Thracian Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Holloway has a problem quite apart from the injury to Hendrie. Stick with the guys who valiantly rather than stylishly won an away game or try to put an even better team into the field. We're all euphoric about our win but let's not forget that Barnsley hit the woodwork twice and really did have the chances to win themselves or certainly take a point which would have well wrecked our party. By almost all accounts Clapham was a weakness. And what about Oakley? He too sounded anonymous. Do you change one or both and can Hayles last 90 minutes? Would two or three changes be too many? Difficult as I say but for me: ================== Henderson; Stearman, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Mattock, Wesolowski; Bell, King, Beswick; Hume, Howard. Subs: N'Gotty, Chambers, Oakley, Hayles, DJ. That line-up would guarantee goals with Stearman and Mattock well able to supplement midfield when we have the ball and Beswick able to help Mattock out, as he has done for years while still providing the answer to our free-kick problem which will be more pressing than ever with Hendrie (presumably) injured. King would provide a potential third striker ghosting into the box behind Howard leaving Hayles, who I rate quite highly, to come on with people tiring second half. The fluidity would run right through, apart from the centre-backs and they're not going to change now.
clazkel Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 After winning a vital game away from home and after decent performances from our starting strikers plus an arguable man of the match performance from substitute Hayles (or Hume) I reckon you could risk a lot of money on Fryatt having no chance of starting.Holloway seems quite reactive when people cock-up and Fryatt's miss against Colchester - never mind his scoring record as far back as I can be bothered to remember - won't have helped his cause at all. I didn't think Howard had a great game on saturday, and until Hayles came on we didn't look like scoring. Howard doesn't link very well with any of the strikers we have. Even play Hume and Hayles or Hume and DJ up front as i think we look more like scoring when Hume has a creative partner up front with him
Kilworthfox Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 I didn't think Howard had a great game on saturday, and until Hayles came on we didn't look like scoring. Howard doesn't link very well with any of the strikers we have. Even play Hume and Hayles or Hume and DJ up front as i think we look more like scoring when Hume has a creative partner up front with him Yeah Steve Howard is useless! He has become a bad player overnight and has nothing to so with the way we play or the awful, service he receives week in week out
Tilley Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Alnwick Stearman Kisnorbo McAuley Mattock Bell Weso Oakley Hendrie/Zsolt (Depending on Hendrie's fitness) Hayles Hume Subs: Hendo NGotty Etuhu Campbell Howard
James. Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 HendersonStearman Kisnorbo McAuley Mattock Bell Weso Oakley Hendrie/Zsolt (Depending on Hendrie's fitness) Hayles Hume Subs: Hedno NGotty Etuhu Campbell Howard Personally I think Hedno should start. (you knew it was coming didn't you)
Kilworthfox Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Personally I think Hedno should start.(you knew it was coming didn't you)
clazkel Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Yeah Steve Howard is useless! He has become a bad player overnight and has nothing to so with the way we play or the awful, service he receives week in week out I didn't say Howard is useless, i just think on saturday he never looked like scoring, and the way we played didn't suit him. Him and Hume never seem to link up and i think it would be better if we played Hume up front along with DJ, Fryatt or Hayles. I'm sure Howard would be a great player if we played to his strengths but like you say he hasn't been getting the service, so you need 2 strikers that will create for themselves and not rely on service
Kilworthfox Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 I didn't say Howard is useless, i just think on saturday he never looked like scoring, and the way we played didn't suit him. Him and Hume never seem to link up and i think it would be better if we played Hume up front along with DJ, Fryatt or Hayles. I'm sure Howard would be a great player if we played to his strengths but like you say he hasn't been getting the service, so you need 2 strikers that will create for themselves and not rely on service Exactly
Corky Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Henderson Stearman McAuley Kisnorbo Clapham Bell Oakley Weslowski Hendrie Hayles Hume Subs- Chambers Fryatt Howard Etuhu N'Gotty
bigneville Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Holloway has a problem quite apart from the injury to Hendrie.Stick with the guys who valiantly rather than stylishly won an away game or try to put an even better team into the field. We're all euphoric about our win but let's not forget that Barnsley hit the woodwork twice and really did have the chances to win themselves or certainly take a point which would have well wrecked our party. By almost all accounts Clapham was a weakness. And what about Oakley? He too sounded anonymous. Do you change one or both and can Hayles last 90 minutes? Would two or three changes be too many? Difficult as I say but for me: ================== Henderson; Stearman, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Mattock, Wesolowski; Bell, King, Beswick; Hume, Howard. Subs: N'Gotty, Chambers, Oakley, Hayles, DJ. That line-up would guarantee goals with Stearman and Mattock well able to supplement midfield when we have the ball and Beswick able to help Mattock out, as he has done for years while still providing the answer to our free-kick problem which will be more pressing than ever with Hendrie (presumably) injured. King would provide a potential third striker ghosting into the box behind Howard leaving Hayles, who I rate quite highly, to come on with people tiring second half. The fluidity would run right through, apart from the centre-backs and they're not going to change now. Would you seriously give a guy his first start in a game of such importance?
