Bullard in England Squad

[eye666]

I wouldn't play lampard period. He's over-rated,

Central midfield would be barry and gerrard.

And Gerrard isn't over-rated? Fair enough he might play well for Liverpool, but for England he is absolutely gash. Think the last time he had a good game was the last time we played Andorra. Apart from that he's shit - no passion, no hunger and no leadership, which is what is expected of him (esp. when he was captain). Before someone brings up the notion that he's played out of position etc. and therefore doesn't play well, that is bollocks as well as he's played in the centre many times and has been crap. I think him playing in the Liverpool match last week and having the surgery now shows that he puts club before country. No doubt he'll be back for the Man Utd game in a few weeks. Either be proud to play for your country or fook off Gerrard, silly scouse bastard. Bring in the Bullard!

p.s. sorry for the rant - I hate Gerrard

[General Smuts]

Exceptional cameraman.

[lildave3]

I wouldn't even have Rooney in the squad. He refuses to be what his teams need him to be and he just looks a waste of a player everytime I see him play, we don't need him as a defensive midfielder we need him as a striker, or as a Totti style player. Owen and Ashton should be in, Walcott is a winger IMO and we have better wingers at that.

At full strength England should play this;

Green

Richards Ferdinand Woodgate Cole

Hargreaves

Bentley Cole Gerrard Young

Owen

You cannot play Owen up front on his own, it will not work.

If you're playing Bentley, Young and Owen then you HAVE to have a big man to win headers, like Heskey or Ashton.

[Tommy G]

Bullard can fu ck off. Things haven't worked in the middle of the park in the past but Bullard just isn't up to it quality wise.

I'd stick with Gerrard in the middle with Hargreaves his partner, drop lamps and get Barry out the frame.

[filbertway]

I love how everybody almsot has a different opinion and then states it like their opinion is fact

[davieG]

I love how everybody almsot has a different opinion and then states it like their opinion is fact

Is that a fact?

[Corky]

I love how everybody almsot has a different opinion and then states it like their opinion is fact

My comments are fact, so fact off!

[Uncle Albert]

And Gerrard isn't over-rated? Fair enough he might play well for Liverpool, but for England he is absolutely gash. Think the last time he had a good game was the last time we played Andorra. Apart from that he's shit - no passion, no hunger and no leadership, which is what is expected of him (esp. when he was captain). Before someone brings up the notion that he's played out of position etc. and therefore doesn't play well, that is bollocks as well as he's played in the centre many times and has been crap. I think him playing in the Liverpool match last week and having the surgery now shows that he puts club before country. No doubt he'll be back for the Man Utd game in a few weeks. Either be proud to play for your country or fook off Gerrard, silly scouse bastard. Bring in the Bullard!

p.s. sorry for the rant - I hate Gerrard

What a clown.

Your last words say it all, if you are happy to have some a centre midfielder who was made to look pretty ordinary by Andy King and Weso then more fool you. Bullard in an England shirt is a disgrace to some quality English players in the Premier League.

[Corky]

What a clown.

Your last words say it all, if you are happy to have some a centre midfielder who was made to look pretty ordinary by Andy King and Weso then more fool you. Bullard in an England shirt is a disgrace to some quality English players in the Premier League.

Why don't we see how he does before judging him good enough or not good enough for England?

[Uncle Albert]

Why don't we see how he does before judging him good enough or not good enough for England?

Because Capello is leaving better players in form out of the squad to bring in third rate players like Bullard.

[eye666]

What a clown.

Your last words say it all, if you are happy to have some a centre midfielder who was made to look pretty ordinary by Andy King and Weso then more fool you. Bullard in an England shirt is a disgrace to some quality English players in the Premier League.

I was by no means intimating that Bullard should be a regular. However, for this match there are many injured players in midfield so why not give the guy a game? I'm sure Bullard would put in far more effort than Gerrard and others who get into the team not on merit but on name and reputation because he would have something to prove. Bullard is a good Premier League player. Not world class, but solid. Bring him on as a sub maybe. I think you mistook my comment to mean that Bullard should be an England regular which he quite clearly should not be. But Gerrard would rather play for Liverpool than England, that is quite clear to see, which begs the question of who is A. good enough and B. willing to put in the effort and heart to play for England. I'm pissed off that Gerrard would rather sit out an England game so that he can be fit for a Liverpool game (albeit against Man Utd.) If he doesn't want to play for England in any and every game then he should not be in the team. Besides, when he does play he's crap and often disappears for large periods of time. Which brings us back to the argument that was had last year of players putting more effort in for club over country.

edit: Who has he left out to bring Bullard in? Hargreaves, Carrick and Gerrard are injured aren't they? Granted he left Owen out, but surely he should have been in for Walcott. Only possibility for midfield would be Young who is a completely different player - he was left out in favour of Downing. Who would you have brought in instead?

[Simi]

You cannot play Owen up front on his own, it will not work.

If you're playing Bentley, Young and Owen then you HAVE to have a big man to win headers, like Heskey or Ashton.

No you don't.

You can attempt to play some half decent football on the floor and utilise Owen in the way he should be. In behind defenders and poaching in the box. Fed up of this big man shite as we can't play it well enough to make it worthwhile.

Why the English are so obsessed in having a physical big target man I'll never know.

