sven out

[callis]

i likw it, if not sven then who ? We were bottom when he came and we nearly made the top 6. What were you saying in Feb when we had something like 21 points from 24 ? FICKLE

i like it, if not sven then who ? We were bottom when he came and we nearly made the top 6. What were you saying in Feb when we had something like 21 points from 24 ? FICKLE

[Al-aLondon-Foxile]

Joining for free doesn't mean they're playing for free, too.

And are you saying most of our loan players have cost us more individually than Bamba's 250k alone? Name and shame!

Or is it just another case of hearsay?

Kyle Naughton was offered to us pre season for a LOAN fee of £350k which Hoos wouldn't sanction. I don't post speculation on here unless I state IMO.

Yakubu's 50k a month have long ago been dismissed as being false and I honestly can't see any of the youngster being on more than that...

Besides, what's wrong with signing loan players in a January transfer window with a manager that has only been at the club for roughly four months at that point in time? Certainly less risky than dishing out vast amounts of money on permanents that pan out to be flops.

[l444ry]

I'd back it to beat Pearson's on paper, man for man. Easily.

The difference is Pearson had time to put his team together, iron out the kinks, get them playing his system (which was altogether far more simple) and had the advantage of playing Cheltenham and Yeovil every week whilst he was putting it together.

We then got promoted on a high and stormed the league on a wave of high confidence and good form - Sven had the complete and total opposite.

Fair comment. But Pearson has since been building a new side at Hull, incorportating a couple of our rejects, on less money and are still above City in the table. Paul Jewell has done the same at Ipswich on a shoestring. So I'm still of the opinion that Sven has hardly set the world alight conidering the resources at his disposal.

[MC Prussian]

Kyle Naughton was offered to us pre season for a LOAN fee of £350k which Hoos wouldn't sanction. I don't post speculation on here unless I state IMO.

You initially claimed that "many of our loan players" cost us more than Bamba, only to follow it up by ONE single example based on hearsay, without any information on what that original loan deal would've looked like (and based on a pre-season situation). You or your fellas work for the NotW by any chance?

Naughton joined a full three months later, and I, for my part, doubt it that he cost us that much money. Probably a lot less.

[jamesmilner]

all i read when the lcfc fans try to let me know how good sven is " look where we were when he took over " . ok lets . he took over a side full of quality players battered by a coach so far stuck up his own arse he was repugnant . FACT .the players hated him , he told us (the coach) he taught jose , what an absolute twat that man was . the coach ruined a good side . ruined its confidence and we dropped like ALL teams do when this happens .training for the players with him was not one bit enjoyable and it took its toll. when this fool was sacked with sousa (sousa wasnt the problem) the dining room that day was like " a xmas party " as i was told . honestly , with any capable manager , we were only going to rise up the league as teams do that get the "new manager factor" . my problem with sven ( and i do think we need someone else) is when we were on the brink of breaking into the play offs(7th ,playing well , teams feared us quoting "best side In league") he decided to sell players when we didnt have to , loan out players we didnt have to and brought in players on loan that completely ruined our chances of promotion . being in 7th place we should have kicked on like reading and could of made it to the playoffs (win them ? who knows) . all i want to know is if sven goran eriksson is that good a manager , how come when in such a great position did we turn into a bag of shite that couldnt concede a goal . was it the players ? if yes he loaned them on "if fit you play contracts" (stupid) . i dont think it was the players , i put the whole blame on SVEN GORAN ERIKSSON . stop forgetting about last season and the achievement we made THE PLAYOFFS where we all THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE THIS SEASON AT ONE POINT .

[Ambitious]

omg no wonder we're shit they've even got the fans fooled-well most of them but not me-sven is a liability, if you lot are so far up his arse you can't see that you obviously don't care about our club

What a willy puller! I thought I was bad, jees. Can't understand why some people hate the guy so much, we were in the relegation zone when he first started, we're now top half, I never wanted him after Sousa got sacked, but now we are where we are I'm glad we've got him, because under a different manager we might have ended up where Crystal Palace are now, and I'd rather we be where we are than the seagulls.

