Why are there so many non-3.00pm kick offs?

[acooling08]

Is it sky or just mean clubs tring to piss off away supporters?

- Sheffield Utd - 7.45pm

- Newcastle Utd - 7.45pm

- Middlesborough - 8.00pm

- Coventry - 12.30 pm

- QPR - 7.45pm

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Is it sky or just mean clubs tring to piss off away supporters?

- Sheffield Utd - 7.45pm

- Newcastle Utd - 7.45pm

- Middlesborough - 8.00pm

- Coventry - 12.30 pm

- QPR - 7.45pm

Sheff Utd - Tuesday. Hardly likely to play at 3pm are we?

Newcastle - SKY (Bank holiday Monday)

Middlesbrough - Tuesday

Cov - In case of fan trouble probably

QPR - SKY

[john_lcfc]

more Tuesday games this year because season has to be done and dusted earlier because it is a world cup year

[purpleronnie]

Modern football eh?

[leicesterfox86]

This is just the way football is now. Would you rather Leicester weren't on TV (and therefore not getting the money), just so they could play at 3pm every Saturday? 3pm kick-offs have been less significant for a long time now. As is Saturday football in general. Some episodes of Match of the Day were a joke last year with only three or four games!

Plus, for those of us who work on Saturday afternoons....the many alternatives are extremely welcome

[Fox92]

As it is a World Cup year we knew and can understand that it was going to happen.

But there are obviousley more than what you write down, the likes of Bristol City both home and away, Peterborough at home is also one.

The football league cannot help it I don't think but Sky do it just to annoy away fans I think. I mean, Newcastle have got 4 games on the TV in the forthcoming two months I think. On Sky's point, it is not fair on away fans but if they are on the TV they are generating money for the club and we can save money ourselves so we can go to another away game which is not on the TV so we get to see both games

[Fosse Boy]

I blame Sky Sports personally.

[Guest]

This is just the way football is now. Would you rather Leicester weren't on TV (and therefore not getting the money), just so they could play at 3pm every Saturday? 3pm kick-offs have been less significant for a long time now. As is Saturday football in general. Some episodes of Match of the Day were a joke last year with only three or four games!

Plus, for those of us who work on Saturday afternoons....the many alternatives are extremely welcome

I was once told that outside of the Premiership, the TV money barely covers the loss in revenue caused by fans deciding to watch the game on TV and not at the stadium itself. It's only profitable if we can get as many in as we normally would, so the Leeds game would have been profitable, whereas the Oldham game wouldn't have been.

Given that this is the case, you would wonder why we agree to games being shown on the TV. Sky arrange with the Football League the games that they are going to show, and as it's the FL telling us, we have to comply.

As for kick off times, as already explained by others, most of our midweek fixtures are nothing to do with TV coverage, and games like the Cov game have been moved on police advice, however nobody can televise a British 3pm kick off on a Saturday afternoon in the UK, it's a long standing agreement that, if I remember correctly, was put in place to protect clubs' matchday attendances, or something along those lines. There are obvious exceptions, such as the FA Cup Final, internationals and play-off games.

[Fosse Boy]

I was once told that outside of the Premiership, the TV money barely covers the loss in revenue caused by fans deciding to watch the game on TV and not at the stadium itself. It's only profitable if we can get as many in as we normally would, so the Leeds game would have been profitable, whereas the Oldham game wouldn't have been.

Given that this is the case, you would wonder why we agree to games being shown on the TV. Sky arrange with the Football League the games that they are going to show, and as it's the FL telling us, we have to comply.

As for kick off times, as already explained by others, most of our midweek fixtures are nothing to do with TV coverage, and games like the Cov game have been moved on police advice, however nobody can televise a British 3pm kick off on a Saturday afternoon in the UK, it's a long standing agreement that, if I remember correctly, was put in place to protect clubs' matchday attendances, or something along those lines. There are obvious exceptions, such as the FA Cup Final, internationals and play-off games.

That is correct. However, I think one exception to this rule was made in the 00/01 season. If I remember rightly, our last game of the season was against Leeds, who were vying with Liverpool for the last "Champions League TM" place. So in another patented Sky Sports first, they showed both our game against Leeds and Liverpool's game (can't remember who they were playing) simultaneously at 3 p.m. on Saturday on two different channels. The first, and only time to date that this had ever been done.

[Guest]

That is correct. However, I think one exception to this rule was made in the 00/01 season. If I remember rightly, our last game of the season was against Leeds, who were vying with Liverpool for the last "Champions League TM" place. So in another patented Sky Sports first, they showed both our game against Leeds and Liverpool's game (can't remember who they were playing) simultaneously at 3 p.m. on Saturday on two different channels. The first, and only time to date that this had ever been done.

I hadn't been aware of this, probably because I was more concerned with going to the game itself!

I hate Sky.

[Corky]

That is correct. However, I think one exception to this rule was made in the 00/01 season. If I remember rightly, our last game of the season was against Leeds, who were vying with Liverpool for the last "Champions League TM" place. So in another patented Sky Sports first, they showed both our game against Leeds and Liverpool's game (can't remember who they were playing) simultaneously at 3 p.m. on Saturday on two different channels. The first, and only time to date that this had ever been done.

What about when we played Arsenal on the last day in 2004? That was a Saturday afternoon

[AyewJoking]

This is just the way football is now. Would you rather Leicester weren't on TV (and therefore not getting the money), just so they could play at 3pm every Saturday? 3pm kick-offs have been less significant for a long time now. As is Saturday football in general. Some episodes of Match of the Day were a joke last year with only three or four games!