[Uncle Albert]

I was by no means intimating that Bullard should be a regular. However, for this match there are many injured players in midfield so why not give the guy a game? I'm sure Bullard would put in far more effort than Gerrard and others who get into the team not on merit but on name and reputation because he would have something to prove. Bullard is a good Premier League player. Not world class, but solid. Bring him on as a sub maybe. I think you mistook my comment to mean that Bullard should be an England regular which he quite clearly should not be. But Gerrard would rather play for Liverpool than England, that is quite clear to see, which begs the question of who is A. good enough and B. willing to put in the effort and heart to play for England. I'm pissed off that Gerrard would rather sit out an England game so that he can be fit for a Liverpool game (albeit against Man Utd.) If he doesn't want to play for England in any and every game then he should not be in the team. Besides, when he does play he's crap and often disappears for large periods of time. Which brings us back to the argument that was had last year of players putting more effort in for club over country.

edit: Who has he left out to bring Bullard in? Hargreaves, Carrick and Gerrard are injured aren't they? Granted he left Owen out, but surely he should have been in for Walcott. Only possibility for midfield would be Young who is a completely different player - he was left out in favour of Downing. Who would you have brought in instead?

Ashley Young, Mark Noble, Scott Parker or Nigel Reo-Coker OR the main man himself Joey 'Pride of Britain' Barton.

[lildave3]

No you don't.

You can attempt to play some half decent football on the floor and utilise Owen in the way he should be. In behind defenders and poaching in the box. Fed up of this big man shite as we can't play it well enough to make it worthwhile.

Why the English are so obsessed in having a physical big target man I'll never know.

Well when you have 2 fantastic crossers of the ball, surely it makes sense?

Owen thrives off a big man too, so that's also utilising him in the way he should be.

[Simi]

Well when you have 2 fantastic crossers of the ball, surely it makes sense?

Owen thrives off a big man too, so that's also utilising him in the way he should be.

It's not essential by any means, we haven't got one that it good enough anyway so it's irrelvant. That's my main issue, picking players 'cos they're big and will win headers, fact is, Ashton isn't good enough and nor is Heskey.

Owen seems to have scored more headers than any big man has done for Newcastle since Shearer? Viduka has been injured/poor at Newcastle, I can't remember another big man Owen has played with? Seems to have done ok...

[dandannieldanok]

Is the Croatia game home or away?

[Uncle Albert]

Is the Croatia game home or away?

Away.

[dandannieldanok]

Away.

We're ****ed

[lildave3]

It's not essential by any means, we haven't got one that it good enough anyway so it's irrelvant. That's my main issue, picking players 'cos they're big and will win headers, fact is, Ashton isn't good enough and nor is Heskey.

Owen seems to have scored more headers than any big man has done for Newcastle since Shearer? Viduka has been injured/poor at Newcastle, I can't remember another big man Owen has played with? Seems to have done ok...

His best years in his career have been alongside Heskey, for club and country.

[Uncle Albert]

We're ****ed

Can see him ramming the shite midfield with Barry, Lampard and Jenas and playing Rooney up top by himself.

Playing for a point.

[dandannieldanok]

Can see him ramming the shite midfield with Barry, Lampard and Jenas and playing Rooney up top by himself.

Playing for a point.

Yep agreed, likely to result in a 1-0 or 2-0 defeat with practically no sniff of a goal.

[Simi]

His best years in his career have been alongside Heskey, for club and country.

They were his best years in general when he was at his peak, ripping defenders apart with his pace, although I'm not denying Heskey helped, because he did.

[JakeShingler]

Couldnt be more happy for him after seeing him on Wednesday night.

[Joe.]

I've got to agree with Ben, Ched, I don't think Owen on his own would work up front at all. Personally I'd love to see him start up front alongside Heskey or Crouch, particularly Heskey who he's forged a fantastic partnership with over the years.

I agree with you not wanting the team to have the temptations of simply using somebody like Heskey or Crouch as a target man, but it doesn't have to be that way. As Ben said, when you have crossers of the ball like we do, players like them can be lethal in and around the box.

All in all, I can't see a Heskey-Owen partnership in the forseeable future, both seem down the pecking order currently.

[Simi]

I've got to agree with Ben, Ched, I don't think Owen on his own would work up front at all. Personally I'd love to see him start up front alongside Heskey or Crouch, particularly Heskey who he's forged a fantastic partnership with over the years.

I agree with you not wanting the team to have the temptations of simply using somebody like Heskey or Crouch as a target man, but it doesn't have to be that way. As Ben said, when you have crossers of the ball like we do, players like them can be lethal in and around the box.

All in all, I can't see a Heskey-Owen partnership in the forseeable future, both seem down the pecking order currently.

I didn't say he should be up front on his own, I don't agree with that.

The thing that gets me is this big man fascination we seem to have, when in cold daylight, surely you and I know that Heskey can no longer cut it at International Level and Ashton has a long way to go before being able to get in the starting XI.

You're right, it doesn't have to be like that. But I've seen enough England peformances over the past years to be able to say that it WILL be like that. Big strikers are an excuse for shit wingers. If Bentley and Young are going to be good enough then they'll have the talent to drop inside and put some good balls in for the likes of Owen and whoever partners him.