Thracian Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Whilst I agree with most you say I am far from convinced that the side is any better than last year. S****horpe sold their best player kept the rest and manager and still doing as well as us . I dont think we would be doing any worse if we had done like S****horpe . Could you see this side winning 4-1 at West Brom or playing like we did at Chelsea . When Mick Adams came down he kept the same team got promoted highest gates for 50 years and only lost 5 games all season so it is not unrealistic for us only to lose 2 or 3 games all season Some interesting points. It's not something that will ever be proved one way or another but, while I'd say we carry more threat from the flanks with Dyer/Gradel/Adams and more creativity in midfield, that may be an effect of the lower grade and you may well be right. In any case we seem to have at least temporarily abandoned the idea of having two specialist wingers and must wait to see if that coincides with genuinely better results.
The Stig Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Pearson out?!Bore off dick. I dispair with our fans I really do.
Daggers Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Whilst I don't agree with Pearson out, some of the reaction to this post is damn right out of order. Whether or not it's a piss take, this poster has the right to his opinion and if he thinks that Pearson should be out does not give any of you the right to chastise the post the way you have, instead of calling someone a dick or a tosser, state your reason like the original poster did for wanting Pearson out. Your like a f00king bunch of women, once one starts you all start. I'd liken it to bully boy tactics in a play ground. To call someone a 'C[_]NT.' (to name but a few choice words) for having an opinion is damn right childish and out of order. You need to watch out - you'll hurt yourself falling off that pedestal. Championing the rights of idiots to come out with nonsense is fine and well but that means you have to allow other idiots the right to respond in whatever fashion they deem fit. Does the irony not slap you in the face when you use terms of abuse to denigrate those who use terms of abuse? Personally I find your insulting attitude towards women more offensive than anything else written in this thread.
Zingari Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 You need to watch out - you'll hurt yourself falling off that pedestal. Championing the rights of idiots to come out with nonsense is fine and well but that means you have to allow other idiots the right to respond in whatever fashion they deem fit. Does the irony not slap you in the face when you use terms of abuse to denigrate those who use terms of abuse? Personally I find your insulting attitude towards women more offensive than anything else written in this thread. agreed ; he's talking like a right poof
act smiley Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 That's the impression I got for 80 minutes but not for the last 10. Several fans referred to us sitting back at the end and getting arrogant. Be nice to know the truth of it. We didn't sit back as such, we were still making attacking moves, but just got cocky and left ourselves ridiculously exposed - if anything its worse than simply bunkering in and doing it badly, really - we only really seemed to do the going too deep in a mad panic after their first, which had blatantly been coming for about five minutes before that.
clazkel Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Pearson is the man for the job there is no doubting that, but afew of the last games i have been alittle worried, as we don't finish games off when we should. Against Brighton 2-0 up and we lose 3-2, against Yeovil the last 10 mins was edgey yet we controlled the game for 80 minutes and against Swindon being 2-0 up we shouldn't have let them back in the game. We sit back abit too much as times (or become quite lazy) when we should carry on attacking. Maybe subs need to be made sooner, as Pearson at times seems reluctant to change things at pivitol moments in the game. I am not criticising Pearson, i think he's doing a great job but there's certain things that do worry me.
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 I havent read the last 6 pages of posts canna be arsed to look through but all i can say is ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH!. YES....I have/will boo the team incl pearson with poor performances this season No...i and possibly 95% of city fans want pearson out i think hes been one of the better managers with had since Plank O' Taylor and hasnt come anywehre near getting the sack were top 6 and lost 2 MADNESS
Fosse Boy Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 I havent read the last 6 pages of posts canna be arsed to look through but all i can say isARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH!. YES....I have/will boo the team incl pearson with poor performances this season No...i and possibly 95% of city fans want pearson out i think hes been one of the better managers with had since Plank O' Taylor and hasnt come anywehre near getting the sack were top 6 and lost 2 MADNESS a) I hope that's just a typo and you mean 'don't want Pearson out'! b) I would hope that it's more than 95% of us who still think he's doing a good job! :city:
fox123 Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 You need to watch out - you'll hurt yourself falling off that pedestal. Championing the rights of idiots to come out with nonsense is fine and well but that means you have to allow other idiots the right to respond in whatever fashion they deem fit. Does the irony not slap you in the face when you use terms of abuse to denigrate those who use terms of abuse? Personally I find your insulting attitude towards women more offensive than anything else written in this thread. The Pied Piper himself. You need to watch out - you'll hurt yourself falling off that pedestal. Yea sorry forgot the Pedestal was only big enough for you. Championing the rights of idiots to come out with nonsense is fine and well but that means you have to allow other idiots the right to respond in whatever fashion they deem fit. Does the irony not slap you in the face when you use terms of abuse to denigrate those who use terms of abuse? I didn't agree with him saying Pearson out, I was saying it was an over reaction for what he was being called. Personally I find your insulting attitude towards women more offensive than anything else written in this thread. Yet you use the word C[_]NT so loosely. Maybe that's how you like it.