Chairman of the Bored Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 HaylesHayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Hayles Subs: Hayles, Hayles, Hayles, Hayles and Hayles
Mark Posted 21 April 2008 Posted 21 April 2008 Henderson Stearman McAuley Kisnorbo Mattock/Clapham Bell Oakley Weslowski Hendrie Campbell Hume Subs- Alnwick Chambers N'Gotty Fryatt Hayles Pace up front is vital in this one, otherwise Beevers will mark Howard out the game (not that it's difficult). Hayles can come on second half when he has much more impact. Howard it is then.
clazkel Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 I would like to see Mattock playing instead of Clapham, and Hendrie in centre midfield (instead of Weso or Oakley) and Hayles on the wing. I wouldn't play Howard up front with Hume i would play DJ or Fryatt as it will suit Hume better and play to his strengths
Fat Ron Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 Difficult as I say but for me:================== Henderson; Stearman, McAuley, Kisnorbo, Mattock, Wesolowski; Bell, King, Beswick; Hume, Howard. Subs: N'Gotty, Chambers, Oakley, Hayles, DJ. That line-up would guarantee goals with Stearman and Mattock well able to supplement midfield when we have the ball and Beswick able to help Mattock out, as he has done for years while still providing the answer to our free-kick problem which will be more pressing than ever with Hendrie (presumably) injured. King would provide a potential third striker ghosting into the box behind Howard leaving Hayles, who I rate quite highly, to come on with people tiring second half. The fluidity would run right through, apart from the centre-backs and they're not going to change now. Would you seriously give a guy his first start in a game of such importance? Me personally, would love to see Ollie give the lad a chance, if for nothing more but to silence Thracs obvious love affair with the poor boy But in reality its exceptionally doubtful that with 2 of the biggest games the club has ever had, they will risk, let alone pile the pressure on an untried/untested 17 year old boy.
Geo V Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 Gk. HendersonRb. Stearman Lb. McAuley Cb. Kisnorbo Lb. Mattock Rm. Bell Cm. Oakley Cm. Wesolowski Lm. Hendrie - I think we've got to the stage of the season where players may as well play through slight knocks rather than be rested St. Howard St. Hume Subs Hayles - I think his industry works better as a sub from what I've heard. Thinking back over the ratings threads, the games where he has started people generally have not noted as much good things about him. 4 others I think that is about right for now and I agree with your thoughts on bruising Barry. Bring the lad on when the opponents are getting tired and watch him stomp all over them
Thracian Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 Would you seriously give a guy his first start in a game of such importance? I wouldn't have a moment's concern about starting Beswick. He's not a particularly spectacular player which is why he seems to be underrated but In four seasons I could count the number of bad games he's had on less than the fingers of one hand and I can't remember a serious cock-up at any time. Laczko or Beswick? The Hungarian wouldn't get to first base in my book. Times last night I waited for Laczko to attack the ball and play it fast. He didn't do the first at all but invariably let it bounce and his gaining control took so long his opponent had invariably nipped in first and was away and I cannot remember a telling pass all night let alone a fast one. Beswick plays football as simply as I've ever seen. He knows exactly what he's going to do before the ball arrives and does it in a blink. He must be terrific to play alongside because his fast passing always finds his team-mates a moment or two's extra time and that can be decisive for a forward. Not only that but he never makes a pass more complicated than necessary - he's like Kingy in that way. And as for his free-kicks, he's the same with those as with other aspects of his game - accurate and consistent. The reason I'd pick him assuming Hendrie is unfit, or on the bench if he's not, is simple. He's the best option we've got for what's needed and I don't harbour even a flicker of doubt about the guy any more than I would with King, Weso, Gradel or one or two more who've spent years being schooled properly. Beswick makes goals, more than occasionally scores goals, takes the quality free kicks we need, passes quickly and competently, and is a far better defender than Laczko. I'd worry far more about the Hungarians than I ever would about Beswick.
