Guest Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Probably not the best place to have an online spat!!! eh chaps Probably not, but let's put it this way. If I was diagnosed with cancer, I would cling to every sodding hope I had, toxic or not.
MC Prussian Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Probably not the best place to have an online spat!!! eh chaps I mostly refrain from trying to teach old men new tricks, but I just couldn't help myself today.
Sir Fynwy Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Deliver your words of comfort by all means. I've been surrounded by family and friends who've had cancer these last couple of years and their chemotherapy was a total waste of time. Just a stack of suffering which may or may not have bought a little mostly miserable extra time at best.All involved died 18 months, with their ages ranging from 40-58. If everyone you've known has been miraculously cured I'm pleased for you. I don't know about more people surviving cancer. I do know that more people seem to be getting it. Enormous numbers at that. Be useful to know the reasons why cos then we might start to best know what to do about it. Meanwhile the following from cancerresearchinformation.com makes interesting reading: "Here’s a startling fact regarding oncologists, the so-called cancer specialists of conventional medicine, and chemotherapy, one of their main and favorite cancer-fighting weapons. "This was obtained from a McGill Cancer Center survey which was cited in the book “Reclaiming Our Health”, written by John Robbins. "75% of Americans diagnosed with cancer are said to receive chemotherapy treatment, which is of course suggested (and prescribed) by their oncologists. "BUT… "75% of oncologists also said that if they had cancer, they themselves would NOT use chemotherapy treatment. Why? Because of its “ineffectiveness and its unacceptable toxicity”. Yes, might as well get the bolt gun out. You are a Twat Tony.
Katy Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Oh what terribly sad news I'll never forget his amazingly curly hair. What an evil disease cancer is.
Webbo Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Nobody knows how they would react until they've suffered cancer themselves or seen a loved one suffer from it. we should all just accept that people have their own opinions on this and not judge them for it.
bluebeau Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Let us show some respect FT's. Please remember that Bobbys' family will read this forum. I remember Bobby as a good hardworking defender, a full head of dark curly hair, he always showed his loyalty to the shirt & to the supporters. Good luck Bobby, best wishes to you & your family.
Guest Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Let us show some respect FT's. Please remember that Bobbys' family will read this forum. This is a difficult topic to split, and deletion is not yet appropriate. I can justify the response from Sir F; his dad died from cancer. His dad was convinced he'd be cured right up to the end. I know which side of the line I fall, and I would hope that if Bobby's family read this thread, they would fall the same side and understand why Thracian's post has not been well received. It deserves a response.
Nationwider Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 I remember him, just, as a really tenacious player with a massive barnet. Really sorry to hear this news.
lou Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Fond memories of Bobby with that mop of hair. So sad and the treatment does work in a great deal of cases. Fingers crossed
Cobbo Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 I hope Bobby is able to enjoy having friends and family beside him, it's amazing how people whom are ill can interact still with those they've known for many years. My dad had cancer in 2001 and chemo helped cure him and gave him 6 more really good years before sadly a new cancer got him and was terminal. It is not a thankless treatment, that is for sure. Best times of my life with my dad were following his first cancer.
Geo V Posted 29 January 2010 Posted 29 January 2010 Deary me Thrac, you talk for the sake of talking and try to post things that differ from the masses and most of the time you comeout with garbage with todays post to be particularly stupid. My mother died of breast cancer 10 years ago but she I am glad for the extra time she had after Chemo. On the other side, my auntie had cancer, had Chemo and touch wood has been clear for 6 years. Dont write everyone off your heartless twat. No offence of course. Anyway lets hope that this thread doesnt become a farce and slide off topic and keep it to where it needs to be. I hope Bobby can soldier on and if he can get through for the sake of his family who will no doubt be devastated with whats going on. Kee fighting Bobby!
Thracian Posted 30 January 2010 Posted 30 January 2010 Nobody knows how they would react until they've suffered cancer themselves or seen a loved one suffer from it. we should all just accept that people have their own opinions on this and not judge them for it. I'd agree with that but I greatly doubt you'll get certain folk on here to give credence to any view but their own. All I've spoken is the truth in my experience. Unlike them, I don't mock or revile anyone who's experience has been different. Would that cancer didn't exist and we could all live to be 100 and die in our sleep. But that doesn't mean there aren't many, many people who - faced with terminal illness - wouldn't choose a dignified end to the prospect of prolonged medical trial and error. I find it curious how our quite strongly Christian society still greets the prospect of mortality with horror. It's as if, perhaps, they don't truly believe in anything beyond. Maybe my wife's own brush with death and her pre-operation experience made that easier for me. But then so many nowadays seem to reject the theory of there being anything beyond our mortal lives. No-one can be sure of the truth. But I'm quite at peace with my view, despite the accusations of negativity. .
hibeeleicester Posted 30 January 2010 Author Posted 30 January 2010 Come on guys. Lets not have a domestic here.
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