act smiley Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 If resources were all it took we'd still be second to Leeds. As for being critical of todays performance, it certainly had plenty to be critical of including the Pearson's use of subs, but if you'd asked for predictions at the start of the season most would have said we'd be in the position we are but maybe a point or two better off and second to Leeds - its not the end of the world yet, even if the cracks are beginning to show.
maddog Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 An awful job?*2nd in the league. *32 points - 2 points per game. *Won 9, Drawn 5, Lost 2. *27 goals for. *14 goals against. You thought i was being serious It is hard to tell with maddog You just never no
iancognito Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 I don't know if 'cracks are beginning to show' is the best description, we've lost the early season momentum is all and we need a couple of good wins to get it rolling again. A win against the current league leaders will help build it up again. We won't win every game but I'll maintain that we're in a far better position to keep up our points per game ratio than anyone else around us. We won one in five and still only dropped two points off the pace. "We're not top of the league, we didn't destroy the opposition, sack the manager!" That sounds like the sort of talk those delusional still-living-in-1979 cocks up the A46 come out with and I'd like to think 99% of us are better than that.
marbelladave Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 If resources were all it took we'd still be second to Leeds. As for being critical of todays performance, it certainly had plenty to be critical of including the Pearson's use of subs, but if you'd asked for predictions at the start of the season most would have said we'd be in the position we are but maybe a point or two better off and second to Leeds - its not the end of the world yet, even if the cracks are beginning to show. Leads are in debt, we are not and whilst I am surprised that Leeds are not doing better than they are, they are not my concern. Pre season predictions are a nonsense, particularly given the turnaround in players that we saw this summer, but this does not alter the fact that we have the most powerful squad in this division. Are you seriously suggesting that you are satisfied with second place when closing out the games against Swindon and Brighton, let alone managing to beat such mediocre teams as Northampton and Walsall would have left us well clear at the top.
marbelladave Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 I don't know if 'cracks are beginning to show' is the best description, we've lost the early season momentum is all and we need a couple of good wins to get it rolling again. A win against the current league leaders will help build it up again. We won't win every game but I'll maintain that we're in a far better position to keep up our points per game ratio than anyone else around us. We won one in five and still only dropped two points off the pace. "We're not top of the league, we didn't destroy the opposition, sack the manager!" That sounds like the sort of talk those delusional still-living-in-1979 cocks up the A46 come out with and I'd like to think 99% of us are better than that. Your optimism is commendable, you grasp of reality less so! The issue is not, as you suggest "We're not top of the league, we didn't destroy the opposition, sack the manager!", it is simply that we are not delivering performances that are consistent with our potential. We are easily the best team in this division but we are not performing like it, we need to work out why and fix it, and soon!
Rocky Dennis Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 How many of you castigating 'Trevorbenjamin' were at todays game, or Brighton?Whilst I am most definitely not calling for Pearson to go, I think we are entitled to ask some pretty pointed questions. Putting aside all of the 'it's a tough league to get out of' and the 'you can't win every game' bollox, the reality is that we are the 'big club' in this league, financially stable, large fan base, powerful squad etc, etc. Had we taken the 6 points already won at Swindon and Brighton, had we turned a couple of recent 0-0's against poor opposition into wins we would be out of sight at the top of this league. This is not a 'might have been' but most definitely a 'should have been 'situation, and I feel that we have every right to ask of our management team why we have not been putting away opposition who are clearly not in our class. OK, I realise that we are second in the league, but realistically, given our resources that is nowhere near good enough! I was there and 'Trevorbenjamin' or anyone else who thinks we should sack Pearson is a TW@T.
iancognito Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 Are you seriously suggesting that you are satisfied with second place when closing out the games against Swindon and Brighton, let alone managing to beat such mediocre teams as Northampton and Walsall would have left us well clear at the top. The Brighton and Swindon games left me gutted but football isn't played on paper. Arsenal would have expected to beat Villa today after beating United but they didn't and their games against Stoke and Hull prove the point that no-one has a right to beat anyone. Yes of course it's frustrating to lose leads, and it's worse that we could have been at least 7 points better off but when we're sitting second in the table with a better GD than the leaders and with a much better squad than most around us, I'm well within my rights to be optimistic. The dropped points concern me but Pearson is the only one who can sort the team out. He knows the failings and will no doubt have verbally kicked the shit out of one or two people in the dressing room today. Knee jerk reactions helped get us down into this division in the first place and it's only by giving Pearson time to sort things out and having a bit of perspective that we'll get out of it.
marbelladave Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 I was there and 'Trevorbenjamin' or anyone else who thinks we should sack Pearson is a TW@T. As I clearly stated that I was not calling for NP to go, why quote me? I am not satisfied with our performances in recent games and am calling on NP and his management team to do something about it. A call to deal with some of the obvious weaknesses in the way we are playing. Is that so difficult to grasp?
