Invitation to Hull fans

[bluebeau]

None of us have a crystal ball, so it will be interesting to see where LCFC & Hull finish in the Championship at the end of the new season.

I would like to invite Hull fans to come back on to this forum next May, & lets find out who has got the bragging rights?

My money will be on The Foxes finishing above Hull, unless Mandaric is so bloody stupid to appoint.......Dowie, Hart, Coleman, Gregory, or Adams.

Will Pearson still be at Hull come next May?

[Alexikokopops]

What do we even need to brag to each other? Do people really care that much? Nigel Pearson could have moved to Timbuk-****ing-tu for all I care, the only thing that concerns me is him leaving in the first place.

[Callabinho]

Its difficult to say!

Does anybody know if we are struggling financially ?

Are we going to loose big important players ?

Will we bring any good signings in ?

Will be be able to afford a good Manager ?

And what happens if we appoint someone like Dowie or Rodgers ?

We need answers ! after the support we have given this year we deserve answers !

[Bellend Sebastian]

I'd like to invite the Hull fans round for a cup of tea and a nice bit of cake

[Corky]

As long as we finish top, couldn't care less where Hull end up

[Guest Bilo]

My money would and will be staying firmly in my wallet.

We have no idea what the expectations are at Hull. The breathtakingly arrogant Hull spindoctors that have infested this forum would have you believe that their club needn't even bother kicking a ball to be promoted this season because of their unbridled wealth and Brazil 1970-esque squad talent, but reality seems to fly in the face of that. If the attitude of the Hull trolls is indicative of the expectations of the club as a whole, I fear for Pearson. He's inheriting a dispirited squad with little transfer funds to bolster it and a new manager takes time to make an impact at times. While you could liken their situation now to ours in the summer of 2008, it would be simplistic to do so as we were in a position to outspend most clubs in the division comfortably, were a bigger draw for players than every club in the division with the exception of Leeds and already had a squad that was far too talented for that division. None of these can be said about Hull and Pearson is likely to find it harder to turn the situation around. If Adam Pearson thinks like some of the Hull fans on here, Nigel Pearson will have to buy his Christmas turkey from Netto to save money while on the dole.

If expectations are more managed, he can do well there. It'll take time for him to make an impact there with Hull on a bit of a downward spiral over the past 18 months but make an impact he can. Shakespeare and Walsh will help to bring in good loanees and Bosmans and while these will take time to make an impact, they will do so. But promotion this season is probably unlikely for Hull with them having to take an axe to the wage bill and playing staff. They will need time to settle things down and acclimatise to this division again. If Hull are intelligent enough to realise this, which is entirely possible, and keep Pearson on for a while, he can have a successful time there.

As for us, Christ knows!

Mandaric doesn't exactly have a great record of picking managers and it's an open secret that we aren't rolling in money. It's also an open secret that MM and Hoos aren't great to work for. However, if he appoints a man he already knows and respects then he may well keep his nose out of most proceedings and let the new man do his job. It's already been understood for some time that Mandaric and Sousa are close friends and if Sousa was appointed, the relationship between chairman and manager could be far healthier than it was under Pearson. With a good playing squad and firm foundations already in place, he could do an excellent job here with more firepower than he had to work with at Swansea, hopefully eliminating the lack of goals problem. The fact that he'd have the team to do it, including good ball players like Hobbs, Tunchev, Wellens, King and Fryatt would suit him down to the ground. Same would go for Mowbray, O'Driscoll or Magilton if they were appointed.

There is the second option of course. That Milan learned nothing from 07-08 and starts the managerial merry-go-round again with a succession of unsuitable long ball merchants who ruin the stability and team spirit of the squad. Though I'm actually optimistic this won't happen. Firstly, Milan's financial situation will mean he won't want to be paying off contracts after three months again, so is likely to go for a safer choice than plump for gambles like Martin Allen again. He's likely to go for someone who knows this division over someone who's up-and-coming in the lower leagues and could be out of their depth. Also, the new manager will have a far better base to build on than Martin Allen did in 2008 with some of the players that were here then. We also don't have the money to waste on players like Sergio Hellings, Hossein Kaebi and Casino Jimmy as we did then. The same mistakes are therefore unlikely to be made again.

