Promotion

[Jordan]

If we get promoted sign 11 journey men on premiership wages we will get screwed and it will be a horrible season, but surely we won't make the same mistake again...

Agreed, but I'd still take Les Ferdinand back at age 67

[Bluefoxtim]

If you don't want promotion, what's the point of playing?

Surely with anything that has a tier or a leaderboard, the aim is to get to number 1.

[Captain...]

Agreed, but I'd still take Les Ferdinand back at age 67

I was seriously pissed off when he left, we had coaxed him and nursed through the season to ensure he would be able to play another, and he did, for Bolton.

We should have played him to death, then maybe we would have stayed up, we could have named a stand after him as a mark of respect.

[liamherbertlcfc]

If you don't want promotion, what's the point of playing?

Surely with anything that has a tier or a leaderboard, the aim is to get to number 1.

agreed

[OLD norfox]

boy, you certainly are looking at football through shit-tinted specs....

if it is as bad as you say there must be a lot of miserable football fans supporting premierships teams-

so, if we go up....

Would you enjoy being able to look down at the forest, derby and cov fans at work?

Would you enjoy watching some of the worlds best footballers week in week out?

Would you enjoy seeing your club tested at the highest level?

Would you enjoy actually having a fighting chance at getting to or winning a cup final?

Would you enjoy having potentially fewer teams to steal our better players and manager?

Would you enjoy extra money being available to maybe run a reserve team?

Would you enjoy not sitting in an embarrassingly half empty stadium plastics or not?

Would you enjoy local kids starting to wear city shirts instead of chelsea shirts?

Would you enjoy the possibilty of playing in europe?

and if we stay in the CCC

Would you enjoy watching all but 3 teams sit with 10 men behind the ball

Would you enjoy the splendor of hoof ball and head tennis for 80 minutes of most matches

Would you enjoy having to deal with losing our manager and players every other year when they get frustrated of not playing top flight footy

Would you enjoy having the fear off a relegation battle into L1

Would you enjoy midtable obscurity and the 4th round of the FA CUP and a glamour tie against Stoke City

Would you enjoy having topps tiles as your shirt sponsor

Would you enjoy Mandaric giving up and selling up to some oil baron

Would you enjoy Mandaric not being able to find a buyer and staying here for the next ten years...

I know how i'd answer these questions....

but I enjoy having topps tiles as my shirt sponsor

[suffolk fox]

He has a point re premiership ticket prices my mate is a season ticket holder at Chelsea and for certain games they have to pay (like City for extra games) extra for certain Cup games that aren't included in the season ticket price.

He takes his mate, Son and daughter and he reckons on average it costs him £180!!!!!!!

This, for 90 mins football is a bloody outrage and a joke!!!!!!

Corporate hospitality is killing football!!!!!

[Guest Basildon Fox]

He has a point re premiership ticket prices my mate is a season ticket holder at Chelsea and for certain games they have to pay (like City for extra games) extra for certain Cup games that aren't included in the season ticket price.

He takes his mate, Son and daughter and he reckons on average it costs him £180!!!!!!!

This, for 90 mins football is a bloody outrage and a joke!!!!!!

Corporate hospitality is killing football!!!!!

Agreed.

[Lillehamring]

Old norfox: but I enjoy having topps tiles as my shirt sponsor

coming from a person who lives near the end of the world i can understand that!

[Guest]

boy, you certainly are looking at football through shit-tinted specs....

if it is as bad as you say there must be a lot of miserable football fans supporting premierships teams-

so, if we go up....

Would you enjoy being able to look down at the forest, derby and cov fans at work?

Would you enjoy watching some of the worlds best footballers week in week out?

Would you enjoy seeing your club tested at the highest level?

Would you enjoy actually having a fighting chance at getting to or winning a cup final?

Would you enjoy having potentially fewer teams to steal our better players and manager?

Would you enjoy extra money being available to maybe run a reserve team?

Would you enjoy not sitting in an embarrassingly half empty stadium plastics or not?

Would you enjoy local kids starting to wear city shirts instead of chelsea shirts?

