Jace Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 How do you get an Irishman on the roof? Tell him the drinks are on the house.
Captain... Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 How do you get an Irishman on the roof? Tell him the drinks are on the house. Sorry couldn't resist.
sphericalfox Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Its not an inability to get my points across as such. Its more to do with posting via my mobile and not being arsed to go into every detail. That gives half of you the chance to twist what I say admittedley, but I'm not bothered about that. EDL? England flag? U what? Is this some more disinformation you've recieved? Or is it racist hanging a COSG from my bedroom window on April 23rd? Probably the latter knowing some of the PC dross posted on here . Stu I know nothing about you, just cause we know the same people doesn't mean I know or want to know a jot about what you do or don't do. Extract the paranoia and misinformation hair from across the big O. I'm no longer to engage with your good self, as it's as about as much fun as closing my eyes and sticking my nob on the electric hob to see if its on or still hot, and probably as much fun to read by other posters . Of all the other posters that basically said the exact same thing as me before me and then after me, you decided aim your nonsense in my direction. Enjoy your Sunday.
The Doctor Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Ireland is not a British Isle As has been said The British Isles is a geographical term referring to the main two islands (England Scotland Wales & Ireland (North & ROI) as well as all the minor isles laying around such as the isle of man, the Hebrides, the Shetlands etc. Do you really understand what you are saying "There is no such language as "Gaelic"," " Irish, Scotch Gaelic" ? and if i wanted to post summat that wunt cause a reply i wud just av put police cars with police spelt in welsh on em, but i suppose u wud then av put it aint welsh it's GALIC Err, can you actually read? There is no such language as Gaelic - it is a form of languages. To say the Scots & Irish speak Gaelic is equivalent to saying English people speak West Germanic. To re-cap, Gaelic is a branch of languages, the actual languages are Manx, Scottish Gaelic & Irish. Finally I wouldn't have put "it aint welsh it''s GALIC", firstly because I have some command of the English language, but I wouldn't have put "It isn't Welsh it's Gaelic" because Gaelic isn't a language and Welsh is actually a Brythonic language.
sphericalfox Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 As has been said The British Isles is a geographical term referring to the main two islands (England Scotland Wales & Ireland (North & ROI) as well as all the minor isles laying around such as the isle of man, the Hebrides, the Shetlands etc. I'm not saying its not. It's a British geographical term. As I said mapping is one of those historically British hobbies that did well for itself and then went a little further afield. It's a British geographical term. Ask a man where he lives in Germany where he lives. He won't say Germany. It's the same principle.
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 We'll have to disagree on that on I'm afraid. Ireland as an island is not British, therefore is not part of any British isles. Northern Ireland may well be part of Britain, but a part does not make a whole. The production of maps with British Isles stamped across them are both out of date and inaccurate. That is of course you can prove to me otherwise. It's difficult to prove anything to somebody who thinks they know it all, but in fact knows very little IMO
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Finally someone gets it right! Celtic languages developed in the British Isles, so where does the Irish galic or as you think Celtic come from as the post states British isles ? Eire is not part of the British isles and that is where most of the irish galic/celtic is spoken
The Doctor Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 I'm not saying its not. It's a British geographical term. As I said mapping is one of those historically British hobbies that did well for itself and then went a little further afield. It's a British geographical term. Ask a man where he lives in Germany where he lives. He won't say Germany. It's the same principle. No, but no-one says they live in the British Isles either. It's akin to using Scandinavia to describe Sweden, Norway, Denmark et al, essentially a sub-region of Europe.
sphericalfox Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 It's difficult to prove anything to somebody who thinks they know it all, but in fact knows very little IMO Really? Enlighten us all with you Geography PhD smart-arse.
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 The term British Isles is controversial in Ireland,[7][12] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[13] The Government of Ireland does not use the term[14] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[15] As a result, Britain and Ireland is becoming a preferred description,[13][16][17] and Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia,[18][19][20][21] although British Isles is still commonly employed.[16] This why I disagree. As the British primarily created modern mapping, it was they who termed the islands theirs historically. I would disagree. If you look at the English Channel on a French map for example it's not 'English'. like I said, not looking to stir things, just from my point of view Ireland is definitely not a British Isle, though it may well have been occupied under royal rule and British government jurisdiction. Though this conversation is straying away from the original posting and problem should be a conversation for General chat What a load of bollox, if northern Ireland aint british why where British troops there for decades losing their lives, my sister was born just outside Belfast and until the european crap she had a BRITISH passport
sphericalfox Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 What a load of bollox, if northern Ireland aint british why where British troops there for decades losing their lives, my sister was born just outside Belfast and until the european crap she had a BRITISH passport That's a very good question, but perhaps not for now. However, Nobody is currently contesting whether or not Northern Ireland come under the headins of British. But owning a region of a country does not make it British. Thus a British isle.
The Doctor Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 What a load of bollox, if northern Ireland aint british why where British troops there for decades losing their lives, my sister was born just outside Belfast and until the european crap she had a BRITISH passport Please point out where in that post it ever said Northern Ireland wasn't British? Oh and the argument of "if it isn't British why were British troops there for decades" is the worst I've ever heard - In case you haven't noticed, we've invaded Iraq/Afghanistan to blow the crap out of farmers, for their own good of course, in the past decade. Those countries aren't part of Britain.