[Al-aLondon-Foxile]

You initially claimed that "many of our loan players" cost us more than Bamba, only to follow it up by ONE single example based on hearsay, without any information on what that original loan deal would've looked like (and based on a pre-season situation). You or your fellas work for the NotW by any chance?

Naughton joined a full three months later, and I, for my part, doubt it that he cost us that much money. Probably a lot less.

That's ok, you believe what you want, I suppose the Easter bunny brings chocolate and father Christmas comes down your chimney too? Twat.

[MC Prussian]

That's ok, you believe what you want, I suppose the Easter bunny brings chocolate and father Christmas comes down your chimney too? Twat.

I don't really believe in rumours, especially when it comes to (loan) transfer fees - they tend to be flukey and consisting of numerous components (agents fees, add-ons, special conditions, etc.).

Many of them are also pushed to outrageous heights by agents in order to increase a player's value for short-term profit.

I'm still waiting for more of your examples of our loan players having cost us considerably more than the 250k splashed out on Bamba.

I'm here all day or you can also reach me via PM.

Yours,

Prussian

[Al-aLondon-Foxile]

I stated a fact about Naughtons fee as i know details of it, and so would presume that other loan players would command similar fees. My insight into these details can't be disclosed here but you can choose to consider them as you wish, that is your choice. But I would say it's not some NOtW type journalist.

[Haydos]

I stated a fact about Naughtons fee as i know details of it, and so would presume that other loan players would command similar fees. My insight into these details can't be disclosed here but you can choose to consider them as you wish, that is your choice. But I would say it's not some NOtW type journalist.

On literally no basis.

[Al-aLondon-Foxile]

On literally no basis.

On the basis of prior knowledge of how loan fees are established and with particular knowledge of the deal between city & spurs with Naughtons agreement.

This is boring fellas.

[MC Prussian]

I stated a fact about Naughtons fee as i know details of it, and so would presume that other loan players would command similar fees. My insight into these details can't be disclosed here but you can choose to consider them as you wish, that is your choice. But I would say it's not some NOtW type journalist.

You stated a "fact" about Naughton's fee during pre-season as it was rumoured to you.

However, Naughton joined three months later.

Can we safely assume the initial loan deal you're referring to (and boasting to have knowledge about) never came through?

So I ask you - how much did Naughton's loan cost us effectively so far (let's say per month) ever since he came in last October?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

In SVEN :sge: we must trust. at least til the end of next season and then re-assess

[jamesmilner]

In SVEN :sge: we must trust. at least til the end of next season and then re-assess

in sven i have to put up with , i don't have to trust him . he trusted in someone with £10 million of his money and unbelievably lost it ! how can i trust him with my team ? i CANT !

[Guest Col city fan]

Sven was a world class manager. He isn't the best guy for the championship and he does have flaws.

However anyone who wants him sacked is an idiot, Sven will get us there next season

I usually agree with you... But don't get caught up in the making ridiculous predictions thing... You have no more idea than I do whether Sven will 'get us there' or not

I'd actually like to see him repairing the mess the team us in NOW, as well as in the close season.. Objective 1 must be to stop leaking goals.. This is fact, not opinion.. Defensively we are nearly as shaky as we were under Sousa, which must be rectified

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Considering the mess Sven had to clear up, I would like to thank him for saving us from relegation.

In the close season he can be more choosy about who to bring in. He also must have gained a greater knowledge of championship football, which was an unknown quantity to him.

Well done Sven.

