Proud to be LCFC

[sphericalfox]

Yes it is.

We'll have to disagree on that on I'm afraid. Ireland as an island is not British, therefore is not part of any British isles. Northern Ireland may well be part of Britain, but a part does not make a whole. The production of maps with British Isles stamped across them are both out of date and inaccurate. That is of course you can prove to me otherwise.

[liamsm]

There is no such language as "Gaelic", it's a branch of Insular Celtic languages (Celtic languages developed in the British Isles), There is no such language as "Gaelic", - Irish, Scotch Gaelic & Manx.

Welsh actually comes under the other branch, Brythonic, alongside Cornish & Breton.

Do you really understand what you are saying "There is no such language as "Gaelic"," " Irish, Scotch Gaelic" ? and if i wanted to post summat that wunt cause a reply i wud just av put police cars with police spelt in welsh on em, but i suppose u wud then av put it aint welsh it's GALIC

[The Year Of The Fox]

so you DONT dislike people who look and sound different to you.... just as long as they live somewhere else?

ok that makes sense.

you really are digging yourself a bigger hole, here!!!

at you and the arseholes who rated you for that post. Trying to put words in someones mouth to suit your side of the argument, because you have nothing better to go on is pretty shite.

[liamsm]

Probably by picking cotton

You didn't get many of the points on here, I didn't mention racism I mentioned discrimination, there are many forms of discrimination based on race*, colour, nationality, sex. In essence I was giving a concession to Stu about his dislike of people living in England who can't speak English, whilst I disagree with him at least there is some sense to his dislike towards these people, whereas other forms of discrimination are completely illogical.

*which is a misnomer as there is only one race of humans, the human race, regardless of colour and place of birth we are all the same race.

you do like splitting hairs dont you, just like an immature adolesant

[Jace]

There is no such language as "Gaelic", it's a branch of Insular Celtic languages (Celtic languages developed in the British Isles), there are three different "Gaelic" languages - Irish, Scotch Gaelic & Manx.

Welsh actually comes under the other branch, Brythonic, alongside Cornish & Breton.

Finally someone gets it right!

[The Year Of The Fox]

Yes I'm always making reactionary posts and never read anything before I make them. And as your mate says, I always fail to answer the points being made, because I don't know how to answer them.

It's futile getting or engaging in debate with you as you always defeat me with your excellent objectivity and knowledge, especially when it comes to racism, a keen topic which you clearly have finger on the pulse of. What do I know of such a subject.

I won't bother going over old ground, hence my 'classic lcfc stu post'. That's all I'm offering you on this subject, as I've made my points before on previous threads on this subject.

Using my name as though you know me, therefore have some advantage in an argument is an oddity also. Perhaps you should practice your language skills abroad and not your fighting technique eh?

But two months later I'm still waiting for you to show me my posts knocking fans who don't go to every game?

Get your facts right.

[sphericalfox]

But two months later I'm still waiting for you to show me my posts knocking fans who don't go to every game?

Get your facts right.

Pot calling the kettle. 'Get your facts right' - that coming from you is priceless.

[Zingari]

We'll have to disagree on that on I'm afraid. Ireland as an island is not British, therefore is not part of any British isles. Northern Ireland may well be part of Britain, but a part does not make a whole. The production of maps with British Isles stamped across them are both out of date and inaccurate. That is of course you can prove to me otherwise.

Not sure if you'll take wiki as proof , but i think it's generally accepted that Ireland is part of the geographic British Isles

British Isles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia, although British Isles is still commonly employed.

[Webbo]

Not sure if you'll take wiki as proof , but i think it's generally accepted that Ireland is part of the geographic British Isles

British Isles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia, although British Isles is still commonly employed.

Exactly, it's a geographical term. It's like saying that Britain isn't part of Europe.

[sphericalfox]

Not sure if you'll take wiki as proof , but i think it's generally accepted that Ireland is part of the geographic British Isles

British Isles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles

The term British Isles is controversial in Ireland,[7][12] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[13] The Government of Ireland does not use the term[14] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[15] As a result, Britain and Ireland is becoming a preferred description,[13][16][17] and Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia,[18][19][20][21] although British Isles is still commonly employed.[16]

This why I disagree. As the British primarily created modern mapping, it was they who termed the islands theirs historically. I would disagree. If you look at the English Channel on a French map for example it's not 'English'. like I said, not looking to stir things, just from my point of view Ireland is definitely not a British Isle, though it may well have been occupied under royal rule and British government jurisdiction.

Though this conversation is straying away from the original posting and problem should be a conversation for General chat

[davieG]

We'll have to disagree on that on I'm afraid. Ireland as an island is not British, therefore is not part of any British isles. Northern Ireland may well be part of Britain, but a part does not make a whole. The production of maps with British Isles stamped across them are both out of date and inaccurate. That is of course you can prove to me otherwise.

As far as I'm aware

UK = England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland = a political union and Nation

Great Britain = England, Scotland & Wales = a geographical description of the island made up of the countries of England and Scotland plus the principality of Wales

British Isles = England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland & the Republic of Ireland = a geographical description made up of several islands of which Great Britain is the largest

[Webbo]

The term British Isles is controversial in Ireland,[7][12] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[13] The Government of Ireland does not use the term[14] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[15] As a result, Britain and Ireland is becoming a preferred description,[13][16][17] and Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia,[18][19][20][21] although British Isles is still commonly employed.[16]

This why I disagree. As the British primarily created modern mapping, it was they who termed the islands theirs historically. I would disagree. If you look at the English Channel on a French map for example it's not 'English'. like I said, not looking to stir things, just from my point of view Ireland is definitely not a British Isle, though it may well have been occupied under royal rule and British government jurisdiction.

It's a geographical term, not a political one. Your opinion or anyone else's is immaterial.