Option Three is the takeover comes to fruition, Milan either leaves or becomes less influential and a new chairman takes his place. This will obviously bring new money into the club, meaning the new manager will have funds to improve an already strong squad. New owners aren't always a good thing of course, and much would depend on whether the new owner was a Mandaric/Briatore or a Randy Lerner. With rumours of new investors coming from everywhere from Poland to Thailand, it would be foolish to speculate on this option much further.

So to summarise, who knows? Much can and will happen to both Hull and Leicester between now and May, and any fan of either club who already calls the winner of this imagined two way battle is a much braver man than me.

[Alexikokopops]

We have no idea what the expectations are at Hull. The breathtakingly arrogant Hull spindoctors that have infested this forum would have you believe that their club needn't even bother kicking a ball to be promoted this season because of their unbridled wealth and Brazil 1970-esque squad talent, but reality seems to fly in the face of that. If the attitude of the Hull trolls is indicative of the expectations of the club as a whole, I fear for Pearson.

From what I've read quite a few of them have been reasonable, and just saying "actually, we're pretty similar at the moment, and despite our history of being in the lower reaches of the league there's still a lot going for us".

[Guest Bilo]

From what I've read quite a few of them have been reasonable, and just saying "actually, we're pretty similar at the moment, and despite our history of being in the lower reaches of the league there's still a lot going for us".

For every one of those there's another who says they have the parachute payments and have retained most of their Premiership additions, and should therefore be aiming for promotion. Conveniently ignoring the fact that the players remaining are the ones they haven't had offers for. Hull fans probably need to accept that mid-table is realistic and a play-off push would be a bonus, much like us this season. They certainly don't look much further along than we do anyway.

[Alexikokopops]

For every one of those there's another who says they have the parachute payments and have retained most of their Premiership additions, and should therefore be aiming for promotion. Conveniently ignoring the fact that the players remaining are the ones they haven't had offers for. Hull fans probably need to accept that mid-table is realistic and a play-off push would be a bonus, much like us this season. They certainly don't look much further along than we do anyway.

I'd disagree. I don't remember anyone saying they're going to boom straight back into the Premiership, with the possible exception of Paleface who said that relegated clubs usually piss the Championship. Oh, and GaryParker was a bit of an idiot and could have said anything.

Edit: Just plucking some names out of the air - while Ghurkin was irritating, he just banged on about how their finances aren't as terrible as people think, originallambrettaman and albionfagan were more concerned with just sticking up for the club when some people were claiming they were of similar stature to Bishop's Stortford. Paleface said the one thing about relegated teams usually pissing the Championship, and GaryParker was clearly just on a very obvious wind-up.

[bluebeau]

My money would and will be staying firmly in my wallet.

We have no idea what the expectations are at Hull. The breathtakingly arrogant Hull spindoctors that have infested this forum would have you believe that their club needn't even bother kicking a ball to be promoted this season because of their unbridled wealth and Brazil 1970-esque squad talent, but reality seems to fly in the face of that. If the attitude of the Hull trolls is indicative of the expectations of the club as a whole, I fear for Pearson. He's inheriting a dispirited squad with little transfer funds to bolster it and a new manager takes time to make an impact at times. While you could liken their situation now to ours in the summer of 2008, it would be simplistic to do so as we were in a position to outspend most clubs in the division comfortably, were a bigger draw for players than every club in the division with the exception of Leeds and already had a squad that was far too talented for that division. None of these can be said about Hull and Pearson is likely to find it harder to turn the situation around. If Adam Pearson thinks like some of the Hull fans on here, Nigel Pearson will have to buy his Christmas turkey from Netto to save money while on the dole.

