Promotion

[dandannieldanok]

If we stay in this division for a few years, equally brilliant. Solids finishes, competitive matches, good, affordable away days, winning and seeing us go undefeated regularly, 3pm kick offs, being ignored, no drama, mediocraty.

There's no guarantee of any of that though, we could do an Ipswich and next season be propping up the league. Basically, if we're in this position come January, we should get spending and have a real go, you can't just expect to be in this position every season.

[Guest]

I agree, seems a fashionably cool thing to say but I have a hard time thinking people actually believe it.

Fair enough. But I actually go to games, and whilst DDD thinks the best time we ever had was in the top flight, my favourite season was last. And it wasn't down to winning games, that was a bonus. Don't get me wrong, relegation left me devastated, but my overall matchday experience last season surpassed any day out following City in the top flight, and that includes winning at places like Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge.

I go to support my team, and I don't want to see us steam rollered week in, week out, but going to games is not just about the result. If that makes sense.

[Ford Super Sunday]

There's no guarantee of any of that though, we could do an Ipswich and next season be propping up the league. Basically, if we're in this position come January, we should get spending and have a real go, you can't just expect to be in this position every season.

Of course we should, I don't think Nigel will be saying 'nah Milan, i'm gonna play for 9th'

But I don't care what league we are in... I am not going to be desperately upset if we DON'T get promoted (well, unless it's a last minute defeat in a play-off or something) but you get the idea.

There's no guarantee of anything in football, there's no guarantee we'll ever see Premier League football again.

I wouldn't mind being a yo-yo team, get to experience the highs and lows of both league at alternate seasons... it may not be to everyones tastes, but it's not dull.

[lou]

Fair enough. But I actually go to games, and whilst DDD thinks the best time we ever had was in the top flight, my favourite season was last. And it wasn't down to winning games, that was a bonus. Don't get me wrong, relegation left me devastated, but my overall matchday experience last season surpassed any day out following City in the top flight, and that includes winning at places like Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge.

I go to support my team, and I don't want to see us steam rollered week in, week out, but going to games is not just about the result. If that makes sense.

Me too - havent enjoyed my football that much for years!

[Lillehamring]

I knew someone was gonna post this and I understand what youre saying but I cant stand another season of getting thrashed every week either. Plus the WS will be even more full of glory hunting tossers wholl start booing at the drop of a hat. Plus all the other stuff Lisa said

If we did go up I think Id just stick to away games

who's to say that that won't happen if we don't go up this season, can you be certain that next season in the CCC we won't come unstuck for any number of reasons - a couple of poor results and we are back in a relegation battle?

the longer we are in the CCC, the harder it will be to keep our better players and our young talent, and then you get into that horrible cycle of having to find cheap replacements for them, players who are often not good enough...not to mention the task of keeping hold of pearson

anyone who would rather stay in the CCC is barmy, remember our last few seasons in the CCC, we could just as easily return to that state without getting promoted. it's like saying 'i'd rather be 1-0 up in the 90th minute than 3-0 up'

there are enough crappy teams in the premier that won't have the momentum of a recently promoted side, who knows what players NP could attract in the prem.

people who are happy to stick at this level just to see us win are worse than glory supporters, same desire but less quality...

[Flynny]

We're a big enough club with a just about rich enough chairman to be able to build a team that could dominate this league, and then go up with a team that could compete. I know no teams are home-grown anymore but I'd much rather we made gradual improvements to the squad and gave people the chance to improve so that we can identify with the team and we keep players more than a couple of seasons. Better that than fluking promotion this season with a resilient but essentially average team and having to make 15 signings next season (and still going back down!).

I'd still like us to get promoted, I just won't be desperately disappointed if we don't.

[Shrenchel]

who's to say that that won't happen if we don't go up this season, can you be certain that next season in the CCC we won't come unstuck for any number of reasons - a couple of poor results and we are back in a relegation battle?

the longer we are in the CCC, the harder it will be to keep our better players and our young talent, and then you get into that horrible cycle of having to find cheap replacements for them, players who are often not good enough...not to mention the task of keeping hold of pearson

anyone who would rather stay in the CCC is barmy, remember our last few seasons in the CCC, we could just as easily return to that state without getting promoted. it's like saying 'i'd rather be 1-0 up in the 90th minute than 3-0 up'

there are enough crappy teams in the premier that won't have the momentum of a recently promoted side, who knows what players NP could attract in the prem.

people who are happy to stick at this level just to see us win are worse than glory supporters, same desire but less quality...

Nobody has said they want to stick at this level just to see us win games.

People mainly seem to be talking about the enjoyment of following the team away. No offence mate but obviously if you live in another country then that's not really an issue anyway, if I was still abroad I probably wouldn't have any qualms about us being in the prem either.

Yeah it does seem a bit stupid to spend your whole time cheering on the team to win when in reality you'd probably like the consequences of that less than the current situation but that's the paradox that having a top division with 45 quid match tickets, 12.45 kick-offs etc has given us.

