Ratings v Birmingham

[Thracian]

Henderson 5.5 (May have been partly at fault- with others - for only parrying a shot that led to a goal but no chance with the others and nothing much to do otherwise.)

Gilbert 5 (Not impressed. Lost possession for their first goal - another defender dived in recklessly afterwards and left himself stranded - but was never a force either in defence or attack).

Tunchev 5 (First half mostly okay but second half was nowhere to be seen when it mattered. When a known quality striker can get two goals and nearly a third in 20 minutes you surely know you're doing something wrong. I don't like people playing offside and I do like em being in people's faces).

Hobbs 6.25 (Might have been the defender who dived in - I couldn't see clearly - but otherwise looked pretty sound first half against a generally unimpressive Birmingham)

Mattock 6.25 (Some good runs and support first half but let himself down a bit defensively in the second).

Adams 5 (Had the odd moment but was generally well contained).

Oakley 5.75 (Well involved but so often followed a good contribution with a bad one. Still didn't get forward enough for me nor did he control midfield and set attacks in motion enough).

Kishishev 5.75 (Worked hard and tried to make things happen but it was a fairly forgettable half and he, like others, just didn't offer enough support to the front two)

Dyer 5 (Did little of note. Had one quick shimmy and cross which mighthave produced something but was generally a peripheral figure).

Fryatt 7.5 (Great goal, some quality runs, always showed willing to take people on and might have created even more had others got in and around the box with him).

Howard 6.25 (His flick on made Fryatt's goal and he won a good share of such balls).

Subs: Gradel 8 (MoM by a distance. Made a excellent goal for Porter from nothing and had Birmingham in a bit of a panic from start to finish. If we'd had a Kevin Phillips he'd have been scoring for amusement. every time Gradel got the ball he rtried and often succeeded in doing something positive).

Ashley Chambers 6.25 (Tried to take people on and had a couple of excellent chances to score but just couldn't put them away. Just needs confidence because he's a decent finisher at his best) .

Porter 7 (Superb strike from attacking centre-midfield for his goal and generally played the ball to feet and sometimes into dangerous positions).

Morrison 6 (Excellent until Phillips came on but had to share responsibility for what happened then).

Wesolowski 6.25 (Took over where he left off at Kettering, winning possession and moving the ball around quickly. We looked much more threatening in attack second half with the changes than first. How he missed that sitter though I've no idea.)

Campbell 6.25 (Played his part in asking a lot of questions of the Birmingham defenders but he too failed to take a couple of decent opportunities).

[clazkel]

Henderson 5.5 (May have been partly at fault- with others - for only parrying a shot that led to a goal but no chance with the others and nothing much to do otherwise.)

Gilbert 5 (Not impressed. Lost possession for their first goal - another defender dived in recklessly afterwards and left himself stranded - but was never a force either in defence or attack).

Tunchev 5 (First half mostly okay but second half was nowhere to be seen when it mattered. When a known quality striker can get two goals and nearly a third in 20 minutes you surely know you're doing something wrong. I don't like people playing offside and I do like em being in people's faces).

Hobbs 6.25 (Might have been the defender who dived in - I couldn't see clearly - but otherwise looked pretty sound first half against a generally unimpressive Birmingham)

Mattock 6.25 (Some good runs and support first half but let himself down a bit defensively in the second).

Adams 5 (Had the odd moment but was generally well contained).

Oakley 5.75 (Well involved but so often followed a good contribution with a bad one. Still didn't get forward enough for me nor did he control midfield and setg attacks in motion enough).

Kishishev 5.75 (Worked hard and tried to make things happen but it was a fairly forgettable half and he, like others, just didn't offer enough support to the front two)

Dyer 5 (Did little of note. Had one quick shimmy and cross which mighthave produced something but was generally a peripheral figure).

Fryatt 7.5 (Great goal, some quality runs, always showed willing to take people on and might have created even more had others got in and around the box with him).