Nationwider Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 Leads are in debt, we are not and whilst I am surprised that Leeds are not doing better than they are, they are not my concern. Pre season predictions are a nonsense, particularly given the turnaround in players that we saw this summer, but this does not alter the fact that we have the most powerful squad in this division.Are you seriously suggesting that you are satisfied with second place when closing out the games against Swindon and Brighton, let alone managing to beat such mediocre teams as Northampton and Walsall would have left us well clear at the top. Would you be satisfied with 2nd place after 46 games? Bearing in mind that only one club relegated from the second tier in the last 8/9 seasons (I can't remember precisely) has been automatically promoted the following year....
marbelladave Posted 15 November 2008 Posted 15 November 2008 The Brighton and Swindon games left me gutted but football isn't played on paper. Arsenal would have expected to beat Villa today after beating United but they didn't and their games against Stoke and Hull prove the point that no-one has a right to beat anyone. Yes of course it's frustrating to lose leads, and it's worse that we could have been at least 7 points better off but when we're sitting second in the table with a better GD than the leaders and with a much better squad than most around us, I'm well within my rights to be optimistic. The dropped points concern me but Pearson is the only one who can sort the team out. He knows the failings and will no doubt have verbally kicked the shit out of one or two people in the dressing room today. Knee jerk reactions helped get us down into this division in the first place and it's only by giving Pearson time to sort things out and having a bit of perspective that we'll get out of it. Whilst what you say is entirely correct, I see no reason why we should not ask NP and his team why we are not learning from our mistakes and moving forwards. Many of our shortcomings are self evident, yet they do not appear to have been addressed, how long should we be prepared to wait until they are? Generally speaking I think NP is doing a decent job, and in some areas a very good job, but it is quite clear that the team has a number of quite obvious short comings that should be addressed by the coaching staff but clearly are not. How can anyone be satisfied with that!
lildave3 Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Leads are in debt, we are not and whilst I am surprised that Leeds are not doing better than they are, they are not my concern. Pre season predictions are a nonsense, particularly given the turnaround in players that we saw this summer, but this does not alter the fact that we have the most powerful squad in this division.Are you seriously suggesting that you are satisfied with second place when closing out the games against Swindon and Brighton, let alone managing to beat such mediocre teams as Northampton and Walsall would have left us well clear at the top. Yes, yes I am. Yes we should have closed out the game today and against Brighton, but as long as we're in with a shout of promotion - it doesn't bother me that much.
carterfox90 Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 its just worrying that come the end of the season we miss out on promotion by 2 or three points theses games will come back to haunt us & pearson if he is still in charge it is still to early top get rid of pearson but certain things are starting to worry us ie: late subs coming on- why we cant keep a lead
James. Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 The title of this thread should be changed because it's f**king embarrassing.
syston_fox Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Yes, yes I am.Yes we should have closed out the game today and against Brighton, but as long as we're in with a shout of promotion - it doesn't bother me that much. Ditto. 2nd place would do me at the end of the season. I don't care how it happens so long as we're celebrating promotion come may.
fox123 Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Whilst I don't agree with Pearson out, some of the reaction to this post is damn right out of order. Whether or not it's a piss take, this poster has the right to his opinion and if he thinks that Pearson should be out does not give any of you the right to chastise the post the way you have, instead of calling someone a dick or a tosser, state your reason like the original poster did for wanting Pearson out. Your like a f00king bunch of women, once one starts you all start. I'd liken it to bully boy tactics in a play ground. To call someone a 'C[_]NT.' (to name but a few choice words) for having an opinion is damn right childish and out of order.
Nationwider Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Whilst I don't agree with Pearson out, some of the reaction to this post is damn right out of order. Whether or not it's a piss take, this poster has the right to his opinion and if he thinks that Pearson should be out does not give any of you the right to chastise the post the way you have, instead of calling someone a dick or a tosser, state your reason like the original poster did for wanting Pearson out. Your like a f00king bunch of women, once one starts you all start. I'd liken it to bully boy tactics in a play ground. To call someone a 'C[_]NT.' (to name but a few choice words) for having an opinion is damn right childish and out of order. Nicely undermined your argument there. And took out 50% of the population too. The original poster cited the following reasons for sacking Pearson: 1. Dropping two points 2. Playing averagely 3. Being a "buffoon" I'm never a fan of insults being sprayed around, but if the poster felt that those arguments deserved a measured response, then he's expecting a lot from the Internet. I think he/she was on the wind-up anyway.
Raj Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Another 2 points dropped, as we start to look very average in a very poor division. We've been found out and we'll sink like a stone.Get the buffoon out. I'm normally the twat who starts these threads,although i think most posters realise im only jesting. Boy,there are some REAL brain dead people around!!!
Asha Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Whilst I don't agree with Pearson out, some of the reaction to this post is damn right out of order. Whether or not it's a piss take, this poster has the right to his opinion and if he thinks that Pearson should be out does not give any of you the right to chastise the post the way you have, instead of calling someone a dick or a tosser, state your reason like the original poster did for wanting Pearson out. Your like a f00king bunch of women, once one starts you all start. I'd liken it to bully boy tactics in a play ground. To call someone a 'C[_]NT.' (to name but a few choice words) for having an opinion is damn right childish and out of order. It's a stupid opinion though. If I suggested that Barack Obama and the Queen should be put in an elevator and force to copulate, would everyone respond with well detailed arguments with reasons and everything as to why they don't agree? Or just in easier terms, tell me to do one.