Tilley Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 I wouldn't have a moment's concern about starting Beswick. He's not a particularly spectacular player which is why he seems to be underrated but In four seasons I could count the number of bad games he's had on less than the fingers of one hand and I can't remember a serious cock-up at any time.Laczko or Beswick? The Hungarian wouldn't get to first base in my book. Times last night I waited for Laczko to attack the ball and play it fast. He didn't do the first at all but invariably let it bounce and his gaining control took so long his opponent had invariably nipped in first and was away and I cannot remember a telling pass all night let alone a fast one. Beswick plays football as simply as I've ever seen. He knows exactly what he's going to do before the ball arrives and does it in a blink. He must be terrific to play alongside because his fast passing always finds his team-mates a moment or two's extra time and that can be decisive for a forward. Not only that but he never makes a pass more complicated than necessary - he's like Kingy in that way. And as for his free-kicks, he's the same with those as with other aspects of his game - accurate and consistent. The reason I'd pick him assuming Hendrie is unfit, or on the bench if he's not, is simple. He's the best option we've got for what's needed and I don't harbour even a flicker of doubt about the guy any more than I would with King, Weso, Gradel or one or two more who've spent years being schooled properly. Beswick makes goals, more than occasionally scores goals, takes the quality free kicks we need, passes quickly and competently, and is a far better defender than Laczko. I'd worry far more about the Hungarians than I ever would about Beswick. Thing is, you know, I know & everybody knows, it will never happen. Holloway wont even put Beswick on the bench.
Thracian Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 It's not meant as a dig - but if only City had your talent for self promotion! :scarf:
Simon Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 AlnwickStearmanKisnorboMcAuleyMattockBellOakleyWesoHaylesHowardHumeBench: DJ, The Sappletiser, N'Gotty, Clapham, Hendo Glad everyone is now singing Barry's praises. I remember how a number of people on here moaned when we signed him but he is a model pro and never gives up. His workrate and never say die attitude exemplify what this team SHOULD be about. Everyone dreams of a team of Sir Barry Hayles'.
Tilley Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 AlnwickStearmanKisnorboMcAuleyMattockBellOakleyWesoHaylesHowardHumeBench: DJ, The Sappletiser, N'Gotty, Clapham, Hendo Glad everyone is now singing Barry's praises. I remember how a number of people on here moaned when we signed him but he is a model pro and never gives up. His workrate and never say die attitude exemplify what this team SHOULD be about. Everyone dreams of a team of Sir Barry Hayles'.
Thracian Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 Thing is, you know, I know & everybody knows, it will never happen. Holloway wont even put Beswick on the bench. I've always said his cautiousness could be his undoing. Especially if we don't deliver the passes for people to score.
The People's Hero Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 It's not meant as a dig - but if only City had your talent for self promotion! :scarf: Hear that guys? Talent. He said I had talent.
Geo V Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 Hear that guys?Talent. He said I had talent. Can you do a soft shoe shuffle like Sammie used to do?
Thracian Posted 22 April 2008 Posted 22 April 2008 Hear that guys?Talent. He said I had talent. It's a start!
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