Mandaric

[Flexx]

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That is all he thinks it takes to get to the big time doesn't he?

Splashing out 15K a week on Stephen Clemence, and paying ridiculous amounts of compo to every manager he sacks.

He has no patience. I am not blaming him for where we are, but money doesn't bring success.

Just look at Brizzle City, top of the league. I bet not one of their players is on more than 5K a week.

We were all saying before, we have no money to sign decent players. But now we do have better players, we are getting beaten by teams who have less money and generally have a worse side. Im not on about Sheff United.

What next?

[Daggers]

Another Mandaric thread?

[Nick]

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That is all he thinks it takes to get to the big time doesn't he?

Splashing out 15K a week on Stephen Clemence, and paying ridiculous amounts of compo to every manager he sacks.

He has no patience. I am not blaming him for where we are, but money doesn't bring success.

Just look at Brizzle City, top of the league. I bet not one of their players is on more than 5K a week.

We were all saying before, we have no money to sign decent players. But now we do have better players, we are getting beaten by teams who have less money and generally have a worse side. Im not on about Sheff United.

What next?

what would you have liked him to have done?

[Eastern Fox]

What's your point? Things don't always turn out as you want them to in football. We're better off with his money than without it. We knew Mandaric didn't have much patience when he took over-just look at his record at Portsmouth.

[STUHILL]

Only thing that can make this day worse, is listening to you moaning lot! Good day Sir!

[Flexx]

what would you have liked him to have done?

Not pay over the odds for players. Sign players who want success, and are not just after the money.

And Holloway will be sacked in the summer, whether we stay up or not.

We all no it deep down.

[Matt]

I think alot of fans though all our problems were solved when Milan took over aswell.

I want Milan to stay, without him we'd be in an even worse position, although some of the decisions he's made have been questionable, and if we go down we really would be in the shit.

But if I was in Milan's position I would really have to question staying or going, Lose more money for the time being with the gamble of waiting for it to turn and make some money back or Sell up now make some of his money back?

I'd be swaying more towards sell up and reclaim abit of money. Its a huge job here, more than he thought when he took over, He knew we were in trouble, but I don't think he realized how big a mess.

And when you say all Milan cares about is £££ of course, He's a businessman, He's not here because he supports us, he's not here because he has any ties with us, he's here because he saw an easy profit in us...Wrong. We do have the facilities and infrastructure of a big team but he didn't realise how for of a big team we were on the pitch

[Knighton Matt]

£££

That is all he thinks it takes to get to the big time doesn't he?

Splashing out 15K a week on Stephen Clemence, and paying ridiculous amounts of compo to every manager he sacks.

He has no patience. I am not blaming him for where we are, but money doesn't bring success.

Just look at Brizzle City, top of the league. I bet not one of their players is on more than 5K a week.

We were all saying before, we have no money to sign decent players. But now we do have better players, we are getting beaten by teams who have less money and generally have a worse side. Im not on about Sheff United.

What next?

Hardly his fault though is it? Think about if you were chairman and your manager (at the time Allen) comes to you and says I want to buy the captain of the team that just got promoted, he'll cost £x and he's currently on £y per week at his current club. Is that ok? What's he supposed to say? No sorry I'd rather you bought someone for less? The managers are buying the players all Milan is doing his putting his faith (money) in the manager's ability to pick the right players.

[stevec]

£££

That is all he thinks it takes to get to the big time doesn't he?

Splashing out 15K a week on Stephen Clemence, and paying ridiculous amounts of compo to every manager he sacks.

He has no patience. I am not blaming him for where we are, but money doesn't bring success.

Just look at Brizzle City, top of the league. I bet not one of their players is on more than 5K a week.

We were all saying before, we have no money to sign decent players. But now we do have better players, we are getting beaten by teams who have less money and generally have a worse side. Im not on about Sheff United.

What next?

And your point is? Are you saying the chairman affects results more than the manager or players? If Allen says he wants to sign the captain of a team that got promoted and we can afford to do that - who wouldn't?

Noones fault but players like Clemence who just haven't lived up to their billing. I don't think there was anyone who said "crap signing" at the time - quite the opposite.

[Flexx]

I think alot of fans though all our problems were solved when Milan took over aswell.

I want Milan to stay, without him we'd be in an even worse position, although some of the decisions he's made have been questionable, and if we go down we really would be in the shit.

But if I was in Milan's position I would really have to question staying or going, Lose more money for the time being with the gamble of waiting for it to turn and make some money back or Sell up now make some of his money back?

I'd be swaying more towards sell up and reclaim abit of money. Its a huge job here, more than he thought when he took over, He knew we were in trouble, but I don't think he realized how big a mess.

And when you say all Milan cares about is £££ of course, He's a businessman, He's not here because he supports us, he's not here because he has any ties with us, he's here because he saw an easy profit in us...Wrong. We do have the facilities and infrastructure of a big team but he didn't realise how for of a big team we were on the pitch

Yeah im not questioning that he wants to make money out of us.

But what im questioning, is the way in which he thinks that success will come down to spending so much money.

And by the way i want Milan to stay. Just think he needs to calm down a bit, and not order instant success.

All of our players are under pressure to do well, it's much better to have no pressure whatsoever and go into every game and enjoy it. Like Bristol City and Colchester last season.

[MPH]

Not pay over the odds for players. Sign players who want success, and are not just after the money.

And Holloway will be sacked in the summer, whether we stay up or not.

We all no it deep down.

so you want them to be asked in signing talks...