Howard 6.25 (His flick on made Fryatt's goal and he won a good share of such balls).

Subs: Gradel 8 (MoM by a distance. Made a excellent goal for Porter from nothing and had Birmingham in a bit of a panic from start to finish. If we'd had a Kevin Phillips he'd have been scoring for amusement. every time Gradel got the ball he rtried and often succeeded in doing something positive).

Ashley Chambers 6.25 (Tried to take people on and had a couple of excellent chances to score but just couldn't put them away. Just needs confidence because he's a decent finisher at his best) .

Porter 7 (Superb strike from attacking centre-midfield for his goal and generally played the ball to feet and sometimes into dangerous positions).

Morrison 6 (Excellent until Phillips came on but had to share responsibility for what happened then).

Wesolowski 6.75 (Took over where he left off at Kettering, winning possession and moving the ball around quickly. We looked much more threatening in attack second half with the changes than first)

Campbell 6.25 (Played his part in asking a lot of questions of the Birmingham defenders).

I thought Gilbert, Oakley and Kishishev played quite well and deserved at least a 6. Also Porters goal was superb but he didn't do anything else really so i think he deserved a 6. The rest i agree with! The team played really well! Bring on MK Dons

[Sparky]

Henderson 6

Gilbert 6

Tunchev 7

Hobbs 7

Mattock 6

Adams 5

Oakley 6

Kishishev 7

Dyer 5

Fryatt 8

Howard 6

Subs: Gradel 8

Ashley Chambers 5

Porter 7

Morrison 5

Wesolowski 6

Campbell 6

[capital_fox]

Match Ratings about right Thracian.

[Austin]

Considering what everyone else/ Radio was saying .. that doesnt sound overly impressive ..

Oh well .. we get our shit together for Mk ******.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Henderson 6

Gilbert 6

Tunchev 7

Hobbs 7

Mattock 6

Adams 5

Oakley 7

Kishishev 5

Dyer 4

Fryatt 8

Howard 6

Gradel 8

Chambers 6

Porter 6

Morrison 5

Wesolowski 6

Campbell 6

Given the quality of the opposition (bringing O'Connor, Jerome and Phillips off the bench took the piss), I thought we did well to control possession for long periods and should really have won the game but for the brilliance of Phillips and some wasteful finishing from Campbell, Chambers and Wesolowski.

[Simi]

Henderson - 6

Gilbert - 6

Tunchev - 7

Hobbs - 6.5

Mattock - 6.5

Adams - 7

Oakley - 6.5

Kishishev - 7

Dyer - 6.5

Fryatt - 7.5

Howard - 6.5

Subs

Gradel - 7.5

Campbell - 6.5

Chambers - 6

Porter - 7.5

Morrison - 6.5

Weso - 6.5

[Houdini Logic]

Oakley 7

Kishishev 5

I'm pretty sure those ratings are the wrong way round

[Fez of Mahrez]

I'm pretty sure those ratings are the wrong way round

Err... nope.

Opinion alert.

[Houdini Logic]

Err... nope.

Opinion alert.

This is what a democracy is all about...

[J.Lisemore]

Henderson - 6

Gilbert - 6

Tunchev - 7

Hobbs - 6.5

Mattock - 6.5

Adams - 7

Oakley - 6.5

Kishishev - 7

Dyer - 6.5

Fryatt - 7.5

Howard - 6.5

Subs

Gradel - 7.5

Campbell - 6.5

Chambers - 6

Porter - 7.5

Morrison - 6.5

Weso - 6.5

How could you give Adams 7...he was barely in the game

[Simi]

How could you give Adams 7...he was barely in the game

On reflection, probably a little generous, yes.

[ASH17LCFC]

How could you give Adams 7...he was barely in the game

Why does anyone bother giving ratings ? Like its his opinion not yours.

