Am I alone in this?

[davieG]

Who gives a shit. It's banter. What do you expect? If you go to a football match and moan about the chanting and don't like it, don't go.

It will always go on. It's hardly awful is it? A few chants.

It might be banter but I guess that depends on your definition but it's just not funny, intelligent or serving any purpose other than giving a few juveniles the thrill of saying something rude in public that their mummies would disapprove of. Oh and it's got nothing to do with football or supporting your team.

I would imagine that the person it was aimed at and every woman attending the game would 'give a shit'

[fleckneymike]

Perhaps I am old fashioned, or maybe out of touch these days. Maybe you can put me right. However this morning I feel a bit indignant

Last night at Preston I sat and listened to 90 minutes of drivel from the Preston fans to the right of us

I am not sure which female Leicester supporter the comments were aimed at but we had constant chants of

"who's the slapper over there"

"she's got chlamyida"

"does she take it up the bum"

continually. Very few other chants, certainly very few in support of their team, just verbal sexual abuse towards whoever it was

I'm 42 years old, seen and heard most things at football matches and I cringed at all of this. It was OTT and it embarrassed me.

Preston, superbly redeveloped ground, good team of course. However the minority of their fans to our right really got my goat.

Am I alone in this?

I don't think age has anything to do with it, they aren't particularly humorous chants. Like DavieG said if it were racist or homophobic it would be condemned but this type of of sexism is still tolerated.

On the whole the majority of chants aren't terrifically funny, my garden shed never fails to bore me and just a small town in ... Is also lame in the extremem.

[Guest]

Who gives a shit. It's banter. What do you expect? If you go to a football match and moan about the chanting and don't like it, don't go.

It will always go on. It's hardly awful is it? A few chants.

Spot on

I do apologise if my sense of humour is on a much higher level, and for my low boredom threshold.

[Kilworthfox]

I do apologise if my sense of humour is on a much higher level, and for my low boredom threshold.

lovely retort

[StanSP]

Who gives a shit. It's banter. What do you expect? If you go to a football match and moan about the chanting and don't like it, don't go.

It will always go on. It's hardly awful is it? A few chants.

Most people go to watch football though. And not to listen to what some may find, chanting which is offensive.

[Budweiser]

Most people go to watch football though. And not to listen to what some may find, chanting which is offensive.

Well you should expect 'offensive' chanting surely?

What do you want everyone to do, play like nice children? It's not going to happen so you have to put up with it basically.

[fleckneymike]

Well you should expect 'offensive' chanting surely?

What do you want everyone to do, play like nice children? It's not going to happen so you have to put up with it basically.

So what you are saying is that if you are a woman you should expect to be harrassed at a football ground.

[BedsFox]

Well you should expect 'offensive' chanting surely?

Why?

If I offensively chanted in a pub, say, or a similar public place I may run the risk of being arrested for public order offences

Why is it allowed (tolerated last night by stewards who took not a blind bit of notice of it) at a football match?

[Budweiser]

Why?

If I offensively chanted in a pub, say, or a similar public place I may run the risk of being arrested for public order offences

Why is it allowed (tolerated last night by stewards who took not a blind bit of notice of it) at a football match?

What do you want the stewards to do? I wasn't at the game but say more then 200 people are doing it (easy) then they won't kick them all out? City chant 'rent-boy' at opposing fans. As I said, if you don't like it, no-one forces you to go, but really this isn't a huge problem is it?

[Muz]

Ha, it was funny at first, then it just got boring. We gave some banter back which egged them on a little bit too. The Preston fans involved will be remembering that until they mature, that's for sure.

me and you doing the 'pigeon' at them was quality.

I agree it was particularly moronic last night. They were barely watching the game. Every time I glanced across the whole section seemed to be posturing in our direction. It was embarrassing stuff, reminiscent of those kids at Tranmere away last year.

Exactly. And to add that there was one lad amongst all of the chavs in a liverpool goalkeeper shirt with Reina on the back really says it all

[Uncle Albert]

Just a bit of banter, but what must the woman have thought? Thousands of preston fans asking her if she takes it up the bum?

Sorry but that made me laugh.

[Guest]

Exactly. And to add that there was one lad amongst all of the chavs in a liverpool goalkeeper shirt with Reina on the back really says it all

I got a photo of him, it had to be done.