[Haydos]

I usually agree with you... But don't get caught up in the making ridiculous predictions thing... You have no more idea than I do whether Sven will 'get us there' or not

I'd actually like to see him repairing the mess the team us in NOW, as well as in the close season.. Objective 1 must be to stop leaking goals.. This is fact, not opinion.. Defensively we are nearly as shaky as we were under Sousa, which must be rectified

I don't think it's a prediction, I think it's optimism. A human emotion. Which you seem devoid of. <_<

[Guest Col city fan]

I don't think it's a prediction, I think it's optimism. A human emotion. Which you seem devoid of. <_<

Sorry... Keep the faith etc...

[Haydos]

Sorry... Keep the faith etc...

Much more like it

[Guest Col city fan]

Much more like it

I genuinely do have optimism to be fair.. But not misguided optimism cos that's dangerous IMO.. You only have to look back at holloway to know how true loyally sticking to something that was wrong can have a disastrous outcome. Im not saying that that is the case with Sven.. I just don't share the level of optimism that you do. Again I'm just being honest and again I hope I'm wrong ...

[jamesmilner]

I genuinely do have optimism to be fair.. But not misguided optimism cos that's dangerous IMO.. You only have to look back at holloway to know how true loyally sticking to something that was wrong can have a disastrous outcome. Im not saying that that is the case with Sven.. I just don't share the level of optimism that you do. Again I'm just being honest and again I hope I'm wrong ...

you wont get anything other than bum licking from the mods , blue tinted glasses brigade etc , you are wasting your time . they dont want opinion , they want 100% pro talk for the city . i agree with you , that is not only dangerous but not honest . honest is the best policy , maybe not on here as you will get slagged off , but its still the best policy . HONEST ! i dont have any faith whatsoever in a man that is trying to get £10 million back that he has just lost . he is desperate and his actions lately were just that DESPERATE .

[Haydos]

you wont get anything other than bum licking from the mods , blue tinted glasses brigade etc , you are wasting your time . they dont want opinion , they want 100% pro talk for the city . i agree with you , that is not only dangerous but not honest . honest is the best policy , maybe not on here as you will get slagged off , but its still the best policy . HONEST ! i dont have any faith whatsoever in a man that is trying to get £10 million back that he has just lost . he is desperate and his actions lately were just that DESPERATE .

Give over, you seem to think anyone that doesn't question everything our manager does rims him. Another case of no middle ground.

You think the owners but settle for "Er, well, yes, I don't theeeenk we should tryyyy to get promoted theees season. We should build and wait for next year."?

[Corky]

you wont get anything other than bum licking from the mods , blue tinted glasses brigade etc , you are wasting your time . they dont want opinion , they want 100% pro talk for the city . i agree with you , that is not only dangerous but not honest . honest is the best policy , maybe not on here as you will get slagged off , but its still the best policy . HONEST ! i dont have any faith whatsoever in a man that is trying to get £10 million back that he has just lost . he is desperate and his actions lately were just that DESPERATE .

I know, davieG, Ric, Babs- all of them are virtually the club and never say anything slightly critical of it.

Or maybe they do.

Who knows?

[davieG]

you wont get anything other than bum licking from the mods , blue tinted glasses brigade etc , you are wasting your time . they dont want opinion , they want 100% pro talk for the city . i agree with you , that is not only dangerous but not honest . honest is the best policy , maybe not on here as you will get slagged off , but its still the best policy . HONEST ! i dont have any faith whatsoever in a man that is trying to get £10 million back that he has just lost . he is desperate and his actions lately were just that DESPERATE .

As opposed to your hate tinted specs, Sven's not perfect by any means but when folk like you can't even admit any of his redeeming features are you any better than the people you're slagging off.

And as for the £10mill he hasn't had £10mill, that was money invested in all areas of the club and most likely included Sousa's pay off and the new screens.

Opinion of all shades is welcomed on here but blind hatred sycophancy is really not worth reading.

[davieG]

I know, davieG, Ric, Babs- all of them are virtually the club and never say anything slightly critical of it.

Or maybe they do.

Who knows?

Well he obviously was posting when we had virtually all the managers during the Mandaric era prior to Sven or even Mandaric himself.

Just a few example of me wearing my blue tinted specs