Another Part of Leicester's Heritage disappears.....

[MPH]

thought they were getting rid of all teenage single mums for a minute when i read this thread title....

[Guest]

thought they were getting rid of all teenage single mums for a minute when i read this thread title....

Then who would Jeremy Kyle shout at?

[Maybes]

I like the bridge. Would be a shame to see it go.

[Zingari]

That's what I said!!

Like what? As someone who appreciates a decent boozer, I am gobsmacked at this comment.

Such as?

Weren't these demolished in the late 70s/ early 80s? I swear they were about when I was a kid, and if so, they were nothing like the bowstring bridge.

Yes i believe so .

Agreed , they did not look like bowstring bridges to me either . That is what i wanted clarifying when Ultra said there were many bridges of this type that had fell into disrepair and had been demolished ( Fosse road , Blackbird road etc )

[Guest]

[/b]

Yes i believe so .

Agreed , they did not look like bowstring bridges to me either . That is what i wanted clarifying when Ultra said there were many bridges of this type that had fell into disrepair and had been demolished ( Fosse road , Blackbird road etc )

I remember my dad wasn't happy when they knocked the bridges down, and he said at the time that the railway lines could be used for trams instead of trains. Every time that the subject of trams is mentioned in the Mockery now, he still brings that one up.

[Lillehamring]

I remember my dad wasn't happy when they knocked the bridges down, and he said at the time that the railway lines could be used for trams instead of trains. Every time that the subject of trams is mentioned in the Mockery now, he still brings that one up.

it's a fair point - that's what frustrates me about leicester - and it's not just the current council, this goes back decades, but so many opportunities have been missed, so much has been lost through not really thinking about the impications of destruction.

similar to the tram theme, and victim of the same distorted financial arguments as the bridge, is the ivanhoe line - ever since they built the walkers i imagined a platform on that high bank at the back of the ground - think of the money and resources that would be saved managing the away fans, not to mention the improvements to parking and traffic for locals coming from the west of the county - but, the council just buries it's head and drags out it's 15 year old quote and nothing happens.

[Guest]

it's a fair point - that's what frustrates me about leicester - and it's not just the current council, this goes back decades, but so many opportunities have been missed, so much has been lost through not really thinking about the impications of destruction.

similar to the tram theme, and victim of the same distorted financial arguments as the bridge, is the ivanhoe line - ever since they built the walkers i imagined a platform on that high bank at the back of the ground - think of the money and resources that would be saved managing the away fans, not to mention the improvements to parking and traffic for locals coming from the west of the county - but, the council just buries it's head and drags out it's 15 year old quote and nothing happens.

Quite a few people have said the same thing. Linked to the main station on London Rd, it could be an easier and more efficient way of getting away supporters to and from the WS (an excuse as well to move the position of the away fans, although the design of the WS doesn't really support this). Public transport is shocking in Leicester, it's almost as if the council is happy to have the city centre clogged up with traffic.

[Webbo]

similar to the tram theme, and victim of the same distorted financial arguments as the bridge, is the ivanhoe line - ever since they built the walkers i imagined a platform on that high bank at the back of the ground - think of the money and resources that would be saved managing the away fans, not to mention the improvements to parking and traffic for locals coming from the west of the county - but, the council just buries it's head and drags out it's 15 year old quote and nothing happens.

Tbf That's an expensive option considering The Walkers is only used around 20/30 times a year.

[Guest]

Tbf That's an expensive option considering The Walkers is only used around 20/30 times a year.

Tiggers could benefit, as could the Freemen's Common cinema. There are also the British Gas and EDF offices, so would be another option for people working there, as well as the industrial units on Freemen's Common.

[davieG]

it's a fair point - that's what frustrates me about leicester - and it's not just the current council, this goes back decades, but so many opportunities have been missed, so much has been lost through not really thinking about the impications of destruction.

similar to the tram theme, and victim of the same distorted financial arguments as the bridge, is the ivanhoe line - ever since they built the walkers i imagined a platform on that high bank at the back of the ground - think of the money and resources that would be saved managing the away fans, not to mention the improvements to parking and traffic for locals coming from the west of the county - but, the council just buries it's head and drags out it's 15 year old quote and nothing happens.

That's mostly down to the County Council, for years they kept saying it was too expensive without any real justification and now all of a sudden they are for it and the costs really have escalated. The problem is there's no joined up thinking.

On the tram issue the City Council were keen on one from the Syston area until Pennbury reared up as an opportunity but I could never understand the Syston option as we have a perfectly decent railway line from there - true it could have picked up Thurmaston but it has as much chance of getting down Belgrave Road as the Pennbury one had of getting down London Road.

They seem to be concerned more with looks than substance when it comes to transport/trams.

[davieG]

Tbf That's an expensive option considering The Walkers is only used around 20/30 times a year.