If expectations are more managed, he can do well there. It'll take time for him to make an impact there with Hull on a bit of a downward spiral over the past 18 months but make an impact he can. Shakespeare and Walsh will help to bring in good loanees and Bosmans and while these will take time to make an impact, they will do so. But promotion this season is probably unlikely for Hull with them having to take an axe to the wage bill and playing staff. They will need time to settle things down and acclimatise to this division again. If Hull are intelligent enough to realise this, which is entirely possible, and keep Pearson on for a while, he can have a successful time there.

As for us, Christ knows!

Mandaric doesn't exactly have a great record of picking managers and it's an open secret that we aren't rolling in money. It's also an open secret that MM and Hoos aren't great to work for. However, if he appoints a man he already knows and respects then he may well keep his nose out of most proceedings and let the new man do his job. It's already been understood for some time that Mandaric and Sousa are close friends and if Sousa was appointed, the relationship between chairman and manager could be far healthier than it was under Pearson. With a good playing squad and firm foundations already in place, he could do an excellent job here with more firepower than he had to work with at Swansea, hopefully eliminating the lack of goals problem. The fact that he'd have the team to do it, including good ball players like Hobbs, Tunchev, Wellens, King and Fryatt would suit him down to the ground. Same would go for Mowbray, O'Driscoll or Magilton if they were appointed.

There is the second option of course. That Milan learned nothing from 07-08 and starts the managerial merry-go-round again with a succession of unsuitable long ball merchants who ruin the stability and team spirit of the squad. Though I'm actually optimistic this won't happen. Firstly, Milan's financial situation will mean he won't want to be paying off contracts after three months again, so is likely to go for a safer choice than plump for gambles like Martin Allen again. He's likely to go for someone who knows this division over someone who's up-and-coming in the lower leagues and could be out of their depth. Also, the new manager will have a far better base to build on than Martin Allen did in 2008 with some of the players that were here then. We also don't have the money to waste on players like Sergio Hellings, Hossein Kaebi and Casino Jimmy as we did then. The same mistakes are therefore unlikely to be made again.

Option Three is the takeover comes to fruition, Milan either leaves or becomes less influential and a new chairman takes his place. This will obviously bring new money into the club, meaning the new manager will have funds to improve an already strong squad. New owners aren't always a good thing of course, and much would depend on whether the new owner was a Mandaric/Briatore or a Randy Lerner. With rumours of new investors coming from everywhere from Poland to Thailand, it would be foolish to speculate on this option much further.

So to summarise, who knows? Much can and will happen to both Hull and Leicester between now and May, and any fan of either club who already calls the winner of this imagined two way battle is a much braver man than me.

That's an excellent report Bilo. No mud slinging or childish insults. Well done!

[look_back_in_amber]

None of us have a crystal ball, so it will be interesting to see where LCFC & Hull finish in the Championship at the end of the new season.

I would like to invite Hull fans to come back on to this forum next May, & lets find out who has got the bragging rights?

My money will be on The Foxes finishing above Hull, unless Mandaric is so bloody stupid to appoint.......Dowie, Hart, Coleman, Gregory, or Adams.

Will Pearson still be at Hull come next May?

Bragging rights???? On current form of both teams it could be more like mourning rights <_<

[ousefox]

Bragging rights???? On current form of both teams it could be more like mourning rights <_<

I wish NP was still here tbh.

[look_back_in_amber]

I wish NP was still here tbh.

Don't know if you're aware but NP was admitted to hospital this week with chest pains, quite fortunate for him really 'cos it avoided him having to witness our dismal surrender to Doncaster today

[look_back_in_amber]

None of us have a crystal ball, so it will be interesting to see where LCFC & Hull finish in the Championship at the end of the new season.

I would like to invite Hull fans to come back on to this forum next May, & lets find out who has got the bragging rights?

My money will be on The Foxes finishing above Hull, unless Mandaric is so bloody stupid to appoint.......Dowie, Hart, Coleman, Gregory, or Adams.

Will Pearson still be at Hull come next May?

Well we both had quite a turbulent season, new owners, new managers and new players but both clubs fell slightly short at the final hurdle, although you did finish a couple of points in front of us so the glory is yours Being honest I'm more than a little pleased that we never went up, or even qualified for the play offs, this time around as we are nowhere near ready.