[Bellend Sebastian]

One of the reasons I like going to the football is that all the crets make me feel like I really am top of the food chain. Practically godlike, infact

[BedsFox]

No its not a huge problem, of course

In the away end last night, the only place LCFC fans could sit, were all ages, both sexes. Young kids, grandparents, mums dads, groups of young lads, couples

Some of those people will want to stand, some sit. Some would sing songs, some wouldn't. Basically one of the great things about football is all sorts of people go

All of us had to listen to mindless moronic chanting of from a small minority of fans not at all interested in the football, chanting stuff wholly inappropriate to common decency..and I..and possibly many others I don't know....put up with the crap.

It spoils the night a bit, that's all. For me, not speaking for anyone else

[Uncle Albert]

I'm sure I can remember hearing Leicester fans chanting to a woman at Hull away a few years back? Tevez usually tells me it.

Where's the difference?

[Muz]

I'm sure I can remember hearing Leicester fans chanting to a woman at Hull away a few years back? Tevez usually tells me it.

Where's the difference?

Yeah I remember that.

Like it or not it's all part of the football experience these days. If it offends you then I think your taking it way to seriously.

[BedsFox]

I'm sure I can remember hearing Leicester fans chanting to a woman at Hull away a few years back? Tevez usually tells me it.

Where's the difference?

None at all

[Uncle Albert]

Yeah I remember that.

Like it or not it's all part of the football experience these days. If it offends you then I think your taking it way to seriously.

It doesnt bother me mate, if you were aiming that at me.

[lildave3]

The person it was aimed at thought it was a laugh I believe?

[BedsFox]

Like it or not it's all part of the football experience these days.

Why though?

I am not sure I was aware of it until a couple of years ago

When I was at games as a child in the 70s, nothing like this. 80s and 90s, nope

Hooligans, sure, but not mindless moronic abuse (however unimportant) like this

back then football songs were clever, funny, made sense....(back in my day)

[Muz]

It doesnt bother me mate, if you were aiming that at me.

I was'nt brother

Why though?

I am not sure I was aware of it until a couple of years ago

When I was at games as a child in the 70s, nothing like this. 80s and 90s, nope

Hooligans, sure, but not mindless moronic abuse (however unimportant) like this

back then football songs were clever, funny, made sense....(back in my day)

I dont have the answers my friend. But there aint nothing you can do to stop it

[Bellend Sebastian]

Why though?

I am not sure I was aware of it until a couple of years ago

When I was at games as a child in the 70s, nothing like this. 80s and 90s, nope

Hooligans, sure, but not mindless moronic abuse (however unimportant) like this

back then football songs were clever, funny, made sense....(back in my day)

I agree that it's got more moronic as time has gone on; the humour and wit that used to be a big part of terrace 'banter' seems to have evaporated with the emphasis being on trying to cause offence. It's hardly surprising - I guess that the average age of fans has fallen, and the people that used to come up with the songs just don't seem to go anymore

[marbelladave]

What do you want the stewards to do? I wasn't at the game but say more then 200 people are doing it (easy) then they won't kick them all out? City chant 'rent-boy' at opposing fans. As I said, if you don't like it, no-one forces you to go, but really this isn't a huge problem is it?

No. In the scheme of things I guess it is not a huge problem.

However the filthy abuse that is passed off as harmless 'banter' is a sign of the times. A sick and broken society that is comfortable bringing up it's children to to be abusive, foul mouth thugs is nothing to be proud of.

Such behaviour is the main reason I travel to games independently and sit well away (whenever possible) from the more vocal supporters of either side. I miss the fun and games that are invariably involved when traveling with a group of friends but find it preferable to the abusive, thuggish behaviour of a large number of supporters.

I am no 'shrinking violet' in these matters, having sung, chanted and even fought for Leicester over the years and unlike many of you have stood in the Kop, The Stretford End, The Trent End etc, etc in the years before segregation. These days I find the abusive, childish posturing of many fans simply nauseating and prefer to stay well away from it.

[syston_fox]

The person it was aimed at thought it was a laugh I believe?

She did indeed and anyway the most shocking and disturbing chant of the night was surely "We want our dagger back!" sang by someone in our end... which I see has already been commented on by JME in t'other thread.

[Granno]

To Bedsfox -

But you are not alone

For I am here with you

Though we're far apart

You're always in my heart

But you are not alone