" do you want success or are you just after the money?"

yup, that will really weed the bad ones out.

[Flexx]

so you want them to be asked in signing talks...

" do you want success or are you just after the money?"

yup, that will really weed the bad ones out.

No. Not really. Anyone can see the way players go about themselves on the pitch.

Howard puts his all in. Obviously players arn't going to reject a high offer, so maybe we shouldn't offer so much.

[stevec]

Howard puts his all in.

Now I know your just having a laugh. I'm cranky enough with us getting ever closer to deep deep trouble.

This is a topic for if we were 8th and bottling it to reach the play offs.

[Matt]

The only way of weeding out the money-grabbing, overpaid, poor excuses for footballers would be giving players a very low basic pay then a bigger wage on a pay-as-you-play type contract, which would only work if other teams joined forces and started only offering this type of contract.

Obviously if one team offered a pay-as-you-play contract and another team offered a normal standard contract they player is likly to go for the standard contract, so it would need to be a pact or rule between many teams to do this which is never going to happen.

At least under a pay-as-you-play contract the players would always want to be on top form, trying, fighting for their places in the team, not happy to just sit on the bench, e.t.c.

Never going to happen though, Sadly.

[The Reverend]

No. Not really. Anyone can see the way players go about themselves on the pitch.

Howard puts his all in. Obviously players arn't going to reject a high offer, so maybe we shouldn't offer so much.

You see thats your opinion. there have been plenty on here that have said he's a lazy carthorse?

[Flexx]

You see thats your opinion. there have been plenty on here that have said he's a lazy carthorse?

The games i've seen him in, he tries to win every header than comes his way and tries and lifts the players.

It's hard for him at the moment, maybe because morale is so low. And if the rest of the team arn't going to put any effort in, then why should he. It's a team game, not down to individual performances.

[Knighton Matt]

Howard puts his all in

sorry son but you're having a laugh there. one of the laziest players i've seen for a long time.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

You see thats your opinion. there have been plenty on here that have said he's a lazy carthorse?

That caption reminds me of a labour mp.

[Mr Happy]

I for one am glad to have him in charge so yes some decisions may be questionable but in the long term i'm positive things will be ok, most importantly us not going bankrupt/into administration, thanks to MM and come next season i'm sure he'll still be our chairman (he wouldn't sell us unless he could make a profit I'd imagine what with him being a businessman and all ) and he'll stick by us whichever league we are in.

Maybe if we spent less cash in the transfer market next season, halved our squad size and brought in a couple of decent players then we'd become a successful team eh?

[Flexx]

To be fair, this thread was made in the heat of the moment. Dissappointed with the result.

Just hope we can push on next season.

[Ultra]

You see thats your opinion. there have been plenty on here that have said he's a lazy carthorse?

Indeed - usually the people who don't go to games.

Considering he's been paired in attack with the truly appalling Fryatt, Howard's done quite well in recent games.

[Metartarsal]

Hardly his fault though is it? Think about if you were chairman and your manager (at the time Allen) comes to you and says I want to buy the captain of the team that just got promoted, he'll cost £x and he's currently on £y per week at his current club. Is that ok? What's he supposed to say? No sorry I'd rather you bought someone for less? The managers are buying the players all Milan is doing his putting his faith (money) in the manager's ability to pick the right players.

I've got two problems with Mandaric.

First, it's not clear who is signing the players or providing the contacts, the manager (whichever it was at the time) or the chairman.

(eg Hasselbaink) Mandaric has to appoint the manager, provide the cash (even if it's all loans borrowed against the club) and then shut up and let the manager he appointed do his job. If Mandy keeps out of it and results don't improve, then he's every right to sack the manager. If Mandaric keeps interfering, maybe the manager or 3 of them isn't the problem.

Second..

Mandaric makes all these claims that turn out to be just b******ks. There's been a long line - we're going up in August, then we'll look at extending the Walkers (when behind the scenes, half of the stadium isn't used), £2m+ spent to get Campbell, £11m spent "out of his own money" on the squad, oh and buying the club for virtually nothing. That was fine but then to put it out in the Mercury, the national papers and Radio Barber that it cost £25m, is just a lie. He is is shifty at best.

All the promises at the start of the season have been as worthless as Micky Adams saying Keep The Faith. I hope to f*** we don't go down but Mandaric is as much to blame as any other. He can't escape the s*** if it hits the fan.

[Barry Trotter]

£££

That is all he thinks it takes to get to the big time doesn't he?

Splashing out 15K a week on Stephen Clemence, and paying ridiculous amounts of compo to every manager he sacks.

He has no patience. I am not blaming him for where we are, but money doesn't bring success.

Just look at Brizzle City, top of the league. I bet not one of their players is on more than 5K a week.

We were all saying before, we have no money to sign decent players. But now we do have better players, we are getting beaten by teams who have less money and generally have a worse side. Im not on about Sheff United.

What next?

Without him we probably wouldn't be in this division, we would have gone into administration. The man deserves some respect.

[Kilworthfox]

Without him we probably wouldn't be in this division, we would have gone into administration. The man deserves some respect.

I am not saying he is perfect either but see above

[Foxes_Trust]

Without him we probably wouldn't be in this division, we would have gone into administration. The man deserves some respect.

We would not have gone into administration.

Had to sell the players who would attract the highest fees yes, and not spend the money on agents and players wages like Milan has done, but as Bristol City have proved you can do well in this division if the manager gets the right squad of players together, picking them from lower divisions.