[Milky]

Henderson - 5

Gilbert - 5

Tunchev - 6.5

Hobbs - 6

Mattock - 6.5

Adams - 5.5

Oakley - 6

Kishishev - 6

Dyer - 5.5

Fryatt - 7.5

Howard - 5

Subs

Gradel - 7.5

Campbell - 6

Chambers - 6

Porter - 7

Morrison - 6

Weso - 6.5

[Finn Claw]

Why does anyone bother giving ratings ? Like its his opinion not yours.

the more opinions you read the better idea you get as to a consesus view. For a fox banished to the big smoke it at least indicates who played well.

[ASH17LCFC]

the more opinions you read the better idea you get as to a consesus view. For a fox banished to the big smoke it at least indicates who played well.

Ok good point, Dyer was poor.

[Finn Claw]

from the look of things Gradel and Fryatt had a good game. Both of which I'm happy with

[Jonbluefox9]

I don't like giving ratings out of ten so I'll just write something about each player.

Henderson- Didn't do much wrong imo. Had no chance of holding the original shot that led to their opener, not sure where he was for their second as I was at the opposite end and had a poor view of the action.

Gilbert- Didn't get involved much at all, very quiet game in general.

Tunchev- Looked good in the air but his positional sense wasn't the best. Looks a bit off the pace at the moment but showed signs that he has good timing in his tackles and an aerial presence.

Hobbs- Looked solid. Similar to Tunchev but looked more up to the pace of the game.

Mattock- Showed his ability going forward in the first half and even improvement in the defensive side of his game with strength and timing in the tackle. Got dragged inside for their first goal a little. Needs to be more aware of what's going on around him imo. Always looking to overlap though and if he takes more care over his final ball into the box, he could be very dangerous next season for us (if he stays).

Adams- Didn't show much apart from a couple of decent balls into the box, one with his left foot. Felt that the game bypassed him a little bit and very few attacks went through him which is a shame because he impressed me against Hinckley.

Oakley- Showed good energy levels but still struggling to see what he brings to the table! No outstanding distribution, didn't get into the final third on many occasions as far as I can remember and doesn't regain possession for us through his work. I'm sure he has quality within him but it's not shining through so far for me

Kishishev- Similar to Oakley. Puts himself about but not sure he knows what to do when he has the ball at his feet. Central midfield is worrying me slightly if I'm honest.

Dyer- Similar to Adams. Full of running but very rarely had the ball at his feet whilst doing so. Fired a couple of decent crosses overbut didn't find himself in and around the box often enough for me.

Fryatt- Showed what he's all about when fit. Looked to take the ball forwards with his close control and dribbling ability, linked up well with the midfield and got himself into some good positions. Frustrates me how his best work still seems to take place a long way away from goal and his lack of pace means that he struggles to get into the box when it matters most but scored a cracking goal from distance tonight. I'd said to my mate earlier, Fryatt never scores from outside the area (apart from one I remember seeing from his Walsall days) and then he pulled that out of the bag which, if not outside the box, was very close to being so.

Howard- Needs to show more strength for me. Was going down very easily in search of free-kicks that didn't always come his way. I think he looked better than the back end of last season but really needs a striker to feed off him. Fryatt comes looking for the ball and this isolates Howard when we go direct.

Gradel- Showed what he's about. Always looking to get balls into the box and take on his man. His delivery is far from perfect but more often than not found the feet of a team mate. Good to see him vary the height of his crosses as well. A good ball in doesn't have to be aerial every time. Also saw the bad side of his game at times. Pearson had to tell him to be quiet when he was moaning at the ref. I'm pleased to say Gradel acknowledged that he was in the wrong and shut-up. Still sulks a little bit when team mates don't use him but it doesn't seem as big a problem as it was a season ago. Poor free-kick in the dying moments of the game from him, possibly because he's on a wavelength of his own. Very impressed though, he seems to have matured no end.