That's only one of many, many benefits.

[Lillehamring]

Tbf That's an expensive option considering The Walkers is only used around 20/30 times a year.

yeah but if it you look at the route, and the fact that it would go to the central station, it would sevice so many residents from narborough road out to coalville and beyond - think how many cars that would take off the road... how many people it would bring into the city centre.

and if it went all the way to burton, it would bring a whole new demographic into leicester...

trouble is your councils don't see this, but as DavieG says, no collective thinking - friction between the city and county councils and too many money grabbing public transport companies

[ob1kanobe0]

Couldn't we sell the bridge for an inflated price to some American Indian in the Nevada desert like in Aufweidersein Pet

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I remember my dad wasn't happy when they knocked the bridges down, and he said at the time that the railway lines could be used for trams instead of trains. Every time that the subject of trams is mentioned in the Mockery now, he still brings that one up.

Good for him. I used to love riding on the trams. They had such character., just like the steam trains. Great fun.

[lou]

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news...il/article.html

An update.

DMU still wont confirm if the general public will be allowed to use the pool WHEN its built........... thatll be a No then

[The Padster]

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news...il/article.html

An update.

DMU still wont confirm if the general public will be allowed to use the pool WHEN its built........... thatll be a No then

Damn, i was creating my topic whilst you posted this! Stupid slow internet at work <_<

[lou]

Damn, i was creating my topic whilst you posted this! Stupid slow internet at work <_<

Sorry

[The Padster]

Sorry

S'all gravy mate, i'll put my thoughts here now

Asisstant Estates director Mr Desai said: "We had a look around our campus and other sites but they were so congested that the size of facility we wanted would not fit. We would have to compromise on the facility we wanted" - Boo bloody hoo, sometimes you dont get what you want!! The LCC should at least strap a pair on and tell DMU to do one.

[lou]

Also annoying, he said he didnt use pubs so didnt give a shit about the Pump and Tap. Nice one!

[Ultra]

A post on Bentley's Roof betrays the true agenda of many behind the "save the bridge" campaign.

I think Leicester is a shit hole that has had its heart ripped out of it many times over the last 40 years.

It is what I would describe as a functional place and is not somewhere that is worthy of a visit.

You walk down the streets and it is full of so many different types of people, that although live in the same City, do not generally mix together and so there is very little togetherness. I feel that I don't belong.

With regards the structure of the place, anything worth keeping has been knocked down for functional housing or shopping areas.

It works, it is functional, but I hate going there and apart from 2 or 3 times a year and the footie, I leave it well alone.

The closure of the bridge is yet another example of just having a City without sole [sic] that just functions.

Other places are bad, but we are one of the worst places I think.

I only live 15 miles away, but a visit to Leicester fills me with dread.

With regards the statue, again an example of our own history being ignored. What about a statue of the bloke who invented the DNA profiling? Ghandi has nothing to do with Leicester, but we constantly pander to the people who have come here from abroad to make them feel welcome. That is not a problem, but by doing so it has helped to rip the heritage out of our home.

I was born in Leicester, but gave up on it years ago as it died long ago. You knew we were in trouble years ago when Welford Road Reci was renamed Nelson Mandela Park.The original people from Leicester don't belong anymore, we have been forgotten years ago.

The bridge will be gone. But in years to come any mosques will be preserved.

It's disappointing and depressing that the Stormfront tendency is alive and well and flourishing within a section of our fan base.

Sadly only ONE person on that board saw fit to correct either the repulsive racism or the poisonous lies that lay within that post. Others (including, sadly, Davie G ) either APPLAUDED it or turned a blind eye.

The issues at stake have gone way beyond the fate of one rusty, decaying bridge.

The battle lines have been drawn between those of us who look towards the future and work towards regenerating and expanding our city, and those who dream that the clock can somehow be turned back fifty years.

The intervention of the local tabloid, launching a crusade it cannot and will not win, may enable it to regain the affections of a few rednecks who lurk within the darker reaches of the county.

But the long-term damage to the paper's image, and relations with potential commercial partners, may take years to rebuild.

The previous editor of that publication had the sense to realise that there is insufficient local appetite for a local version of the Daily Heil.

Davie G and his ilk may wish to live in a Daily Heil world. That's their privilege.

But they have NO right to impose that on the rest of us.

[Lillehamring]

A post on Bentley's Roof betrays the true agenda of many behind the "save the bridge" campaign.

It's disappointing and depressing that the Stormfront tendency is alive and well and flourishing within a section of our fan base.

Sadly only ONE person on that board saw fit to correct either the repulsive racism or the poisonous lies that lay within that post. Others (including, sadly, Davie G ) either APPLAUDED it or turned a blind eye.

The issues at stake have gone way beyond the fate of one rusty, decaying bridge.