Would you enjoy the possibilty of playing in europe?

and if we stay in the CCC

Would you enjoy watching all but 3 teams sit with 10 men behind the ball

Would you enjoy the splendor of hoof ball and head tennis for 80 minutes of most matches

Would you enjoy having to deal with losing our manager and players every other year when they get frustrated of not playing top flight footy

Would you enjoy having the fear off a relegation battle into L1

Would you enjoy midtable obscurity and the 4th round of the FA CUP and a glamour tie against Stoke City

Would you enjoy having topps tiles as your shirt sponsor

Would you enjoy Mandaric giving up and selling up to some oil baron

Would you enjoy Mandaric not being able to find a buyer and staying here for the next ten years...

I know how i'd answer these questions....

I had some good banter with colleagues last season; divisions are irrelevant.

Not all Premiership clubs employ the world's best.

That's what the cups are for.

Who says we don't; the League Cup is certainly becoming less attractive to top tier clubs....

Whilst playing well, it's always a risk, regardless of division.

Money, as such, is not the issue.

From what perspective? Money or atmosphere?

It didn't happen last time....

I enjoyed the experience, but worry about time, costs etc.

That target's gone for this season.

Hasn't really happened.

We've lost players and managers to clubs not playing top flight footy. People come and go, that's life.

Not any more.

Midtable obscurity means players and managers won't be poached. And that's winnable.

Don't care about sponsors, to be honest.

He's not going to be here forever.

He's not going to be here forever.

[MC Prussian]

This whole promotion debate's a bit silly at the moment, innit?

[Webbo]

This whole promotion debate's a bit silly at the moment, innit?

That's the problem with internet forums. Somebody mentions something that was only a small thought at the back of their mind, probably only for something to say.

Somebody else disagrees strongly even though they probably don't really have any strong feelings on the subject, again probably for something to say.

Some banter ensues and some people take things personally even though it wasn't meant that way.

It's all nonsense really but it gives us something to talk about.

[MC Prussian]

That's the problem with internet forums. Somebody mentions something that was only a small thought at the back of their mind, probably only for something to say.

Somebody else disagrees strongly even though they probably don't really have any strong feelings on the subject, again probably for something to say.

Some banter ensues and some people take things personally even though it wasn't meant that way.

It's all nonsense really but it gives us something to talk about.

I just don't see the point; all I do is enjoy the moment, watching some great games of football this club has given to us recently (not always a joy to behold, but results speak points), culminating in the empathic win at Loftus Road, a rather rare feat.

I'm not going to lean out of the window - all I can say is that we've got quite a surprise package. Who would've bet on newly-promoted Leicester City passing the first third of the season as fourth in the second-best league in England (and, attendance-wise, Europe)?

Like DavieG's already posted before, this club's had its fair shares of rollercoaster seasons and off- and on-pitch scandals, so a phase as successful as this one should be enjoyed thoroughly - for the moment.

[Lillehamring]

I had some good banter with colleagues last season; divisions are irrelevant. but deep down it's still nicest to be no 1

Not all Premiership clubs employ the world's best. but compared to the CCC, how many french, italian, spanish, brazilian internationals do you see

That's what the cups are for. how many cup matches are played against top prem teams, 1 or 2 a season, if you're lucky

Who says we don't; the League Cup is certainly becoming less attractive to top tier clubs.... how many CCC teams have reached or won a final compared to the prem

Whilst playing well, it's always a risk, regardless of division. yes, but much less if your mid table in the prem than mid table in the CCC

Money, as such, is not the issue. it is to the club, it is imperative

From what perspective? Money or atmosphere? either, a full stadium is always louder than a half full one, even if only slightly, and it looks better

It didn't happen last time....

I enjoyed the experience, but worry about time, costs etc. but don't tell me you'd never do it again

That target's gone for this season.

Hasn't really happened.

