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Why can't we go 4-3-3, Villa style, with Berner as some sort of a holding midfielder. And that would then release Oakley, and more importantly Andy King.

Henderson



Edworthy - Tunchev - Hobbs - Mattock

Oakley - Berner - King

Fryatt - Howard - Dyer

I don't know, it's an option I suppose. Otherwise we can just go back to our normal 4-4-2.

Posted
Why can't we go 4-3-3, Villa style, with Berner as some sort of a holding midfielder. And that would then release Oakley, and more importantly Andy King.

Henderson



Edworthy - Tunchev - Hobbs - Mattock

Oakley - Berner - King

Fryatt - Howard - Dyer

I don't know, it's an option I suppose. Otherwise we can just go back to our normal 4-4-2.

It's quite an interesting idea but I could see us losing some pace and penetration down the right, particularly with Edworthy not being a raiding wing-back and I've yet to be convinced about Berner.

Against that King and Oakley would surely benefit from some help on the defensive side and I'm sure there would be benefits from their having more freedom to support our strikers.

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Hendo

Edworthy

Mattock

Morisson

Tunch

Gradel

Dyer

Oakley

King

Fryatt

Howard

Martin

Hobbs

Adams

DJ

Dickov

Bang on, would rather have BArry on the bench instead of DJ tho'

Posted
Bang on, would rather have BArry on the bench instead of DJ tho'

:mellow:

I was not pleased with your constant bad mouthing of DJ on Saturday, don't start again!

:whistle:

Posted

I would like to see Oakley getting forward again, and when he was on the right it seemed to give him more of a free role:

Hendo



Edworthy Tunchev Morrison Powell

Oakley Adams King Dyer

Fryatt Hayles

Subs: Howard, Dickov, Berner, Hobbs, Martin

Posted

PAUL HENDERSON

JOE MATTOCK

ALEX TUNCHEV

MICHAEL MORRISON :o

MARC EDWORTHY

NICKY ADAMS

MATT OAKLEY

ANDY KING

LLOYD DYER

STEVE HOWARD

MATTY FRYATT

SUBS:

MARTIN

DICKOV

CAMPBELL

GRADEL

BERNER

Posted

Paul Henderson

Marc Edworthy

Alex Tunchev

Michael Morrison

Joe Mattock

Nicky Adams

Matt Oakley

Andy King

Llyod Dyer

Matt Fryatt

Steve Howard

Anyone know where Kishishev is, could he do a defensive/holding role?

Or is he just shite?

'Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today'

Posted
Paul Henderson

Marc Edworthy

Alex Tunchev

Michael Morrison

Joe Mattock

Nicky Adams

Matt Oakley

Andy King

Llyod Dyer

Matt Fryatt

Steve Howard

Anyone know where Kishishev is, could he do a defensive/holding role?

Or is he just shite?

'Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today'

Kishishev is a pre-season footballer. A bit like a pacemaker in athletics. He turns out in the warm summer months rather like the Chelsea Pensioners appear at Remembrance Day and once the season starts he quietly disappears until the next pre-season.

It's quite a good arrangement all round. By his presence, City demonstrate their support for government directives about not outing veteran players just because of their age. Kish meanwhile enjoys a decent standard of living, doesn't wear himself out and develops an alternative career as a translator for Tunchev. :D

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Kishishev is a pre-season footballer. A bit like a pacemaker in athletics. He turns out in the warm summer months rather like the Chelsea Pensioners appear at Remembrance Day and once the season starts he quietly disappears until the next pre-season.

It's quite a good arrangement all round. By his presence, City demonstrate their support for government directives about not outing veteran players just because of their age. Kish meanwhile enjoys a decent standard of living, doesn't wear himself out and develops an alternative career as a translator for Tunchev. :D

Very good :thumbup: .

Posted

Henderson



Edworthy - Tunchev - Hobbs - Mattock

Oakley - Berner - King

Fryatt - Howard - Dyer

When we kicked off on Saturday, I'm sure this is how we started, and it resulted in us not having the ball for 20 minutes. When Oakley swapped with King, we went back to 4-4-2, which clearly worked a lot better! We'd definitely need a lot of work to play 4-3-3, and a much better holding player than Berner.

