davieG Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNC-gvoZEFM Well it counted with this ref but is it a goal, where's DB11 when you want an opinion?
Fox You Forest Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 What a clown, I'd say it should always be a goal that, the ball was always in motion.
lcfcadam Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 Cue Beachy Head - I could never live with the embarrassment, especially if it was an important game! EDIT: And to my uneducated mind it's definitely a goal, can't see any reason why not: the ball never came to a stop so it was no different to if it slipped through the keeper hands or something.
Finnegan Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 Of course it's a goal. FYF used exactly the same phrase I was going to, the ball's always in motion so why wouldn't it count?
davieG Posted 10 September 2010 Author Posted 10 September 2010 Of course it's a goal. FYF used exactly the same phrase I was going to, the ball's always in motion so why wouldn't it count? I only asked because I got it off Bentley's and a guy on there is a ref and he had his doubts.
lcfcadam Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 When a penalty kick is taken during the normal course of play, or time hasbeen extended at half-time or full time to allow a penalty kick to be taken or retaken, a goal is awarded if, before passing between the goalposts and under the crossbar: • the ball touches either or both of the goalposts and/or the crossbar and/or the goalkeeper The referee decides when a penalty kick has been completed. Yeah I am quite bored.
Finnegan Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 I only asked because I got it off Bentley's and a guy on there is a ref and he had his doubts. I don't see why, he's probably just trying to instigate a debate. It's a goal, end of. If the ball had hit the keeper and gone straight in nobody would even consider it - it's only because he jumped around celebrating.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 Always wanted to know what happens in that scenario, but I think it should count.
Finnegan Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 Always wanted to know what happens in that scenario Really? I mean really?
ousefox Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 Really? I mean really? I know it's sad but i actually have too
ScouseFox Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 No reason for it to not be a goal, all it is is a keeper getting a hand to it but not stopping it from going in. No difference from a shot having too much power and a keeper only being able to push it into the goal, surely?
dandannieldanok Posted 10 September 2010 Posted 10 September 2010 Anyone know whether the goalkeeper's team won the shootout? Would be funny if they didn't after that.
davieG Posted 10 September 2010 Author Posted 10 September 2010 Apparently it used to be no goal but the laws were changed/clarified. Used to be: NO GOAL.Once the ball clearly comes forward off the 'keeper, post whatever it is deemed that the kick has concluded. Now: "The Law XIV International Board Decisions were stripped out of the Law book during the complete Law book re-write for season 1997/1998. This expunged the conflicting Decision No. 7(b) that previously stated, "the game shall terminate immediately the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper, the cross-bar or the goal-post". Some Referees, saw this as a clause that allowed them to end a penalty-kick as soon as the momentum of the ball ceased to travel forwards; and this conflicted with the new wording (and modern thinking) of 1987/1988, which is more aligned to the 'spirit of the game'." Still being debated apparently the rules are different if it's during the game to a penalty shoot out http://www.fansonline.net/leicestercity/mb/view.php?id=238555
Hitesh Posted 11 September 2010 Posted 11 September 2010 Goal for me. It the same as if it hits the post, hits the keeper and goes in!
Edmund Posted 11 September 2010 Posted 11 September 2010 Definitely a goal. I'm sure it clearly states in the rules that the penalty is over when the ball becomes stationary.
DB11 Posted 11 September 2010 Posted 11 September 2010 It used to be the case that once the ball had completed its forward motion, the penalty kick was complete. Now, however, it is a goal.
FSF Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 If you didn't see the original clip, last week the keeper saves a penalty in a shoot out and walks off celebrating, little realising the ball's backspinning in: His first error Now he's gone and dropped another clanger, and then ended up substituting himself out of embarrassment: His second one
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