[LCFC-ARAB]

I'd rather come second in the FA cup and get into europe and play some random eastern european team away than get promoted

[davieG]

Well for me it's just a case of finance.

I doubt very much whether I can afford to watch live LCFC games if we go up. So promotion for me = armchair fan.

I know what I'd prefer although of course there's no guarantee the way we are headed that I'll be able to afford Championship football.

[Edmund]

I no i am being brave as a new member of foxes-talk starting this topic but i have been with leicester through the good and the bad and this is the best i've seen us look in years i genuinely feel we can challenge for promotion this year. I can't remember the last time i had confidence in a Leicester team/squad or a Leicester manager.

I feel the next two games against QPR and West Brom will give us more of an idea of weather we can cut it at the top of this division, we have beaten Middlesborough put in a good show at sheffield united and could have had Newcastle on another day the only time i feel we have been shown up this season was Preston. Even when we don't really deserve it e.g Reading we are getting results!!

Squad wise i feel we have a great squad and with the addition of a solid right back maybe a loan deal and holding mid could be davids we have got a squad that could go somewhere this year!!!

We have a great manager, a strong squad and with a couple of additions in january i reckon we could get play-offs this year.

Any thoughts??????

Top post chap. Nothing wrong with a bit of optimism. Makes a big difference from the norm in here.

Is anyone seriously saying that they wouldn't swap places with Burnley this season?

This

The way football (and in particular the Premier League) is at present, I'd rather stay in this division and prioritise Cup competitions in all honesty.

Now your just being silly.

I dont want to get promoted either.

However, maintaining a healthy position in this league isn't exactly failure.

Exactly and the sooner the people realise that the better. There was an interview with Wayne Brown the other week and he said him and the squad were left bewildered that they got some boos at half time against Palace. Fair enough it wasn't the best first half of football but we weren't losing.

I don't understand this "I'd rather Leicester stayed in the Championship" stuff. I'd rather Leicester were losing 3-0 to Man Utd than scraping a 1-0 against an average Reading team or squaring 0-0 against a crap Derby side. If we don't want them to get promoted, what are you even cheering the team for? What is the point of even wanting a win?

And the talk of "we're not good enough to be the Premier League at the moment", well, of course we arn't. There would be a pre-season in the space of promotion and the first game, and in that time the manager would buy players who were good enough. If you observe Stoke, most of their team is quite average, but they have a work ethic and utilise tactics that get them results, there is no reason a Leicester team couldn't do the same.

Spot on.

People who think that being in the PL suddenly gets you pots of money are very much mistaken. Pompey are struggling financially, Hull are rumoured to be in the "Brown stuff" ( © Bilo). Even the top teams are heavily in debt, and would be screwed if their backers pulled out.

If you look around the Championship, the teams that are financially in the mire are teams that have been in the Premiership. Although this season seems to be different, teams that have been relegated to the Championship have struggled, and even relegated again; the teams relegated to League One last season were all recently in the Premiership.

So I personally find the whole PL thing a bit of a poisoned chalice.

This is true but with sound investment and a good manager with an eye for a bargain (Pearson) things can be achieved with out living beyond our means.

To all those not wanting us to be in the Premier League: What's the point of the club existing if it's not striving to be the best it can be? I know the Premier League has changed vastly and I do take on board some of the concerns, but the best times that this club have had have been in the Premier League/Old First Division. The reality is that the Championship is almost becoming Premiership-lite with increasing money and new stadia, so then what, get relegated again??

Exactly.

I'd rather come second in the FA cup and get into europe and play some random eastern european team away than get promoted

Second place doesn't go into Europe anymore. Just the winner and if the winner has already qualified it gets given to the next team in the PL without European qualification.

[Alexikokopops]

I don't want promotion this year.

[LCFC-ARAB]

Second place doesn't go into Europe anymore. Just the winner and if the winner has already qualified it gets given to the next team in the PL without European qualification.

i never knew that

oh well

i suppose i'll be happy with winning it

[Edmund]

i never knew that

oh well

i suppose i'll be happy with winning it

To be honest I think it's a silly rule. It was the only chance a team from the lower leagues had a chance of strutting their stuff around Europe.

Weren't Millwall in Europe only a few years back

[Fosse Boy]

Now your just being silly.

Come on, for all bar four clubs in this country their most realistic aim of glory is to win a cup. Thus, we should make our priority as a realistic ambition.

[TrickyTrev]

Fair enough. But I actually go to games, and whilst DDD thinks the best time we ever had was in the top flight, my favourite season was last. And it wasn't down to winning games, that was a bonus. Don't get me wrong, relegation left me devastated, but my overall matchday experience last season surpassed any day out following City in the top flight, and that includes winning at places like Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge.

I go to support my team, and I don't want to see us steam rollered week in, week out, but going to games is not just about the result. If that makes sense.

It does and last season was great. But it was only great because there was the novelty factor of going to grounds that you have never been before and because we were winning most weeks and thus on the way to getting promoted. If we spent more than a single season in League 1 it would have been a nightmare, watching The Walkers getting emptier and emptier.