Posted
When we kicked off on Saturday, I'm sure this is how we started, and it resulted in us not having the ball for 20 minutes. When Oakley swapped with King, we went back to 4-4-2, which clearly worked a lot better! We'd definitely need a lot of work to play 4-3-3, and a much better holding player than Berner.

I can see Berner going the same way as James Chambers at this rate. Too versatile for his own good.

Posted
When we kicked off on Saturday, I'm sure this is how we started, and it resulted in us not having the ball for 20 minutes. When Oakley swapped with King, we went back to 4-4-2, which clearly worked a lot better! We'd definitely need a lot of work to play 4-3-3, and a much better holding player than Berner.

no on saturday we started with King on the right of a 4-4-2, then he swapped with Oakley who was based on the right but had kind of a free role from there, which is why I want the same midfield tonight as Berner doing the sitting role allowed Oakley to roam and King to have more freedom to get forward as well

Posted
When we kicked off on Saturday, I'm sure this is how we started, and it resulted in us not having the ball for 20 minutes. When Oakley swapped with King, we went back to 4-4-2, which clearly worked a lot better! We'd definitely need a lot of work to play 4-3-3, and a much better holding player than Berner.

Agree completely. But now Mattock and Edworthy seem to be established as the full-backs the problem of work overload for the central midfielders should be eased.

Even though not operating as real wing backs these two move forward willingly enough and, more important, are comfortable receiving the ball and are well able to pass to feet in continuing the moves.

Indeed it was a feature of our game how well and how many times we passed the ball along the ground once the team had reorganised and settled.

Posted
Agree completely. But now Mattock and Edworthy seem to be established as the full-backs the problem of work overload for the central midfielders should be eased.

Even though not operating as real wing backs these two move forward willingly enough and, more important, are comfortable receiving the ball and are well able to pass to feet in continuing the moves.

Indeed it was a feature of our game how well and how many times we passed the ball along the ground once the team had reorganised and settled.

Keeping the ball on the floor and building attacks through midfield is definitely the way forward. Not totally happy with the personel and formation on saturday but it was better than the predictable, rigid 4-4-2 we have been playing recently.

Maybe play Oakley holding, King and Adams further forward and the same front 3 as saturday?

BTW I was impressed with Howard, seems to be a better player with the ball on the ground! (And I am NOT his biggest fan)

Posted
Keeping the ball on the floor and building attacks through midfield is definitely the way forward. Not totally happy with the personel and formation on saturday but it was better than the predictable, rigid 4-4-2 we have been playing recently.

Maybe play Oakley holding, King and Adams further forward and the same front 3 as saturday?

BTW I was impressed with Howard, seems to be a better player with the ball on the ground! (And I am NOT his biggest fan)

Not sure but I think Pearson likes Kingy in the holding role not just because he's a tidy and generally reliable passer, but because he's uite strong in the air, something that's not regarded as a strength of either Oakley or Weso.

You'd have thought Berner would fit that bill too but nothing I've yet seen suggests he has the distributive presence of King whch is a pity because that would open up some options when we need them.

Posted
Not sure but I think Pearson likes Kingy in the holding role not just because he's a tidy and generally reliable passer, but because he's uite strong in the air, something that's not regarded as a strength of either Oakley or Weso.

You'd have thought Berner would fit that bill too but nothing I've yet seen suggests he has the distributive presence of King whch is a pity because that would open up some options when we need them.

The lack of a genuine, quality holding player requires that both our centre mid players, whatever the pairing, are sound defensively which is one possible reason why a more attacking option such as Adams or Porter has not been tried.

One answer is to play a 3 man midfield, yet we really have few options in this area. King, Oakley and Adams would seem to be our best bet with either King or Oakley holding but I really do not think that either of them are sufficiently strong defensively to do the job on their own. (The horror of the Brighton game keeps coming back to me, with King being overwhelmed when Berners went missing in the second half.)

Personally I think the King / Oakley pairing is sound defensively, providing, of course, we continue to play the ball out of defence and do not resort to the long ball. The 3 players supporting Howard really need to loosen up and get more involved, they need to move about and show for the ball, this will give our midfield options when it comes to playing the ball into attacking positions.

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