[Zingari]

The term British Isles is controversial in Ireland,[7][12] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[13] The Government of Ireland does not use the term[14] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[15] As a result, Britain and Ireland is becoming a preferred description,[13][16][17] and Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia,[18][19][20][21] although British Isles is still commonly employed.[16]

This why I disagree. As the British primarily created modern mapping, it was they who termed the islands theirs historically. I would disagree. If you look at the English Channel on a French map for example it's not 'English'. like I said, not looking to stir things, just from my point of view Ireland is definitely not a British Isle, though it may well have been occupied under royal rule and British government jurisdiction.

sorry but i think that's like arguing there's no such thing as an english spaniel because all "spaniels" must be "spanish"

anyway it's just a name as is the english channel and la manche ,

it isn't really that important enough to bother really

[davieG]

The term British Isles is controversial in Ireland,[7][12] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[13] The Government of Ireland does not use the term[14] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[15] As a result, Britain and Ireland is becoming a preferred description,[13][16][17] and Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia,[18][19][20][21] although British Isles is still commonly employed.[16]

This why I disagree. As the British primarily created modern mapping, it was they who termed the islands theirs historically. I would disagree. If you look at the English Channel on a French map for example it's not 'English'. like I said, not looking to stir things, just from my point of view Ireland is definitely not a British Isle, though it may well have been occupied under royal rule and British government jurisdiction.

Whether one agrees with the actual term of British Isles the simple fact is that when it is used it's definition does not change, there may be justifiable reasons for not using it but that does not change it's meaning.

So if someone uses the term British Isles it includes the ROI, if people don't want to include it then they should use the alternatives.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Pot calling the kettle. 'Get your facts right' - that coming from you is priceless.

but still no quotations?

[flowwolf]

I`m ultra racist... I dont even like fellow whites...

Just as well because no one likes you either. :thumbup: :thumbup:

[sphericalfox]

Whether one agrees with the actual term of British Isles the simple fact is that when it is used it's definition does not change, there may be justifiable reasons for not using it but that does not change it's meaning.

So if someone uses the term British Isles it includes the ROI, if people don't want to include it then they should use the alternatives.

I wasn't stirring, just saying. To me 'British Isles' means 'The Dominion Isles of Britain or British (UK) Government - which is centralised in London' Now as things have changed over the years, I think whilst the term was factually correct, whatever your thoughts are of the UK occupation of Ireland historically, it is no longer is applicable or factual. Like I said it depends on what side of the fence you sit on. It doesn't keep me up at night nor should it do for anyone else. It's no biggie. I was just sharing my opinion.

[sphericalfox]

but still no quotations?

Sorry if it keeps you up at night Stu, I am not trawling back through thousands of posts. I stated you made a comment which made you look a tool about your attendance at games comparable to others. If you don't remember making it then that's up to you. If you want me to find a stupid post amongst your others, tt would be like finding a needle in a haystack of needles. So keep chewing that bone mate if it makes you happy.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Sorry if it keeps you up at night Stu, I am not trawling back through thousands of posts. I stated you made a comment which made you look a tool about your attendance at games comparable to others. If you don't remember making it then that's up to you. If you want me to find a stupid post amongst your others, tt would be like finding a needle in a haystack of needles. So keep chewing that bone mate if it makes you happy.

Ok, I must've posted it then. Afterall, I am made of money, I've been able to afford to go to every single home and away game for 20 years cos I'm fakin minted. Any other fan who can't do the same clearly is a tosser.

For the record I lost count on the number of PMs I had telling me they thought you'd got the wrong person

[sphericalfox]

Ok, I must've posted it then. Afterall, I am made of money, I've been able to afford to go to every single home and away game for 20 years cos I'm fakin minted. Any other fan who can't do the same clearly is a tosser.

For the record I lost count on the number of PMs I had telling me they thought you'd got the wrong person

I didn't say you said you went to EVERY game did I? Keep chewing that bone, you do like to think you are being persecuted don't you. I couldn't give two continentals whether you do or not, or whether your english flag has EDL plasted all over hanging out your bedroom window Stu. I couldn't care less. You are indeed entitled to your opinion and sharing that of your peer group. But if you come on the forum sharing your opinions about particular subject matters, with either the inability to get them across and that you're some misunderstood pacifist full of tolerance and love, then please accept my full hearted apologies for my misinterpretation of your perceived character. Big hugs and kisses Stu.

[Guest Col city fan]

What a lot of utter bollox this thread has become......

A decent conversation on multi culturalism has again become a personal argument.

Tiresome...

[Jace]

Its no wonder why ROI do not want to be part of the UK

[I am Rod Hull]

What a lot of utter bollox this thread has become......

A decent conversation on multi culturalism has again become a personal argument.

Tiresome...

Shut up snowflake...

[The Year Of The Fox]

I didn't say you said you went to EVERY game did I? Keep chewing that bone, you do like to think you are being persecuted don't you. I couldn't give two continentals whether you do or not, or whether your english flag has EDL plasted all over hanging out your bedroom window Stu. I couldn't care less. You are indeed entitled to your opinion and sharing that of your peer group. But if you come on the forum sharing your opinions about particular subject matters, with either the inability to get them across and that you're some misunderstood pacifist full of tolerance and love, then please accept my full hearted apologies for my misinterpretation of your perceived character. Big hugs and kisses Stu.

Its not an inability to get my points across as such. Its more to do with posting via my mobile and not being arsed to go into every detail. That gives half of you the chance to twist what I say admittedley, but I'm not bothered about that.

EDL? England flag? U what?

Is this some more disinformation you've recieved? Or is it racist hanging a COSG from my bedroom window on April 23rd? Probably the latter knowing some of the PC dross posted on here

[Guest Col city fan]

Shut up snowflake...