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[The Year Of The Fox]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

[21st Century Fox]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

No. Why would I? Thats their shared language. I speak pretty good German but if I was living in Germany I'd speak to anyone English, in English because its, quicker and convenient. Why does it bother you?

[Mike the Metal Ed]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

Maybe they understand the other language better as their mother tongue and are trying to prevent a misunderstanding. As a speaker of basic French, I try to use the local language in shops and restaurants when I've visited France or Quebec. If then the employee clocks my accent and feels more comfortable conducting business in English for clarity, then I'll follow.

[MPH]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

so you now see that alot of people do actually speak english?

as for your point.... Are people who whisper rude? The answer is sometimes... but maybe they just dont want people to hear their conversation. which might be private. either way its not worth the bitterness you seem to have towards 'immigrants' Are you bitter and annoyed towards people who whisper? not seen you argue about them...

The deep underlying problem here is you appear to have an issue with people who look and sound different than you do.

[Jace]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

Yes I find that very rude too, happens to me all the time when I am on holiday in Spain

[sphericalfox]

Exactly, forum anonymity equals keyboard warriors in some respects. And no, I'm not a keyboard warrior, I speak my mind, and I wouldn't do so if I believed I'd personally upset someone- whether face to face or online.

People still post what they think should be said, or don't comment at all. Mainly, I think, because any other posts are then discredited by the other users, regardless of the subject being debated. Afterall, people like me are just knuckle draggers with nothing between the ears.

Multiculturalism doesn't bother me either way, but I just dislike this self congratulary thing we have. Like we're congratulating ourselves on not being knuckle draggers. Surely its the norm?

Well done Nancy Drew, we know some people who happen to be the same. The magic of Facebook and its all seeing eye. But it's irrelevant.

Stu you do a fine job making yourself look like a tool with some of your statements on here, whether you truly understand how you come across or not, or even care for that matter, as you've said. You may win 'man points' down your local or at work, but expect to receive disdain in a public forum.

By the way if you attempted to wind me up at some stage you'll have to remind me when that was as it you've mastered the art of discretion on that angle, however it's application might well be better applied elsewhere

[AdamN]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

Do you not find listening in to other people's conversations rude?

[The Year Of The Fox]

so you now see that alot of people do actually speak english?

as for your point.... Are people who whisper rude? The answer is sometimes... but maybe they just dont want people to hear their conversation. which might be private. either way its not worth the bitterness you seem to have towards 'immigrants' Are you bitter and annoyed towards people who whisper? not seen you argue about them...

The deep underlying problem here is you appear to have an issue with people who look and sound different than you do.

Not at all. Why would someone want to change the language of their conversation if something being said wasn't rude. If they can speak English pretty much just as well, why revert back when an English person walks into a shop?

If I did dislike people who look and sound different then I'd not bother trying to speak Spanish to them when on holiday there!

[The Year Of The Fox]

Yes I find that very rude too, happens to me all the time when I am on holiday in Spain

Not grasped this at all I see

[21st Century Fox]

Not at all. Why would someone want to change the language of their conversation if something being said wasn't rude. If they can speak English pretty much just as well, why revert back when an English person walks into a shop?

If I did dislike people who look and sound different then I'd not bother trying to speak Spanish to them when on holiday there!

Other than the previously explained that its quicker and more convenient and probably a die hard habit.

You come across as extremely paranoid.

[Jace]

Not grasped this at all I see

I have, I was making light humour about your silly comment

[davieG]

Not really referring to that kind of scenario. Have you ever been into a shop where you know the owners speak English, yet when you walk in thete, they immediately speak their own language between themselves? Do you not find that rude?

You talking about the Welsh now?

[jonthefox]

It's shocking and sad to see there is still elements of racism in football, as a Leicester fan this is so alien to me, I love my club and love my city with it's diverse cultures and truly believe it makes us special.

[liamsm]

It's shocking and sad to see there is still elements of racism in football, as a Leicester fan this is so alien to me, I love my club and love my city with it's diverse cultures and truly believe it makes us special.

Why would it make us special? if the different cultures mixed and were tolerent of other races beliefs then it could be classed as special, but any community can just dump different races in different corners of its area like Leicester ( especially the council ) that dont make Leicester special IMO

[I am Rod Hull]

I`m ultra racist... I dont even like fellow whites...

[liamsm]

The most deluded post of the week.

you really think we have no racist's at our club or in the ground.

It might not be wide spread and chanted but I have heard the N word shouted in the groung.

