The People's Hero Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 My girlfriend told me this, for different reasons.OLE! Oh dear. It's because she doesn't want to have to have se.... Oh... right.. you got it? <_<
Finnegan Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 You have to keep in mind it was particularly culturually relevant at the time, though. Far more so than if, say, Ryan Jones were to come out with it today.
Flynny Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 But it's not what I think at all. I was describing what the actual approach to smoking has been like, not whether I agree with it.In fact, and on several occasions, I've made it clear that the treatment of smokers has caused huge problems with smokers feeling victimised and depressed as a result. The changes made have been ill thought out and, in many ways, counter-productive despite the fact that, individually, I loathe cigarette smoke and have to get away from it. Regarding drink-driving of course it's a curb on civil liberty (just as the smoking legislation is) but I don't know that civil liberties is the thing I'd focus on because roads are places where you need civil co-operation and a reasonable level of competence just like pubs are places where there are the effects on other people to consider. Just checking. I know you don't mind replying to repeating questioning.
Shrenchel Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 General Smuts has never fucked cancer? Jade Goody can't milk a goat. Think I prefer yours though.
Thracian Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 You have to keep in mind it was particularly culturually relevant at the time, though. Far more so than if, say, Ryan Jones were to come out with it today. Go on I'll buy it. Tell me what was culturally relevent. Okay, forget the holiday homes. I remember Welsh activists setting fire to them. Do you suggest we should do the same here to any non-English who have a holiday home? That'd go down well. Besides I thought you didn't like the English. If they were only staying for a fortnight a year I'd think you'd be grateful, get master keys made and enjoy a few buckshee holidays while they were away. And anyway who chose to sell those homes or were they simply stolen? As for the coal, steel and water, didn't we buy the stuff at an agreed price? Perhaps we didn't pay enough I don't know, but then the world is full of people thinking they might have got a bit more for something. You should have seen what Gordon Brown sold our gold for. Wouldn't be surprised if he sold it to the Welsh. Anyway not only were the resources purchased but the money provided the workforce with the wages to continue living in places like the wonderful Rhondda Valley and that right alongside the picturesque scenery of the Black Mountains. Hell how you've suffered. All that fresh air and mountains. Very good for the respiration. It's probably put five years on your life. The Welsh should be grateful. As for the water, we built the reservoirs I think you're referring to and presumably we pay for the water we pipe out. What else would you have done with those particular areas of land? Hell there's barely a soul in sight. http://www.welshicons.org.uk/html/elan_valley_reservoirs.php And it's clear you don't need all that water for yourselves so presumably you just want to be greedy or to up the price and rip us off? Always strikes me that Wales is full of water, reservoirs or not. Carry a bath on your roof-rack and the bloody thing would be full at the end of a week's holiday. And you cannot need that much for making beer cos Wales is closed by 9pm apart from Cardiff and Swansea. Besides don't the Teme, the Severn and the Llangollen Canal run into England anyway and even the Wye before disappearing into the Bristol Channel? Perhaps we should charge you for all the flooding caused by your water courses. Race meetings galore at Worcester for a start, then the Severn Valley Railway embankment caved in and the residents of Tewksbury, Bewdley and the like must have water on the brain the flooding is so bad. http://www.bbc.co.uk/shropshire/content/ar...t_feature.shtml http://www.skyscan.co.uk/gallery/index.gal...id=2&img=55 It's all down to the Welsh for not covering the landscape in blotting paper and not drinking enough. But it's we English who suffer. When did we ever dump water on your land? Or pinch your precious coal and steel. We were all in the pub keeping out of the rain.
Finnegan Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 I'm going to go ahead and admit I read about two sentences of that before deciding I'd had this argument seven bzillion times already, probably even with you before and I'm too busy catching up on Heroes to either read the rest of it or write a lengthly reply. All I'll give you is that: 1. When I said it was more culturally relevant I wasn't suggesting what he was saying was especially true or false (making 99% of what you wrote both missing the point and irrelevant) but more that it was quoted to a bunch of working class Welsh fellas representing their country at an amateur sport in a time of increased Welsh nationalist feeling. 2. Yes, you build the reservoirs. You flooded our land and even our villages for Water to go to Liverpool and Birmingham as reserves despite thirty five out of thirty six Welsh members of parliament voting against the action. I'm not here to comment on whether that's right or wrong but I think it's somewhat fair grounds to be pissed off at very least.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 What's the difference between cancer and a goat? General Smuts has never fucked cancer? Jade Goody can't milk a goat. Think I prefer yours though. Hahaha. By the way, who ****ing cares what managers/captains say in the dressing room to fire players up? As long as it works.