LeeCovFox Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 Whilst I don't agree with Pearson out, some of the reaction to this post is damn right out of order. Whether or not it's a piss take, this poster has the right to his opinion and if he thinks that Pearson should be out does not give any of you the right to chastise the post the way you have, instead of calling someone a dick or a tosser, state your reason like the original poster did for wanting Pearson out. Your like a f00king bunch of women, once one starts you all start. I'd liken it to bully boy tactics in a play ground. To call someone a 'C[_]NT.' (to name but a few choice words) for having an opinion is damn right childish and out of order. You've really fooked your argument there. People have as much right to chastise his post as he did to submit it in the first place.
renards Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 We are predictable and have been sussed out which is worrying, we don't seem to have a plan B or C. Some of the football has been woefull. When you look a the squad of available players we are under acheiving, look at the sides around us. Pearson has had the benifit of following a clown, Bernie would have been a improvement. As for getting rid? I said at the time he was best of a bad bunch. But I do think he will only have one season to get us promoted
Rocky Dennis Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 We are predictable and have been sussed out which is worrying, we don't seem to have a plan B or C.Some of the football has been woefull. When you look a the squad of available players we are under acheiving, look at the sides around us. Pearson has had the benifit of following a clown, Bernie would have been a improvement. As for getting rid? I said at the time he was best of a bad bunch. But I do think he will only have one season to get us promoted I disagree. I was at the game and IMO opinion we totally dominated, were probably robbed of a penalty again, and 2 pieces of shite defending cost us 3 points. Simple as that really. I think many people on here look far too deeply into things as if they're football experts, which clearly they are not if they beleive another manager sacking is in order.
Raj Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 We are predictable and have been sussed out which is worrying, we don't seem to have a plan B or C.Some of the football has been woefull. When you look a the squad of available players we are under acheiving, look at the sides around us. Pearson has had the benifit of following a clown, Bernie would have been a improvement. As for getting rid? I said at the time he was best of a bad bunch. But I do think he will only have one season to get us promoted What you posted in the first 3 sentances could be said of the last season....or the season before that......and the one before that.....and the one before that too. "Pearson has had the benifit of following a clown, Bernie would have been a improvement."...that comment is just stupid,as vastly more experienced managers have failed at LCFC. Pearson has atleast steadied a very sinking ship. Its been said befire and will be again,bigger clubs than ours have been in this Division and strugggled, atleast we are still up there and fighting for top spot.
davieG Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 City boss Nigel Pearson was understandably a frustrated figure after seeing his side surrender a two-goal lead against Swindon Town at the County Ground on Saturday afternoon. The Foxes looked set to return to the top of the League One table thanks to second half goals from Matt Oakley and Matty Fryatt. But two goals in the last six minutes from the Robins earned them a share of the spoils whilst sending the Blue Army home disappointed. "Of course, I am extremely disappointed," admitted Pearson. "We weathered the storm in difficult first half conditions but then gave away two very poor goals which is very frustrating. "In the final 10 minutes we didn't deal with the problems they posed us and a lack of concentration and application has cost us at the end of the day. "We switched off and that's a concern because it was a game that we should have won comfortably in the end. "But we weren't ruthless enough, allowed them a foothold back into the game and it may sound a little unkind to Swindon but we threw away two points today rather than them earning the draw." Striker Steve Howard also picked up his fifth booking during the game and will now miss next Saturday's trip to leaders S****horpe United through suspension. "It's a shame because Steve has been doing well for us but that's how it is and we have to get on with it, it's as simple as that," added Pearson. "We did a lot of very good things today but ultimately we've thrown away two points and it's frustrating. "That has happened before this season and is something we must rectify. All we can do now is look forward to S****horpe and go there and win the game."
Jon the Hat Posted 16 November 2008 Posted 16 November 2008 How many of you castigating 'Trevorbenjamin' were at todays game, or Brighton?Whilst I am most definitely not calling for Pearson to go, I think we are entitled to ask some pretty pointed questions. Putting aside all of the 'it's a tough league to get out of' and the 'you can't win every game' bollox, the reality is that we are the 'big club' in this league, financially stable, large fan base, powerful squad etc, etc. Had we taken the 6 points already won at Swindon and Brighton, had we turned a couple of recent 0-0's against poor opposition into wins we would be out of sight at the top of this league. This is not a 'might have been' but most definitely a 'should have been 'situation, and I feel that we have every right to ask of our management team why we have not been putting away opposition who are clearly not in our class. OK, I realise that we are second in the league, but realistically, given our resources that is nowhere near good enough! Much like Chelsea, and I don't see any Chelsea fans calling for Scolari's head do you?
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