Chambers- Don't think he should be used as an out-and-out striker just yet. Had an opportunity to beat the keeper one-on-one but he wasn't decisive enough with his finish. Best used as a winger imo but may struggle to get in the first team as one of them judging by our squad at the moment.

Porter- Lovely strike from him. Seemed to struggle a little when he came on but did get on the ball more than Adams and Dyer while they were on the pitch. Showed that he is useful defensively with some good tracking back after losing possession.

Morrison- Seemed solid enough to me. I was a long away from him when he was on the pitch though which may be why. His distribution isn't as good as Hobbs and Tunchev as far as I could tell but seems equally able in the air.

Wesolowski- Did the simple things right apart from one ball to Gradel and got in a good attacking position to try and finish the rebound from Chambers' saved one-on-one. Fluffed his lines on that occasion though. Would love to see this lad be able to pass a ball forwards and he would be gem. Don't think he's got that in his locker unfortunately.

Campbell- Full of running but lack of confidence when in goalscoring positions. Needs to show something fast because I'm struggling to see why we paid as much as we did for him. Birmingham fans were singing his name but can't see our fans doing so until he starts playing like a striker. Don't want to be too critical. He won a few free-kicks with his running at defenders. I thought he was meant to have decent pace though but he doesn't seem willing to use it. Might seem a bit of a contradiction but there's nothing electric about him, just running.

Nothing to get down about though. Decent display with positives such as Fryatt, Gradel and Mattock going forwards but still plenty of question marks for me such as Howard, Campbell and Oakley. Need to see something from them to make me think we've got the experience to compliment some of our younger talent.

[Bert]

Hendo 5 - Had 4 shots at him all game, let in 3 and only just manged to save the other.

Gilbert 6 - Always up someone's backside, but still quiet.

Mattock 6.5 - Slow starting again, but as the game went on, he got better.

Hobbs 7 - Really Impressed so far, commanding, strong talks a lot.

Tunchev 6.5 - His first game on English soil. Started a bit shaky, you can see when he's settled in, he'll be a top defender.

Adams 5 - One telling cross was his main contribution.

Dyer 5 - The man works hard, drifts in and out of games.

Oakley 6.5 - Works hard, very slick passing, always there to offer an option.

Kish 6.5 - Will be key to helping Tunchev, As I've said before, why he played as little games for us last season as he did, especially when we had a right back at centre midfield is beyond me.

Howard 6 - Won a few headers and seem to link up well with Fryatt, I'm still yet to see his "Derby form" for us.

Fryatt 8 - Looked brilliant, chased lost causes, ran the channels, linked up, brought others into play, and scored with a sublime left foot curling shot.

Dj 7 - Very lively, although he had not much chance of winning things he still tried, very aware of things, tried bringing others into play.

Chambers 6 - Always looking to attack, his pace is immense, unlucky not to score.

Levi 6 - A great finish, with some neat and tidy work.

Jimbo 6 - Wasn't up to par, but still out in a decent shift.

Morrison 5 - If we could play headball, he'd be great, sadly a lack of pace and general awareness will halt this man's career.

Gradel 8 - Every time he got the ball he looked dangerous, made David Murphy look a mug, not afraid in the physical battle either. If we had someone in the box who could attack and head the ball with meaning, he may have had another assist.

[the manc]

whats with the .25 and .75s? its either a 6 7 or 8 at a pinch you can use a .5 but its like ordering a steak and asking for it not rare but not medium rare but some where in between not on!

[renards]

Henderson 5.5 (May have been partly at fault- with others - for only parrying a shot that led to a goal but no chance with the others and nothing much to do otherwise.)

Gilbert 5 (Not impressed. Lost possession for their first goal - another defender dived in recklessly afterwards and left himself stranded - but was never a force either in defence or attack).

Tunchev 5 (First half mostly okay but second half was nowhere to be seen when it mattered. When a known quality striker can get two goals and nearly a third in 20 minutes you surely know you're doing something wrong. I don't like people playing offside and I do like em being in people's faces).

