLAYERS WANT TO LEAVE A SIDE WHO IS COMPETEING FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT TO JOIN A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO AVOID THE DROP,

THE ARGYLE PLAYERS HAVE SEEN HOW HOLLOW HOLLOWAY IS BY TURNING HIS BACK ON A CLUB DESTINED TO PUSH FOR A PLAY-OFF SPOT AND JOINING A CLUB WHO IS FIGHTING TO STAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP

SO WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO GO AND JOIN HIM

WHEN HE HAS TURNT HIS BACK ON THEM

No need to shout fella and whats a turnt?

You mean like Holloway did.

Lets not fool ourselves. Holloway is here for one reason only. Money.

[Babylon]

No need to shout fella and whats a turnt?

Lets not fool ourselves. Holloway is here for one reason only. Money.

It's like a normal turn, but when your back is burnt.

[Bluenose76]

It's like a normal turn, but when your back is burnt.

[ArgyleTilIDie]

No need to shout fella and whats a turnt?

Lets not fool ourselves. Holloway is here for one reason only. Money.

yeh and that is why the plymouth fans hate him so much, after saying so much about the club saying that this was his vehicle to get into the premiership, and then be pulled away by a bloke waving ££££ in front of his eyes, it wouldnt have been so bad if he just said no comment to the speculation before he joined you but no, he had to make up another load of lies and con the fans,players and club into believing him. It just shows how fickle and unloyal he is. But he will not let it lie and has constantly brought plymouth up again and again, trying to unsettle us with offering money to our players, he should learn to keep his mouth shut because hes getting himself into more deeper Sh1t and making our board not want to deal with him. Also now that leicester is struggling he is starting to lose it, at plymouth he didnt have pressure on him as are expectations were to gradually climb up the table, but now hes gone to leicester its more pressure, from the looks at it in his recent interviews he is looking like he regrets leaving plymouth,

[Babylon]

Lets not fool ourselves. Holloway is here for one reason only. Money.

How do you know? Has he told you?

So it has nothing to do with:

Bigger Stadium

Better Training Ground

A fan base double the size

More money to spend on players

More money to spend on wages

Being a more attractive proposition to players

Not having to sell players

Even if it was just down to money, who's to say the Plymouth players don't think the same.

[Bluenose76]

yeh and that is why the plymouth fans hate him so much, after saying so much about the club saying that this was his vehicle to get into the premiership, and then be pulled away by a bloke waving ££££ in front of his eyes, it wouldnt have been so bad if he just said no comment to the speculation before he joined you but no, he had to make up another load of lies and con the fans,players and club into believing him. It just shows how fickle and unloyal he is. But he will not let it lie and has constantly brought plymouth up again and again, trying to unsettle us with offering money to our players, he should learn to keep his mouth shut because hes getting himself into more deeper Sh1t and making our board not want to deal with him. Also now that leicester is struggling he is starting to lose it, at plymouth he didnt have pressure on him as are expectations were to gradually climb up the table, but now hes gone to leicester its more pressure, from the looks at it in his recent interviews he is looking like he regrets leaving plymouth,

Wow. Breaking news!! Cheers for that. Simmer down fella.

For what its worth I don't like Holloway, don't believe he should ever been appointed in the first place and he was third choice, so I understand your frustrations, I would have rather he stayed with you to be honest. BUT we have got him now and as fans of LCFC what are we supposed to do? Hate him?

Anyway you have Sturrock back, and on balance a better manager IMO, certainly good with tactics

[Babylon]

yeh and that is why the plymouth fans hate him so much, after saying so much about the club saying that this was his vehicle to get into the premiership, and then be pulled away by a bloke waving ££££ in front of his eyes, it wouldnt have been so bad if he just said no comment to the speculation before he joined you but no, he had to make up another load of lies and con the fans,players and club into believing him. It just shows how fickle and unloyal he is. But he will not let it lie and has constantly brought plymouth up again and again, trying to unsettle us with offering money to our players, he should learn to keep his mouth shut because hes getting himself into more deeper Sh1t and making our board not want to deal with him. Also now that leicester is struggling he is starting to lose it, at plymouth he didnt have pressure on him as are expectations were to gradually climb up the table, but now hes gone to leicester its more pressure, from the looks at it in his recent interviews he is looking like he regrets leaving plymouth,

He won't let it lie... says the plymouth fan who has joined a Leicester forum to talk about Holloway.

[ArgyleTilIDie]

How do you know? Has he told you?

So it has nothing to do with:

Bigger Stadium

Better Training Ground

A fan base double the size

More money to spend on players

More money to spend on wages

Being a more attractive proposition to players

Not having to sell players

Even if it was just down to money, who's to say the Plymouth players don't think the same.

Shame you have not got a quality side to match that to,

and how many 1st team players have argyle sold?....None

And attractive propersition with players? the way you are going at the moment many championship players from the sides that are in the top 10 would not want to go to a club on the edges of the relegation places

[Bluenose76]

How do you know? Has he told you?

So it has nothing to do with:

Bigger Stadium

Better Training Ground

A fan base double the size

More money to spend on players

More money to spend on wages

Being a more attractive proposition to players

Not having to sell players

Even if it was just down to money, who's to say the Plymouth players don't think the same.

Don't forget more money for himself

The defence rests m'lud.

[Staf]

Plymouth fans are so pathetic they are constantly on here slating holloway GO AWAY

[Babylon]

And attractive propersition with players? the way you are going at the moment many championship players from the sides that are in the top 10 would not want to go to a club on the edges of the relegation places

Well your manager thought it was attractive enough to come here!!!

[Bryn]

Shame you have not got a quality side to match that to,

and how many 1st team players have argyle sold?....None

And attractive propersition with players? the way you are going at the moment many championship players from the sides that are in the top 10 would not want to go to a club on the edges of the relegation places

Buzsaky. Capaldi. Tit.

[davieG]

[Babylon]

Don't forget more money for himself

The defence rests m'lud.

Eh... how can you say that??? What have you proved??? All you have proved is that your opinion is that he is money orientated.

[Bluenose76]

Buzsaky. Capaldi. Tit.

Don't recall Tit. What position did he play?