The battle lines have been drawn between those of us who look towards the future and work towards regenerating and expanding our city, and those who dream that the clock can somehow be turned back fifty years.

The intervention of the local tabloid, launching a crusade it cannot and will not win, may enable it to regain the affections of a few rednecks who lurk within the darker reaches of the county.

But the long-term damage to the paper's image, and relations with potential commercial partners, may take years to rebuild.

The previous editor of that publication had the sense to realise that there is insufficient local appetite for a local version of the Daily Heil.

Davie G and his ilk may wish to live in a Daily Heil world. That's their privilege.

But they have NO right to impose that on the rest of us.

so anyone who wants to save toe bridge is a nazi and a racist (yet it's ok to want to save the pump and tap ) - the bridge is no excuse for racism and no sensible person will support that, but to tar us all with the same brush as you laughably attempt to do reveals more about you than me and davieG et al (who i happen to know is the most tolerant of men)

no one has said 'no regeneration', you dimwit, simply to have regeneration AND preservation as so many other cities manage to do, the demolition of the bridge has no architectural justification, it is simply the cheapest way for DMU to build their building, which i suspect will be of zero architectural merit.

for most of us the 'issues at stake' are simply a desire to see something of legitimate value saved, and for me at least, to see some of the power and irresponsiibilty of DMU reduced...your feeble smear campaign is frankly embarrassing.

and as far as turning the clock back, only philistines such as yourself fail to see that the DMU architectural policy is largely stuck in the mid 80s, i suggest it is you and your self-righteous, council-bumming ilk that are the real rednecks... development and preservation can work hand in hand, but it takes an intelligent and strong local council to achieve this, otherwise the developers will just walk over the city in a quest for maximising profit.

[James.]

Dimwit!

Seriously though, good post Val.

[Guest Bilo]

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news...il/article.html

An update.

DMU still wont confirm if the general public will be allowed to use the pool WHEN its built........... thatll be a No then

The public can use the John Sandford Sports Centre at present for a reasonable fee. I see no reason why this wouldn't be carried over to the new facility. There is definitely a need for improved sports facilities at DMU as John Sandford is well past its sell-by date, but the comments about some of the uni's buildings being unimaginative are fair to be honest. The new Business & Law faculty for instance has completely dwarved the Magazine, thus failing miserably to 'make a feature of it' as promised.

The bridge itself though is an eyesore in my humble opinion and would come a long way down the list of Leicester landmarks for most without this news. At best, visitors to the city will ignore the bridge and at worst view it as a poor reflection on the city itself.

[davieG]

A post on Bentley's Roof betrays the true agenda of many behind the "save the bridge" campaign.

It's disappointing and depressing that the Stormfront tendency is alive and well and flourishing within a section of our fan base.

Sadly only ONE person on that board saw fit to correct either the repulsive racism or the poisonous lies that lay within that post. Others (including, sadly, Davie G ) either APPLAUDED it or turned a blind eye.

The issues at stake have gone way beyond the fate of one rusty, decaying bridge.

The battle lines have been drawn between those of us who look towards the future and work towards regenerating and expanding our city, and those who dream that the clock can somehow be turned back fifty years.

The intervention of the local tabloid, launching a crusade it cannot and will not win, may enable it to regain the affections of a few rednecks who lurk within the darker reaches of the county.

But the long-term damage to the paper's image, and relations with potential commercial partners, may take years to rebuild.

The previous editor of that publication had the sense to realise that there is insufficient local appetite for a local version of the Daily Heil.

Davie G and his ilk may wish to live in a Daily Heil world. That's their privilege.

But they have NO right to impose that on the rest of us.

I shan't waste my time responding to this slanderous rubbish, just to say there's very few people in my 60 years that I've met that I haven't some found common ground and struck up a decent meaningful relationship but if we ever cross paths again please don't acknowledge my presence because I certainly will not acknowledge yours.

[davieG]

The public can use the John Sandford Sports Centre at present for a reasonable fee. I see no reason why this wouldn't be carried over to the new facility. There is definitely a need for improved sports facilities at DMU as John Sandford is well past its sell-by date, but the comments about some of the uni's buildings being unimaginative are fair to be honest. The new Business & Law faculty for instance has completely dwarved the Magazine, thus failing miserably to 'make a feature of it' as promised.

The bridge itself though is an eyesore in my humble opinion and would come a long way down the list of Leicester landmarks for most without this news. At best, visitors to the city will ignore the bridge and at worst view it as a poor reflection on the city itself.

Yet again you fall into the trap set by the council, of course it's an eyesore any building not maintained becomes an eyesore and the council are solely to blame for that just like they are for many other historical buildings.

The truth is behind the scandalously neglected pealing paintwork lies a unique piece of engineering.

It amazes me that University that gave me my education in engineering can find it so easy to wipe away it's very existence.