Thracian Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 2. Yes, you build the reservoirs. You flooded our land and even our villages for Water to go to Liverpool and Birmingham as reserves despite thirty five out of thirty six Welsh members of parliament voting against the action. I'm not here to comment on whether that's right or wrong but I think it's somewhat fair grounds to be pissed off at very least. :D People always vote against things like that. They're called NIMBY's now. It happened in Rutland (houses as well) and they complained too so it wasn't personal against the Welsh, I'm sure. The complainants are probably the same ones who complain when there's a drought and they can't put their hose pipe's on. And they'd moan even louder if there was no clean, fresh water to drink. Build suifficient reservoir's and you're damned. Don't build em and you're damned. I know which situation I'd rather have.
cisono Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 A bit like small pox, flu, hep A, bubonic plague, yellow fever, mumps, measles, rubella, tetanus, diptheria, 'der consumpshon' (that's TB to youse), hep B and, er, everything else we've beaten that at one point had no cure or vaccine for? We haven't beaten anything. Since when have we beaten "the flu"? Or TB for that matter? (We THOUGHT we had, but that's because we are thick) We have too many vaccines. Overall, they are not as effective as they are made out to be (latest HPV vaccine, anyone? It is basically useless, and pointless, but a good money spinner so far). And many of them have side effects (again, see HPV vaccine). Some contain mercury. [For goodness's sake, do not use mercury thermometers, but it is ok for us to inject you with some mercury , that is safe. ()] We would probably be better off having FEWER vaccines, NOT more of them!
davieG Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 People always vote against things like that. They're called NIMBY's now. It happened in Rutland too (houses as well) and they complained so it wasn't personal, I'm sure.They're the same ones who complain when there's a drought and they can't put their hose pipe's on. And they'd moan even louder if there was no clean, fresh water to drink. Build suifficient reservoir's and you're damned. Don't build em and you're damned. I know which situation I'd rather have. Dams can be pretty useful when building reservoirs
Daggers Posted 10 March 2009 Posted 10 March 2009 Or TB for that matter? (We THOUGHT we had, but that's because we are thick) TB was all but eradicated but for immigrants from Asia arriving without any protection - vaccination programs in this country stopped it being a problem to the extent that the program was cancelled prior to this influx. Vaccination worked perfectly. Some contain mercury. [For goodness's sake, do not use mercury thermometers, but it is ok for us to inject you with some mercury , that is safe. ()]We would probably be better off having FEWER vaccines, NOT more of them! There is a substantial difference between an element and a compound.
Alexikokopops Posted 11 March 2009 Posted 11 March 2009 TB was all but eradicated but for immigrants from Asia arriving without any protection - vaccination programs in this country stopped it being a problem to the extent that the program was cancelled prior to this influx. Vaccination worked perfectly. There is a substantial difference between an element and a compound. I admire you for trying Daggers. I gave up a long time ago.
Finnegan Posted 11 March 2009 Posted 11 March 2009 I admire you for trying Daggers. I gave up a long time ago. End of the day - I don't want to die, but I refuse to not live just to slim my risk of cancer. ... God damn these uranium biscuits are good.
cisono Posted 11 March 2009 Posted 11 March 2009 TB was all but eradicated but for immigrants from Asia arriving without any protection - vaccination programs in this country stopped it being a problem to the extent that the program was cancelled prior to this influx. Vaccination worked perfectly. It had been greatly reduced perhaps, especially in this country, but not universally (I did not need a booster at age 9, later my granddad died from what they called a "closed form of TB". Maybe it was cancer and they didn't want to tell us, maybe it was TB). In any case, apparently now there are antibiotics-resistant forms of TB. Heard of people suffering from this in the US (think it's in NY city?) and being quarantined against their will for risk of spreading it. Not making this up, it was in a BBC documentary some time ago. As to blaming the immigrants, I would think twice about doing that. According to this programme I watched, it is more to do with confined living quarters. ANYONE living in situations like: 5 people to a bedroom or many people in a small house will be at risk from TB (though of course there are various degrees of risk). Incidentally, when I was a kid, I used to share my bedroom with my two sisters and the whole family (8 people) only had 3 bedrooms in all. Coincidence? Hmmm...
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