Plus, for those of us who work on Saturday afternoons....the many alternatives are extremely welcome

What true footie fan would work on saturday afternoons?

[Fosse Boy]

What about when we played Arsenal on the last day in 2004? That was a Saturday afternoon

Ah yes. Indeed it was.

The only thing I remember about that Lids game was that Akinbiyi played the entire game with no collar on his shirt.

[bluefox9er]

Sheff Utd - Tuesday. Hardly likely to play at 3pm are we?

Newcastle - SKY (Bank holiday Monday)

Middlesbrough - Tuesday

Cov - In case of fan trouble probably

QPR - SKY

historically, clubs dont give a toss about away fans, and sky dont give a toss about * paying fans *. they want everyone to watch on the telly.

However, when it comes to ££££'s thrown by SKY to all and sundry, not even the clubs could give a toss about their *own *fans.

this, im afraid is one of the ' improvements' and ' benefits' of modern football.

im sure we all have uncontrolable urges to watch plymouth argyle on TV on a tuesday night...

[Guest]

historically, clubs dont give a toss about away fans, and sky dont give a toss about * paying fans *. they want everyone to watch on the telly.

However, when it comes to ££££'s thrown by SKY to all and sundry, not even the clubs could give a toss about their *own *fans.

this, im afraid is one of the ' improvements' and ' benefits' of modern football.

im sure we all have uncontrolable urges to watch plymouth argyle on TV on a tuesday night...

I might as well not have posted.....

[LCFC-ARAB]

What about when we played Arsenal on the last day in 2004? That was a Saturday afternoon

that was on prem plus and you had to pay for it

so wasn't on skysports

[bluefox9er]

I might as well not have posted.....

ouch,so sorry, i wasn't having a go at you at all, but im old school and from the school of thought that football should be played at 3.00pm on a saturday.

the odd live game is all well and dandy, but things are clearly wrong when television networks decide what the fixtures are going to be.

sky have been very clever in playing to the ' no live 3.00pm saturday game' by rescheduling football matches for every time under the sun EXCEPT 3.00pm on a saturday afternoon!

however, i dont apologise for saying ££££ comes before fans to clubs. we are incredibly disposable to our 'team'...loyalty is a 1 way street in football.

[Fosse Boy]

ouch,so sorry, i wasn't having a go at you at all, but im old school and from the school of thought that football should be played at 3.00pm on a saturday.

Some of us from the young school are from that school of thought too.

[The Doctor]

I was once told that outside of the Premiership, the TV money barely covers the loss in revenue caused by fans deciding to watch the game on TV and not at the stadium itself. It's only profitable if we can get as many in as we normally would, so the Leeds game would have been profitable, whereas the Oldham game wouldn't have been.

Given that this is the case, you would wonder why we agree to games being shown on the TV. Sky arrange with the Football League the games that they are going to show, and as it's the FL telling us, we have to comply.

As for kick off times, as already explained by others, most of our midweek fixtures are nothing to do with TV coverage, and games like the Cov game have been moved on police advice, however nobody can televise a British 3pm kick off on a Saturday afternoon in the UK, it's a long standing agreement that, if I remember correctly, was put in place to protect clubs' matchday attendances, or something along those lines. There are obvious exceptions, such as the FA Cup Final, internationals and play-off games.

uk tv channels can't but channels in places like greece, turkey, egypt etc. can and these channels can be watched on british tv via sky, freeview and other suppliers meaning that it's not much use anyway and causes smaller clubs, especially in an area where big clubs are also fairly local (e.g. bury and rochdale near manure) so the "fans" that might have gone to the games instead go to a pub and watch the manure match seeing as how some pubs use multinational tv suppliers to illegally televise matches meaning this agreement doesn't really help the clubs at all but instead means that they move several bigger matches to when big clubs aren't playing to get better attendances.

[Fox92]

I blame Sky Sports personally.

So do I.

[Guest]

ouch,so sorry, i wasn't having a go at you at all, but im old school and from the school of thought that football should be played at 3.00pm on a saturday.

the odd live game is all well and dandy, but things are clearly wrong when television networks decide what the fixtures are going to be.

sky have been very clever in playing to the ' no live 3.00pm saturday game' by rescheduling football matches for every time under the sun EXCEPT 3.00pm on a saturday afternoon!

however, i dont apologise for saying ££££ comes before fans to clubs. we are incredibly disposable to our 'team'...loyalty is a 1 way street in football.

I agree that TV is killing the game for the fans, and like I said, at our level we aren't getting much benefit from it, but all clubs have sold their soul for the promise of the Premiership, and the millions that it's promised.

Not that it's done much good. Just look at some of the teams that have dropped into League One over the last few seasons, especially this one just gone. All three relegated teams were playing in the Premiership not long ago. So much for it doing the game good!

uk tv channels can't but channels in places like greece, turkey, egypt etc. can and these channels can be watched on british tv via sky, freeview and other suppliers meaning that it's not much use anyway and causes smaller clubs, especially in an area where big clubs are also fairly local (e.g. bury and rochdale near manure) so the "fans" that might have gone to the games instead go to a pub and watch the manure match seeing as how some pubs use multinational tv suppliers to illegally televise matches meaning this agreement doesn't really help the clubs at all but instead means that they move several bigger matches to when big clubs aren't playing to get better attendances.

That's weird, because both my freeview and freesat are distinctly football free at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon. And that's why I made it clear that TV stations in the UK can't televise games that take place in the UK, except for exceptional circumstances.