On a positive note NP, Shakey and Steve Walsh have done a fantastic job, bearing in mind the turn over in players combined with the dire financial situation that came to light earlier in the season, to not only keep us in the division but give us a top half finish. I'm guessing that next season will see us both in a stronger position with an 'expectation' of being in the shake up for automatic or play off glory come the end of the season.

Anyway, enjoy your summer people and good luck for next season

[Finnegan]

I always love the "I'm glad we didn't go up" line.

Our fans are just as guilty of it at times, but still. Complete and total bollocks. The whole point of being in this division is winning it, what's the point in taking part if you're going to be "glad" you didn't finish any higher?

That's not to say you shouldn't be satisfied with meeting your own expectations - but who'd REALLY volunteer to do worse?

[Corky]

Our away form, your home form were the let-downs this season.

[Basingstoke Fox]

Well we both had quite a turbulent season, new owners, new managers and new players but both clubs fell slightly short at the final hurdle, although you did finish a couple of points in front of us so the glory is yours Being honest I'm more than a little pleased that we never went up, or even qualified for the play offs, this time around as we are nowhere near ready.

On a positive note NP, Shakey and Steve Walsh have done a fantastic job, bearing in mind the turn over in players combined with the dire financial situation that came to light earlier in the season, to not only keep us in the division but give us a top half finish. I'm guessing that next season will see us both in a stronger position with an 'expectation' of being in the shake up for automatic or play off glory come the end of the season.

Anyway, enjoy your summer people and good luck for next season

We finished higher than you!

[look_back_in_amber]

We finished higher than you!

Congratulations

[look_back_in_amber]

Our away form, your home form were the let-downs this season.

Very, very true, our away form combined with your home form would have probably seen us, or you, win the Chump

[look_back_in_amber]

I always love the "I'm glad we didn't go up" line.

Our fans are just as guilty of it at times, but still. Complete and total bollocks. The whole point of being in this division is winning it, what's the point in taking part if you're going to be "glad" you didn't finish any higher?

That's not to say you shouldn't be satisfied with meeting your own expectations - but who'd REALLY volunteer to do worse?

You're right of course, if promotion arrived at the doorstep of any ill prepared team all, or the vast majority, of its supporters would lap it up without a shadow of doubt, it's just that the memories of being ill prepared are still so fresh in my mind from the last time we hit the 'promised land'

[Finnegan]

it's just that the memories of being ill prepared are still so fresh in my mind from the last time we hit the 'promised land'

You weren't ill prepared, you had a decent team and you rocketed up the league.

Your manager then choked and fucked it all up.

[look_back_in_amber]

You weren't ill prepared, you had a decent team and you rocketed up the league.

Your manager then choked and fucked it all up.

Can't disagree with your second point but it makes a bit of a nonsense of the first, being ill prepared is not simply about your first team or your playing squad, it has to include the chairman, manager and back room staff too

As I said, ill prepared.

[Finnegan]

Can't disagree with your second point but it makes a bit of a nonsense of the first, being ill prepared is not simply about your first team or your playing squad, it has to include the chairman, manager and back room staff too

As I said, ill prepared.

... what?

So you had a squad good enough to compete in the league and a manager good enough to get you there and take you up the league in the first half of the year and you think that's being ill prepared?

Denial isn't a river in Egypt, kiddo. You had all the resources to do "a Stoke" and bed yourself in the division and you just fucked up.

End of story.

If anyone can claim to have gotten up on a freak run of form and not been "prepared" to stay up it's Blackpool but ask any of their fans if they regret going up this season and what do you think they'll say? Plus, if you have the intelligence to manage your finances sensibly and don't over-reach when you go up then the money from TV revenue and then the parachute payments can be a very lucrative move.

[Rich Fox]

Pearson should be shot for selling Maxi Gradel, glad we finished above that shower

[Guest DavidJCW]

I can see why Leicester are being touted as being in the mix up for the automatic spots next season... but Hull? Come off it.

Play-offs at the very best for you lot, if that.