We've lost players and managers to clubs not playing top flight footy. People come and go, that's life. ok, i'll quote you on that if we don't go up and pearson gets a better offer

Not any more. say's who? we could be down there before xmas, as long as we are in the CCC a relegation to L1 is always a possiblity

Midtable obscurity means players and managers won't be poached. And that's winnable. megson was poached when we weren't even midtable

Don't care about sponsors, to be honest.

He's not going to be here forever.

He's not going to be here forever. the last three i was being funny

come on, lisa, i know what you're saying, but this stubborn resistance to promotion is making you sound like one of those grumpy buggers in the east stand who 'remember when it were game f'gentlemen'

i'd love us to go up now and hopefully have a decent crack at it, just to see you adamantly refusing to enjoy yourself, cause you know that if we go up and exceed expectations as we are doing this year you will be jumping for joy like the rest of us

[Shrenchel]

You live in Oslo, what the fvck do you care if a ticket costs 50 quid and some people that have been going away week in, week out for years can't afford to anymore?!

[Guest]

come on, lisa, i know what you're saying, but this stubborn resistance to promotion is making you sound like one of those grumpy buggers in the east stand who 'remember when it were game f'gentlemen'

i'd love us to go up now and hopefully have a decent crack at it, just to see you adamantly refusing to enjoy yourself, cause you know that if we go up and exceed expectations as we are doing this year you will be jumping for joy like the rest of us

I just don't like the Premiership, and I don't like what it stands for and what it does for the game. I guess I am some kind of footballing Marxist.

[Lillehamring]

You live in Oslo, what the fvck do you care if a ticket costs 50 quid and some people that have been going away week in, week out for years can't afford to anymore?!

firstly, excessive pricing is not exclusive to the premiership, there are plenty of real fans who were unable to attend as often as they would have liked last year in league 1 - the argument for the premiership is surely the quality one expects to get for one's money.

you would pay more to see a show in the west end than you would at the little theatre. the problem is not being in the premiership the problem is the greed of teams and players throughout the league system.

and secondly, i care enormously about my club, but no one fan's needs are bigger than the club - promotion is in the best intereest of leicester city, i sympathise with those who will find the increased costs unpleasant, but such is the price of success...

and i think your tone and attitude are awful, beacuse i no longer live near enough to attend doesn't make me any less of a fan than you - i've been a die hard for 30 years, and used to even take a loan off the old man to pay for my season ticket when funds were tight.

staying in the CCC is not as healthy financially anyway - http://www.accountancyage.com/accountancya...et-prices-hiked

[lou]

come on, lisa, i know what you're saying, but this stubborn resistance to promotion is making you sound like one of those grumpy buggers in the east stand who 'remember when it were game f'gentlemen'

i'd love us to go up now and hopefully have a decent crack at it, just to see you adamantly refusing to enjoy yourself, cause you know that if we go up and exceed expectations as we are doing this year you will be jumping for joy like the rest of us

She is one of the grumpy buggers!

[marbelladave]

I just don't like the Premiership, and I don't like what it stands for and what it does for the game. I guess I am some kind of footballing Marxist.

Sign me up comrade!....

At it's highest levels the EPL is a great example of everything that is wrong about football, it's ruthless exploitation of all forms of money making leaves the sport of football much the poorer. I am a great believer that you play football to win but in the EPL in particular the lengths that some clubs go to in order to maintain their place on the gravy train is sickening. The deification of star players many of whom do not deserve your respect let alone admiration, the routine abuse given to officials, often by players and club officials who are nothing more than cheap cheats themselves leaves me cold.

As for the abuse handed out by so called fans to players and officials, well....... :dunno:

On the other hand it is, for our club, the pinnacle of our sport and it would be absurd not to aspire to be the best you can, why else play? I just want my club to maintain a bit of dignity in the way it behaves and honesty in it's dealings with it's community and for a club of our size that is entirely possible. Just look at the examples set by clubs like Burnley, Sunderland, even WBA who despite relegation have put their money to good use and continue in good shape.

[ACF]

I would love for us to go up. But I don't want to get hammered every week a la Wolves and Derby.

Next season our main goal should be promotion, this season in my eyes should be consolidation/play-off place push.