Hobbs 6.25 (Might have been the defender who dived in - I couldn't see clearly - but otherwise looked pretty sound first half against a generally unimpressive Birmingham)

Mattock 6.25 (Some good runs and support first half but let himself down a bit defensively in the second).

Adams 5 (Had the odd moment but was generally well contained).

Oakley 5.75 (Well involved but so often followed a good contribution with a bad one. Still didn't get forward enough for me nor did he control midfield and set attacks in motion enough).

Kishishev 5.75 (Worked hard and tried to make things happen but it was a fairly forgettable half and he, like others, just didn't offer enough support to the front two)

Dyer 5 (Did little of note. Had one quick shimmy and cross which mighthave produced something but was generally a peripheral figure).

Fryatt 7.5 (Great goal, some quality runs, always showed willing to take people on and might have created even more had others got in and around the box with him).

Howard 6.25 (His flick on made Fryatt's goal and he won a good share of such balls).

Subs: Gradel 8 (MoM by a distance. Made a excellent goal for Porter from nothing and had Birmingham in a bit of a panic from start to finish. If we'd had a Kevin Phillips he'd have been scoring for amusement. every time Gradel got the ball he rtried and often succeeded in doing something positive).

Ashley Chambers 6.25 (Tried to take people on and had a couple of excellent chances to score but just couldn't put them away. Just needs confidence because he's a decent finisher at his best) .

Porter 7 (Superb strike from attacking centre-midfield for his goal and generally played the ball to feet and sometimes into dangerous positions).

Morrison 6 (Excellent until Phillips came on but had to share responsibility for what happened then).

Wesolowski 6.25 (Took over where he left off at Kettering, winning possession and moving the ball around quickly. We looked much more threatening in attack second half with the changes than first. How he missed that sitter though I've no idea.)

Campbell 6.25 (Played his part in asking a lot of questions of the Birmingham defenders but he too failed to take a couple of decent opportunities).

Agree particulary with the Howard rating, many have slated him, I didn't think he did that bad.

Would of liked to see what he would of done with the much improved service fronm the wingers in the second half, I fear though that Gradel was getting forward so quick that Howard wouldn't be there to meet the ball. Worth a shot though

Your comments about not seeing Hobbs, wasn't due to the fat bird with the red hair leaving her seat throughout the game was it?

[Thracian]

Agree particulary with the Howard rating, many have slated him, I didn't think he did that bad.

Would of liked to see what he would of done with the much improved service fronm the wingers in the second half, I fear though that Gradel was getting forward so quick that Howard wouldn't be there to meet the ball. Worth a shot though

Your comments about not seeing Hobbs, wasn't due to the fat bird with the red hair leaving her seat throughout the game was it?

Seems she certainly got noticed. Her urchin was no better. Mind you there was a little fella in front of me all last season who got so canned before every match he was literally up and down three or four times a half and could only have seen about a quarter of the football all year.

[teblin]

Henderson 6 didn't do too much wrong, not sure if he should've done better on the first goal.

Gilbert 6 Looked quick, at fault fo the first goal though.

Tunchev 6.5 Though he did alright, won the ball in the air read the game fairly well. Looked a bit off the pace at time but has had less games.

Hobbs 6.5 (Steady, decent on the ball, good in the air)

Mattock 5 (Ok going forward but both goals in the second half came down his side, he just can't deal with that diagonal ball can he? we need a left back whether he stays or not)I realise one of the goals was a corner but it was won from a diagonal ball.

Adams 6 (Had a decent touch, didn't give the ball away, but didn't really do too much).

Oakley 6 (did fairly well linked up well with both partners in the centre).

Kishishev 6 (Worked hard, harried tried to get involved in the game)

Dyer 5.5 (Not really in the game, one great cross at the end of the first half, works hard though).

Fryatt 8 (Thought he has a great first half, looked sharp, held the ball, good runs and spread the play well).