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 Yes sorry it was a VERY bad typo,i ment that 95% of fans dont want him out i think hes doing a excellent job for 80mins just need to work out them last 10.
Ultra Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 The fact is, there are a lot of folk on here who are not capable of building a reasoned argument. So they resort to abuse instead. The call for Pearson's head is an understandable (though unfair) reaction arising from the frustration of seeing yet ANOTHER game needlessly tossed away. It's easy to forget, though, that Pearson and many of the players are still on a learning curve. They need to be given a chance to progress. Let's hope that progress comes sooner rather than later.
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 The fact is, there are a lot of folk on here who are not capable of building a reasoned argument. So they resort to abuse instead.The call for Pearson's head is an understandable (though unfair) reaction arising from the frustration of seeing yet ANOTHER game needlessly tossed away. It's easy to forget, though, that Pearson and many of the players are still on a learning curve. They need to be given a chance to progress. Let's hope that progress comes sooner rather than later. Excellent point that why i am honest with people and can be classed as a "Howard Hater" as he in my eyes should be the ones setting the example to players and with his vast experience and wealth of knowledge of the game. Same goes with Oakley hes played crap with king this season but within the last 2/3 games theve really made an effort and that shows on the pitch i cannot fault a player who shows commitment and his experiance. Clemo needs to show fans that he wants to play for this club aswell as if he dont he's the next one who will be getting the same treatment as howard because there the ones the younger players look to and what little games he has played for city he hasnt shown that hes good enough.Anyway il let him get fit & prove me wrong before i start a war
carterfox90 Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 The fact is, there are a lot of folk on here who are not capable of building a reasoned argument. So they resort to abuse instead.The call for Pearson's head is an understandable (though unfair) reaction arising from the frustration of seeing yet ANOTHER game needlessly tossed away. It's easy to forget, though, that Pearson and many of the players are still on a learning curve. They need to be given a chance to progress. Let's hope that progress comes sooner rather than later. good post & very true they need time
fox123 Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 Nicely undermined your argument there. And took out 50% of the population too.The original poster cited the following reasons for sacking Pearson: 1. Dropping two points 2. Playing averagely 3. Being a "buffoon" I'm never a fan of insults being sprayed around, but if the poster felt that those arguments deserved a measured response, then he's expecting a lot from the Internet. I think he/she was on the wind-up anyway. Maybe the poster was on the wind up, and whilst I don't agree AGAIN, with the Pearson out at this stage, lets face the facts that; 1. 2-0 with 6 minutes to go and end up drawing, is two points dropped. 2. I can't comment on how they played Saturday but judging on previous games, we haven't played the best. Just been lucky. 3. Pearson made the decision not to change things when 2-0 up, and again can't comment I was not at the game. Maybe by not making any changes he made stupid (buffoon like) mistakes. 4. Your not a fan of insults, yet they continued to flow. It's a stupid opinion though. If I suggested that Barack Obama and the Queen should be put in an elevator and force to copulate, would everyone respond with well detailed arguments with reasons and everything as to why they don't agree? Or just in easier terms, tell me to do one. Maybe it is a stupid opinion, but to bring the Queen, Barack Obama, elevators and 'copulating' into the argument (in a thread about Leicester City) maybe you need to look into new fantasy's. Well he called Pearson a "buffoon", so he started it Anyway, I will state my reasons. We have played 16 matches in the league and picked up 32 points, that's 2-per-game on average. Yes, we probably should have 34 after yesterday, but in other games we've come back (Bristol Rovers) so that evens it out a bit. We are playing better, more positive football and attacking away from home. Also, sacking a manager when in second place is just ridiculous. Compensation, and a possible claim for unfair dismissal would hamper the club. Actually, why am I even stating these reasons, it's plain stupidity to even consider sacking a manager again. Haven't we learnt from last season? The only decent response.