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 As has been said The British Isles is a geographical term referring to the main two islands (England Scotland Wales & Ireland (North & ROI) as well as all the minor isles laying around such as the isle of man, the Hebrides, the Shetlands etc. Err, can you actually read? There is no such language as Gaelic - it is a form of languages. To say the Scots & Irish speak Gaelic is equivalent to saying English people speak West Germanic. To re-cap, Gaelic is a branch of languages, the actual languages are Manx, Scottish Gaelic & Irish. Finally I wouldn't have put "it aint welsh it''s GALIC", firstly because I have some command of the English language, but I wouldn't have put "It isn't Welsh it's Gaelic" because Gaelic isn't a language and Welsh is actually a Brythonic language. decending from a galic speaking country i will differ from your opinion, and it is pretty obvios i can read other wise i wouldnt be able to queery some of these threads, so although you try to sound intelligent you must be rather thick to not realise this xxx
Guest bennytwohats Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Why's it wrong to expect people who live in England speak English? No, frankly, if there's someone who's walking around town speaking in their own language, why should I want to interact or feel the need to integrate with them, when they're clearly not that arsed about it themselves?! I wouldn't worry about it mate, I don't suppose they'd want to interact with you Pretty waste way of looking at things anyway. You get good and bad everywhere. I don't get the sense of entitlement for being born in a certain place/country - why does that make you so divine? If people want to work here and pay their taxes then it's all good (yes i'm sure immigrants don;t, just like a ****load of natives don't, don;t see why nationality comes into it?). On another note... the EDL, apparently disillusioned disenfranchised working class white men, are now targeting anti-cuts protests. ****ing morons
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Really? Enlighten us all with you Geography PhD smart-arse. I would not try to belittle you by stating my degrees, and if your eyes keep rolling you should see a doctor because if it isnt drugs it coulkd be a severe medical problem xxx
sphericalfox Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 decending from a galic speaking country i will differ from your opinion, and it is pretty obvios i can read other wise i wouldnt be able to queery some of these threads, so although you try to sound intelligent you must be rather thick to not realise this xxx As someone who doesn't descend from, but actually was born and bred in Ireland and learned Gaelic (this is what it's called in Ireland - as there is no need to call it 'Irish' there), but LargeAl is in fact 100% correct. Sorry liamsm, you'll have to concede.
John Matrix Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 decending from a galic speaking country i will differ from your opinion, and it is pretty obvios i can read other wise i wouldnt be able to queery some of these threads, so although you try to sound intelligent you must be rather thick to not realise this xxx
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 That's a very good question, but perhaps not for now. However, Nobody is currently contesting whether or not Northern Ireland come under the headins of British. But owning a region of a country does not make it British. Thus a British isle. I disagree there are replies on here stating NI is not British
sphericalfox Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 I would not try to belittle you by stating my degrees, and if your eyes keep rolling you should see a doctor because if it isnt drugs it coulkd be a severe medical problem xxx Oh no! Another invitation for a verbal rumble. Mods any chance this gets moved into General Chat, as it veered away from football, specifically LCFC after the first post? I disagree there are replies on here stating NI is not British which ones? quotes please.
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Please point out where in that post it ever said Northern Ireland wasn't British? Oh and the argument of "if it isn't British why were British troops there for decades" is the worst I've ever heard - In case you haven't noticed, we've invaded Iraq/Afghanistan to blow the crap out of farmers, for their own good of course, in the past decade. Those countries aren't part of Britain. [/quote It possibly was not in that particular post, Iraq was to suck up to the Yanks Afghanistan is because of UN, NI was because of the British government, ?if i'm wrong pleaqse explain where i have a made a mistake, i'm allways willing to learn
Jace Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Celtic languages developed in the British Isles, so where does the Irish galic or as you think Celtic come from as the post states British isles ? Eire is not part of the British isles and that is where most of the irish galic/celtic is spoken Your sending me messages now telling me Celtic languages were developed in the British Isles? you do realise I'm Cornish right?
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 There is no such language as "Gaelic", it's a branch of Insular Celtic languages (Celtic languages developed in the British Isles), there are three different "Gaelic" languages - Irish, Scotch Gaelic & Manx. Welsh actually comes under the other branch, Brythonic, alongside Cornish & Breton. Just found this, i though it might educate you a little, Gaelic (or Scottish Gaelic as it is sometimes known outside Scotland) has similarities to the other Celtic languages, and is particulary close to Irish (or Irish Gaelic) to the extent that a mutual understanding is possible. Another variant of Gaelic is spoken in the Isle of Man (a small tax haven between England and Ireland) called Manx Gaelic
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 As someone who doesn't descend from, but actually was born and bred in Ireland and learned Gaelic (this is what it's called in Ireland - as there is no need to call it 'Irish' there), but LargeAl is in fact 100% correct. Sorry liamsm, you'll have to concede. Gaelic (or Scottish Gaelic as it is sometimes known outside Scotland) has similarities to the other Celtic languages, and is particulary close to Irish (or Irish Gaelic) to the extent that a mutual understanding is possible. Another variant of Gaelic is spoken in the Isle of Man (a small tax haven between England and Ireland) called Manx Gaelic. Quite a few places that speak slightly different GALIC
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Your sending me messages now telling me Celtic languages were developed in the British Isles? you do realise I'm Cornish right? And i live in Leicester so, are you trying to tell me you speak Celtic/Gaelic?
liamsm Posted 20 November 2011 Posted 20 November 2011 Oh no! Another invitation for a verbal rumble. Mods any chance this gets moved into General Chat, as it veered away from football, specifically LCFC after the first post? which ones? quotes please. try looking you lazy person
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