More importantly The Championship is also nothing like League 1. Ticket prices are closer to premiership ticket prices, the grounds are generally newer and come with all the trappings of modern stadiums (£3.75 pints, goal celebration music e.t.c) but the standard of football is awful.

[Edmund]

Come on, for all bar four clubs in this country their most realistic aimof glory is to win a cup. Thus, we should make our priority as a realistic ambition.

I agree I would love to see us at Wembley again but realistically the chances of winning a trophy be it league cup or F.A cup is not realistic. I'm sure most teams give it a good try every year including the so called lower teams of PL and the championship but it's hard when your competing against the big clubs.

Again financially it's more rewarding to be promoted and more realistic achievement that winning a cup.

[TrickyTrev]

Well for me it's just a case of finance.

I doubt very much whether I can afford to watch live LCFC games if we go up. So promotion for me = armchair fan.

I know what I'd prefer although of course there's no guarantee the way we are headed that I'll be able to afford Championship football.

Now that I can understand as a reason. It actually makes sense rather than talk of plastics or better atmosphere.

[davieG]

I agree I would love to see us at Wembley again but realistically the chances of winning a trophy be it league cup or F.A cup is not realistic. I'm sure most teams give it a good try every year including the so called lower teams of PL and the championship but it's hard when your competing against the big clubs.

Again financially it's more rewarding to be promoted and more realistic achievement that winning a cup.

Do they? I got the impression they weren't too interested because survival in the Premiership so often means survival as a club so that's where they concentrate their efforts.

The Cups on the whole are a shadow of what they used to be with all but the mid table premier teams not that interested.

[LCFC-ARAB]

Now that I can understand as a reason. It actually makes sense rather than talk of plastics or better atmosphere.

those 2 are valid reasons for me

because it will affect my enjoyment of watching my team

[James.]

It does and last season was great. But it was only great because there was the novelty factor of going to grounds that you have never been before and because we were winning most weeks and thus on the way to getting promoted. If we spent more than a single season in League 1 it would have been a nightmare, watching The Walkers getting emptier and emptier.

More importantly The Championship is also nothing like League 1. Ticket prices are closer to premiership ticket prices, the grounds are generally newer and come with all the trappings of modern stadiums (£3.75 pints, goal celebration music e.t.c) but the standard of football is awful.

I pretty much agree. There was a huge novelty factor last season, I doubt Leeds fans are hoping they stay in League One and never make it back to the Premier.

That said I really don't know whether I'd want us to go up THIS season. Under Pearson I feel we are building something carefully and steadily. After a few losses in the Premiership and a trigger happy chairman it would far too easy for that to be undone.

However ultimately I would LOVE Leicester to return to the Premiership. And I'm in the fortuate position where the cost wouldn't put me off going to away games. The bottom line is I want the club to be as successful as possible, but on a long term sustainable basis.

[Houdini Logic]

I want to be relegated so I can finish off my 92...

[Guest]

It does and last season was great. But it was only great because there was the novelty factor of going to grounds that you have never been before and because we were winning most weeks and thus on the way to getting promoted. If we spent more than a single season in League 1 it would have been a nightmare, watching The Walkers getting emptier and emptier.

More importantly The Championship is also nothing like League 1. Ticket prices are closer to premiership ticket prices, the grounds are generally newer and come with all the trappings of modern stadiums (£3.75 pints, goal celebration music e.t.c) but the standard of football is awful.

The standard in the PL can be dire too; plus there's the added bonus of the "Biggies" playing their less experienced players against us.

Now that I can understand as a reason. It actually makes sense rather than talk of plastics or better atmosphere.

I mentioned price as well.

I want to be relegated so I can finish off my 92...

[Edmund]

Do they? I got the impression they weren't too interested because survival in the Premiership so often means survival as a club so that's where they concentrate their efforts.

The Cups on the whole are a shadow of what they used to be with all but the mid table premier teams not that interested.

I partly agree with that and I'm sure is in the back of the minds but rarely do you see teams weaken there side as such for the cup bar the top clubs in the Carling cup. So if anything I think it shows they want to win it more than others as it is a ticket into Europe which they might not get from the final league position. For example Arsenal, Liverpool weakened there teams last night yet Blackburn, Villa, Pompey etc played there strongest elevens. Yes you could say they have bigger squads but if these teams didn't care about the cup then why not just send the under 18 team out?

I doubt that any professional would not want to win all there games.

[TrickyTrev]

those 2 are valid reasons for me

because it will affect my enjoyment of watching my team

But the idea that Championship games have better atmospheres is absurd. Half empty stadiums don't make for good atmospheres.

[Lillehamring]

Come on, for all bar four clubs in this country their most realistic aim of glory is to win a cup. Thus, we should make our priority as a realistic ambition.

we're much more likely to win a cup in the premier, you only have to look at the o'neill era to see that...

anyway, i'll say one word which is reason enough to want to be in the premier:

wolves