Howard 6 (Won his fair share in the air, once him and fryatt were gone the ball came back too easily).

Subs: Gradel 8.5 (Very Impress, always looked to beat the full back, and quite often did, great crossing, work rate and pace.)

Ashley Chambers 6. (Worked hard, looked very quick, should've scored) .

Porter 6.75 (Great finish, played a good through ball to chambers too, decent little display).

Morrison 7 (Was impressed with him, won everything in the air, read the game well).

Wesolowski 6.75 (worked hard, got stuck in, he made us play with a better tempo.)

Campbell 6(Looked quick, but should pulled the trigger earlier on 2 or 3 occasions).

[johnnycash]

Henderson 5 - Need a new keeper desperately. Not commanding enough and should have done better on first goal

Gilbert 4 - Not impressed. Poor positionally and apart from one ocassion gave very poor support to the player in front. It was a shame J. Chambers was injured - a much better option.

Tunchev 6 - I think will get better with games

Hobbs 6.5 - Steady, decent on the ball, good in the air

Mattock 6 - Good start, but not as commanding or as involved as I would have liked

Adams 5.5 - Has played a lot better in recent matches. Maybe as little nervous. I think from what I've seen he has the technique to be be a very good player in the years ahead. Didn't show that tonight though

Oakley - 6 did fairly well linked up well with both partners in the centre. I'm still not convinced by him though

Kishishev- 6 Did his job effectively, but slowed tempo down when not required.

Dyer 5.5 - Typical league one/two wide player. Quick but no quality!

Fryatt - 8 MoM in the first half. Back to his very best. His movement off the shoulder of the defenders, and his well timed runs were top draw. Performances like this will see him score 20 goals this season. Great goal too!

Howard 6 (Won his fair share in the air, once him and fryatt were gone the ball came back too easily).

Howard - 6 Very unpopular I know, but did enough to suggest that he and Matty are the best partnership at present. He didn't do a lot wrong, and linked up well with Fryatt

Subs: Gradel 8 MoM in the Second half. Temprament and decision making still need to improve. However, he looks like the first real right-winger at the club since Steve Lynex!

Ashley Chambers 6. Would like to see him play off a target man. But a reasonable show

Porter 6.5 Great finish, played some decent balls through to be people. Probaly not fully match sharpe yet after long lay off, but could feature strongly this season.

Morrison 5.5 Not as strong as Hobbs. His passing alos needs to improve. Like Worley though he is a decent prospect.

Wesolowski 6.5 Worked hard, got stuck in, he made us play with a better tempo. Would start him in idfiled, despite that terrible miss!

Campbell 6.5 Bright and energetic. Looked up for it, and that has to be a good sign. Definetly an impact player from the bench though!

Overall - 6. A little worried about our back line. We are leaking goals too easily. On this evening's show we have a chance of the play-offs, but look far from being solid enough to be definite automatic promotion challenges. We need more height and strength in the side, although there does seem to be more pace in the team. Still no one in midfield who can command in the air, which means we will struggle to get enough of the ball to play through our more technically gifted players. You have to fight to win your right to play football in league one, and we may struggle to do that. We look like we could get bullied. Work still to be done!

[MikeyT]

Henderson 6

Gilbert 6

Tunchev 7

Hobbs 7

Mattock 6

Adams 5

Oakley 7

Kishishev 5

Dyer 4

Fryatt 8

Howard 6

Gradel 8

Chambers 6

Porter 6

Morrison 5

Wesolowski 6

Campbell 6

Given the quality of the opposition (bringing O'Connor, Jerome and Phillips off the bench took the piss), I thought we did well to control possession for long periods and should really have won the game but for the brilliance of Phillips and some wasteful finishing from Campbell, Chambers and Wesolowski.

Id agree with all that but Oakley shouldnt be a 7 id say 5.5/6 for him. And Kishishev about a 7 as i thought he was great during the first half when he played.