Scow Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 Do you agree with this idea? I personally think it's a waste of money...
Tomassi Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 its a loada fockwat.. why have identity cards when u can just use your birth certificate or passport..
Steven Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 its a loada fockwat..why have identity cards when u can just use your birth certificate or passport.. 110946[/snapback] So that your every movement can be tracked.
TrickyTrev Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 "They" do come up with more and more bizarre ways to waste our money don't they? 10/10 for this one, a counter terroism measure that will take a decade to implement!
Steven Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 "They" do come up with more and more bizarre ways to waste our money don't they? 10/10 for this one, a counter terroism measure that will take a decade to implement! 110978[/snapback] Whatever it is, it is not a counter Terrorism measure. Here the "they" are Government who are supposed to serve the People, I am not sure that happens any more. <_<
Anish Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 Just another excuse for delving into people's personal lives. Completely cost-inefficient, just like many things that the government does.
Babylon Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it.
Steven Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_<
Babylon Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_< 111022[/snapback] I really don't care if the government know everything I do. They can pry into my life as much as they want. Why do I care if they know I go to waitrose/tesco? It isn't going to make any difference. I think the fact that the police could stop someone dodgy in the street and instantly know who that person is can only be a good thing.
FNQ Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 Like they said on 'faq u' - At what point during planning a terrorist attack will the authorities ask to see your identity card?
Steven Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_< 111022[/snapback] I really don't care if the government know everything I do. They can pry into my life as much as they want. Why do I care if they know I go to waitrose/tesco? It isn't going to make any difference. I think the fact that the police could stop someone dodgy in the street and instantly know who that person is can only be a good thing. 111034[/snapback] Many a Politburo Chief found that argument persuasive as well. <_<
Babylon Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_< 111022[/snapback] I really don't care if the government know everything I do. They can pry into my life as much as they want. Why do I care if they know I go to waitrose/tesco? It isn't going to make any difference. I think the fact that the police could stop someone dodgy in the street and instantly know who that person is can only be a good thing. 111034[/snapback] Many a Politburo Chief found that argument persuasive as well. <_< 111070[/snapback] It's going to be one of those 50% for 50% against things. There is no right or wrong in this argument really.
Scow Posted 18 May 2005 Author Posted 18 May 2005 I wouldn't have a problem in having one, however, I just think it's an uneccessary measure.
Steven Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_< 111022[/snapback] I really don't care if the government know everything I do. They can pry into my life as much as they want. Why do I care if they know I go to waitrose/tesco? It isn't going to make any difference. I think the fact that the police could stop someone dodgy in the street and instantly know who that person is can only be a good thing. 111034[/snapback] Many a Politburo Chief found that argument persuasive as well. <_< 111070[/snapback] It's going to be one of those 50% for 50% against things. There is no right or wrong in this argument really. 111137[/snapback] There is a right and wrong here, but you and I will never agree.
Babylon Posted 18 May 2005 Posted 18 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_< 111022[/snapback] I really don't care if the government know everything I do. They can pry into my life as much as they want. Why do I care if they know I go to waitrose/tesco? It isn't going to make any difference. I think the fact that the police could stop someone dodgy in the street and instantly know who that person is can only be a good thing. 111034[/snapback] Many a Politburo Chief found that argument persuasive as well. <_< 111070[/snapback] It's going to be one of those 50% for 50% against things. There is no right or wrong in this argument really. 111137[/snapback] There is a right and wrong here, but you and will never agree. 111140[/snapback] Ha ha ha... neither will you!!!
stez Posted 19 May 2005 Posted 19 May 2005 its a loada fockwat..why have identity cards when u can just use your birth certificate or passport.. 110946[/snapback] So that your every movement can be tracked. 110974[/snapback] if this, they want to follow me about they're more than welcome but they'll get bored
C-man Posted 19 May 2005 Posted 19 May 2005 Its like watching leicester city at some opoints last year. A wate of money.
Guest Posted 19 May 2005 Posted 19 May 2005 Firstly, I've nothing to hide, so on that point I don't care. Secondly, as someone who still gets asked for ID ( ) it doesn't bother me. Although this then raises the question that my driving licence is sufficient in this case, and the proposed ID card looks very similar, why don't we just use that as an ID card instead? Without all the extra crap they want like biometrics etc?
Alexikokopops Posted 19 May 2005 Posted 19 May 2005 I wouldn't have a problem in having one, however, I just think it's an uneccessary measure. 111139[/snapback] Ditto.
kenny Posted 19 May 2005 Posted 19 May 2005 A lot of money for something that will take so long to come into effect. Would I have a problem having one, the answer is no. If you haven't got something to hide I don't see the trouble with it. 111011[/snapback] If I am walking about as an innocent subject, which I do, why do I need to give any information to the Government, which they will abuse, and why do I need to identify myself. If I am not doing anything illegal how can any Government have the right to start poking into my private affairs even if that is just to go to Waitrose. It is an internal Passport in the old Soviet-style. I know why so many East Europeans come to the UK, it reminds them of the old days. <_< 111022[/snapback] I knew you were posh Steven, now it has been confirmed.
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