Rocky Dennis Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 The fact is, there are a lot of folk on here who are not capable of building a reasoned argument. So they resort to abuse instead.The call for Pearson's head is an understandable (though unfair) reaction arising from the frustration of seeing yet ANOTHER game needlessly tossed away. It's easy to forget, though, that Pearson and many of the players are still on a learning curve. They need to be given a chance to progress. Let's hope that progress comes sooner rather than later. A glance at the league table makes that sentence sound ludicrous! I despair if your opinion is shared by many others and suspect that some people will never be happy and wonder why they bother supporting this club?
Nod.E Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 A glance at the leauge table makes that sentence sound ludicrous!I despair if your opinion is shared by many others and suspect that some people will never be happy and wonder why they bother supporting this club? Exactly. I know people have different opinions, but whoever thinks Pearson should be sacked at this moment is retarded. Fact.
Tilley Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 This thread is great, Everyone is arguing about arguing. No one wants Pearson out, we're all on the same side, So Shaddap!
marbelladave Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 This thread is great,Everyone is arguing about arguing. No on wants Pearson out, we're all on the same side, So Shaddap! I for one do not want NP out. Calling for him to address our weaknesses is one thing, as is calling on him to be more adventurous in general. We are standing still, at best, time for NP and his coaching staff to get out there and do their jobs!
Tilley Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 I for one do not want NP out.Calling for him to address our weaknesses is one thing, as is calling on him to be more adventurous in general. We are standing still, at best, time for NP and his coaching staff to get out there and do their jobs! I do think they are doing a very good job, although as you say, being a bit more tactically adventurous wouldn't do any harm whatsoever. I will take this position come May, but obviously there is a long way to go to secure promotion.
Scow Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 It is a concern that we've yet again surrendered another winning position, but some of the reaction on this thread is over the top. I'm happy with that what Pearson has done so far. At the start of the season, I think most people would have settled for 2nd place and one point off the top. I remember reading pre-season expectations and a lot of people said they would have been happy with a play-off place. You only have to look at the 'bigger' teams that have been relegated in recent years to see that this division isn't a piece of piss. There's a long way to go, and despite not being at our best for a while, we're still up there.
marbelladave Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 It is a concern that we've yet again surrendered another winning position, but some of the reaction on this thread is over the top. I'm happy with that what Pearson has done so far. At the start of the season, I think most people would have settled for 2nd place and one point off the top. I remember reading pre-season expectations and a lot of people said they would have been happy with a play-off place. You only have to look at the 'bigger' teams that have been relegated in recent years to see that this division isn't a piece of piss.There's a long way to go, and despite not being at our best for a while, we're still up there. I am certainly happy with some of what NP has done, but his failure to address known weaknesses is a big concern. Our position in the league is misleading and is mainly due to our excellent start. Form in the last 6-8 weeks would place us no better than mid table, if we do not improve our play we will start to drift off the pace. Pre-season expectations are difficult, new manager, lots of new players, nobody knows what to expect however the first couple of months showed us to have the strongest squad in the division and Millwall aside, we were doing really well. What is not happening is that we are not improving or moving forward in the way other competing teams are, instead we are becoming more cautious and more predictable and the results are showing that.
James. Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 Our position in the league is misleading and is mainly due to our excellent start. Nonsense. Our position in the league is not misleading at all. All teams go in and out of form. All teams drop points when they were winning. I do however agree that Pearson should address the lack of concentration and bad attitude that pervaded at the end of the Swindon game. I'm loathe to contribute to this thread because the title really pisses me off. People should bear in mind that this forum is viewed by a lot more people than those that post on it. As far as I'm concerned this season is about shaking off the negativity that dragged this club down to the third division and uniting behind a manager who, so far, has shown to me he has the awareness and ability to get us out of this league. The thread title is offensive to the progress he has made with the club. Discussing his merits and weaknesses is fine, I just wish it was taking place in a thread started by a poster with some sense.
Kilworthfox Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 Pearson has done ok. He does seem to be tactically unaware, I am very disapointed with his insistance with playing 4-4-2 especially at home where most teams come with 1 up front . I wish we could have some belief within the team, especially when we concede a goal, it is becoming pathetic that we cannot play football after 80 minutes (not vs Bristol Rovers However we did not play any before 80 mins ).
Kilworthfox Posted 17 November 2008 Posted 17 November 2008 I wouls suggest that our league position says more about the standard of other teams rather than the ability of Leicester City F.C
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