[Babylon]

I know what Lisa is saying, I don't like the premier either. But if handled correctly promotion could wipe out many of the clubs debts, if MM stayed and used is wisely (slim chance I know). Sod buying £5m players on 30k a week, use the money to pay off the stadium.

Long term future > short term glory.

In reality if we got promoted we'd be sold, someone would pump in millions to buy players we can't afford and then do a runner two years later leaving us in the shit.

[marbelladave]

I know what Lisa is saying, I don't like the premier either. But if handled correctly promotion could wipe out many of the clubs debts, if MM stayed and used is wisely (slim chance I know). Sod buying £5m players on 30k a week, use the money to pay off the stadium.

Long term future > short term glory.

In reality if we got promoted we'd be sold, someone would pump in millions to buy players we can't afford and then do a runner two years later leaving us in the shit.

As I said, promotion could be very good for us if managed correctly.

Promotion >> Strengthen squad affordably >> aim for 15th spot >> if we don't make it use the money to build the club >> strengthen again >> push for promotion and do it all again.

Calm solid management, keeping the fan base informed and onside with what we are trying to achieve etc.

No boom and bust.

As for the fans on a budget, pick your away games, there are bargains about, treat yourself to a 'big' game or two and watch the rest down the pub on Sky. I know it's not the same as going every week but as an expat (usually) I am used to that, but having said that I have managed 9 out of 15 games so far this season and would hate to have to cut back!

[Shrenchel]

firstly, excessive pricing is not exclusive to the premiership, there are plenty of real fans who were unable to attend as often as they would have liked last year in league 1 - the argument for the premiership is surely the quality one expects to get for one's money.

you would pay more to see a show in the west end than you would at the little theatre. the problem is not being in the premiership the problem is the greed of teams and players throughout the league system.

and secondly, i care enormously about my club, but no one fan's needs are bigger than the club - promotion is in the best intereest of leicester city, i sympathise with those who will find the increased costs unpleasant, but such is the price of success...

and i think your tone and attitude are awful, beacuse i no longer live near enough to attend doesn't make me any less of a fan than you - i've been a die hard for 30 years, and used to even take a loan off the old man to pay for my season ticket when funds were tight.

staying in the CCC is not as healthy financially anyway - http://www.accountancyage.com/accountancya...et-prices-hiked

I didn't say it made you any less of a fan, I've lived abroad, doesn't make you any less a fanatic. Clearly though, it makes issues around following the team home and away of pretty low importance. As much as you try to empathise, if something is not gunna affect you then you're not too likely to really give a fvck.

[Sly]

Personally I want us to get promoted and I want us to win the Premier League.

People can laugh and say realistically it winning the Premier League is a possibility for 4 clubs but on paper it isn't.

It's 11 men against 11 men on match day and over a duration of 90 minutes why shouldn't we be capable of out scoring the opposition no matter who we play? The difference in technical ability between a one of the top four sides and the rest isn't that great. If it was they'd spank team week in/week out, which they don't/

You don't need a team of big name players to win the league, you just need the team with better abilty, work ethic, tactics and squad harmony.

..... or have I spent to long on FM this week?

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Personally I want us to get promoted and I want us to win the Premier League.

People can laugh and say realistically it winning the Premier League is a possibility for 4 clubs but on paper it isn't.

It's 11 men against 11 men on match day and over a duration of 90 minutes why shouldn't we be capable of out scoring the opposition no matter who we play? The difference in technical ability between a one of the top four sides and the rest isn't that great. If it was they'd spank team week in/week out, which they don't/

You don't need a team of big name players to win the league, you just need the team with better abilty, work ethic, tactics and squad harmony.

..... or have I spent to long on FM this week?

Me thinks too much

[samlcfc]

You don't need a team of big name players to win the league, you just need the team with better abilty, work ethic, tactics and squad harmony.

The big teams in the league have all that. As well as the great organisation and work ethic, they have big names. You will not win the league with what you said but you could do alright. Hull did it last year for the most part with some great organisation but it all seems to have gone to shit recently