And ya black bas£&%$.

And spent time drinking in pubs and you here the same thing.

But the common one is about the poles atm and eastern european's.

No racism in Leicester your having a fvcking laffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Can you plse tell me what planet your leicester is on.

100% correct

[liamsm]

So basically what your saying is that no one from England can live in our city? Because unless you are raised speaking English then English will never be your first language.

So you're not racist but you don't want to know anyone who can't speak English to a level you expect from them?

There really are better ways of wording certain things

Most country's drive on the right hand side of the road but they soon learn to aim on the left when they come here, so why cant they learn the native tongue, or are they being RACIST

[liamsm]

When I travel abroad I always learn basic words of there language out of respect. Shame some of those planning to come and stay here don't do the same

a lot of them can speak English, ( i think it is called ignorant )

[liamsm]

I think that the original posters post has been proved to be wrong by some of these comments...

Try living in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and maybe you will have a bit more sympathy, I used to have a job where I spent a lot of time working in Denmark, Germany and Poland, as well as other countries. Should I have learnt all of those languages?

I now live in Spain and teach English, when I first moved there I couldn't speak Spanish very well, and a lot of my friends and colleagues can't speak Spanish very well, but they are over there because they can speak English. If we were no allowed in to the country because we couldn't speak Spanish then they would not have many native Englih teachers out there.

Likewise if we didn't have the levels of immigration we do, we would have a much smaller unskilled workforce in the UK and be poorer for it.

what a load of complete and utter bullcrap, to teach somebody to speak a language they dont speak you must be able to speak their language so that you can communicate with them, and as for saying "Likewise if we didn't have the levels of immigration we do, we would have a much smaller unskilled workforce in the UK and be poorer for it". We would have a MUCH SMALLER workforce on the dole, i believe we used to manage quite a lot better 40-50 years ago when the immigration level was MUCH SMALLER and an English man could get a job driving buses/taxi's and in the hosiery.

[liamsm]

There's two different scenarios. Walking down the town on holiday with your family and standing at a bar ordering a couple of pints expecting the Spanish waitress to understand you.

I speak Spanish fairly well and it goes a long way when the locals hear you making the effort.

English is probably the hardest language to learn, I appreciate that. But surely people living here should at least have a grasp on the basics before arriving here. That's not me expecting too much of them, nor assuming they're lazy.

Where is all this crap coming from? who says English is the hardest language to learn (i learnt the basics before i was 2 years old) so i suppose Japanees/ Chinesse/ Russian/ Polish and many others are easy to learn, i dont think so

[liamsm]

The point I am making is that if someone who can speak English but his wife can't gets a very good job in England a much better job than what they have in their home country, by your logic he can come to this country because he can speak English, but his wife can't.

Being able to speak English is not a pre-requisite to live in this country, all that is necessary, in my opinion, is a positive contribution to the society and the economy.

So how did the first non English speaking immigrant contribute to the society or the economy

[21st Century Fox]

Give someone enough rope....

[sphericalfox]

Where is all this crap coming from? who says English is the hardest language to learn (i learnt the basics before i was 2 years old) so i suppose Japanees/ Chinesse/ Russian/ Polish and many others are easy to learn, i dont think so

They are all are in fact as easy as each other to learn under the age of 18mths. A child can learn up to 10 languages at the same time and differentiate from each language too. However as it's been posted the older you get the more difficult it gets. English has a lot of contradictory rules, and unless you are brought up with these and understand these rules it is VERY difficult to comprehend let alone learn.

Also you do in fact need a very basic level of language skills if you are teaching English abroad, but you do not need to be fluent. I know so as I have friends that teach English in other countries. most of their students will have taken a very limited basic course in school or learned from television, and the classes are solely taught in English.

[The Year Of The Fox]

You talking about the Welsh now?

When did I mention any nationality at all?

But no, I'm not, though I know what you're going to say, and I'd counter that by saying Wales is recognised as an English speaking country.

[liamsm]

Don't follow him them.

There have been a lot of very high profile incidents in the last few weeks so I think it is a valid current topic.

Also I think it is sad you don't think it will change, when you consider how much it has improved over the last 20 years I do think that we will reach a point when people stop judging people by the clour of their skin.

Dont really get your point, are you saying people can only be racist if they have a different colour skin? by the way my dad was Irish and we never moaned about racism and there was plenty of it aimed at the iRISH or dont that count because Irish people learnt English years ago when all they spoke was Galic, so if the thicvk paddy's can learn English it cant be a hard language to learn