isaidno Posted 7 February 2012 Share Posted 7 February 2012 Williams Fw34 Toro Rosso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaidno Posted 7 February 2012 Share Posted 7 February 2012 Today's times: Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m19.670s 73 2. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m19.772s + 0.102 101 3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m20.219s + 0.549 56 4. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m20.496s + 0.826 53 5. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m20.694s + 1.024 57 6. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m20.794s + 1.124 41 7. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m21.353s + 1.683 106 8. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.530s + 1.860 60 9. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m22.815s + 3.145 69 10. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m23.178s + 3.508 28 11. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m23.371s + 3.701 25 11. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m23.676s + 4.006 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 7 February 2012 Share Posted 7 February 2012 Today's times: Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m19.670s 73 2. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m19.772s + 0.102 101 3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m20.219s + 0.549 56 4. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m20.496s + 0.826 53 5. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m20.694s + 1.024 57 6. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m20.794s + 1.124 41 7. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m21.353s + 1.683 106 8. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.530s + 1.860 60 9. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m22.815s + 3.145 69 10. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m23.178s + 3.508 28 11. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m23.371s + 3.701 25 11. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m23.676s + 4.006 44 I know testing doesn't mean much, especially this early on but... Get in, Kimi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 7 February 2012 Share Posted 7 February 2012 Kimi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 7 February 2012 Share Posted 7 February 2012 McLaren seem to be the only ones without the ugly nose, have they missed something and up for yet another slow start to the season. I find it hard to believe how McLaren keep buggering things up... Thats pretty ignorant to think that they'd not realise that there are many different ways for them to design their car. Its not even been made clear yet that the two different noses have a clear performance difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 7 February 2012 Share Posted 7 February 2012 Thats pretty ignorant to think that they'd not realise that there are many different ways for them to design their car. Its not even been made clear yet that the two different noses have a clear performance difference. I think the only issue regarding macca vs the rest is the height of the chassis. Apparently the stepped nose lets the designers raise the height of the chassis, which supposedly gives a performance advantage. Another thing to note is the fact that macca have been developing their new nose for over a year because they thought it was going to be enforced last year, meaning they may have sussed something that the other teams haven't. Tbh, there'll probably be no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 8 February 2012 Share Posted 8 February 2012 Tbh, there'll probably be no difference. True, any nose they put on is going to be ****ing useless once Lewis has finished ramming it up 'Felipe baby.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesAreBlue Posted 8 February 2012 Author Share Posted 8 February 2012 True, any nose they put on is going to be ****ing useless once Lewis has finished ramming it up 'Felipe baby.' With regards to the post on how big the cars are, what struck me, when I went to my first race last season was the sheer size of the front wings, especially the end plates, I saw a mechanic lift up a (then) Lotus-Renault nose and the thing was massive - yet obviously very light too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 8 February 2012 Share Posted 8 February 2012 Todays testing times 1. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m18.561s 2. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m19.184s + 0.623 3. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1m19.587s + 1.026 4. Jules Bianchi Force India 1m20.221s + 1.660 5. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus 1m20.239s + 1.678 6. Paul di Resta Force India 1m20.272s + 1.711 7. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m20.454s + 1.893 8. Jenson Button McLaren 1m20.688s + 2.127 9. Sergio Perez Sauber 1m20.711s + 2.150 10. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1m21.197s + 2.636 11. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 1m21.518s + 2.957 12. Pedro de la Rosa HRT 1m22.128s + 3.567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acooling08 Posted 9 February 2012 Share Posted 9 February 2012 I love how Mclaren have gone and made there car look sexy at the expense of better aerodynamics. The red bull / ferrari step wings are fugly but will be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 9 February 2012 Share Posted 9 February 2012 You base that on testing times? If you want to be pedantic, you could say that Ferrari have been the ones that have sacrificed performance for appearance given what Montezemolo said the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha Posted 9 February 2012 Share Posted 9 February 2012 I really wouldn't base anything at all on testing. You've got old cars and different setups out there, and some teams will be trying heavier fuel loads etc. First real indication of performance will come at Melbourne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 9 February 2012 Share Posted 9 February 2012 Testing Times: 1. Rosberg Mercedes 1m17.613s 2. Grosjean Lotus 1m18.419s +0.806 3. Vettel Red Bull 1m19.297s +1.684 4. Hamilton McLaren 1m19.464s +1.851 5. Vergne Toro Rosso 1m19.734s +2.121 6. Perez Sauber 1m19.770s +2.157 7. Alonso Ferrari 1m20.412s +2.799 8. Senna Williams 1m21.293s +3.680 9. Van der Garde Caterham 1m23.324s +5.711 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 9 February 2012 Share Posted 9 February 2012 Ferrari not happy with early progress http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453 Ferrari has admitted its new car is not delivering what it had been hoped for so far - but it has faith that it can get on top of its issues before the first race of the season. After three days of extensive evaluation of its new F2012 at Jerez in Spain this week, Ferrari has confessed it is not yet in a position to feel totally comfortable with the progress it is making. While main title rivals McLaren and Red Bull Racing have both openly declared their satisfaction with the early indications from their car, Ferrari is more circumspect about where it is at with its new challenger. When asked by AUTOSPORT about whether Ferrari was where it wanted to be at this stage of testing, technical director Pat Fry said: "I am not happy with where we are at the moment. "I think there is a lot of room for us to improve from where we are. Reliability wise it is good. Performance wise I think we are okay, but we can play around with the performance and improve [the car in] some corners and some particular parts of the corner, but I would not say I am happy yet until we get the whole thing working." Fry suggested that the biggest issue Ferrari was facing was in trying to understand how to get its car into the perfect set-up, having opted for a radical design this season. And, with just two more tests after this week's running in Jerez, Fry admitted that there was pressure to get on top of matters quickly. "Certainly the three tests rather than four does compress things a little bit," he said. "I think we have got a lot of work to do. "The basic platform is okay. We are looking at the various characteristics – and all the bits we have to test. We can play around with the through corner characteristics, so we can do different things at corner entry, mid corner to exit, and it is really trying to find the right balance of those things. "We are working through a reasonably large matrix here, so on each run we are trying almost a different configuration. There is a lot of analysis here and then back at the factory. We are using the simulation and the simulator to make sure everything ties in, so we can put the right package together." He added: "I think everything is a lot more compressed, so there is a lot of pressure on everyone. You have to try and make decisions quickly. "We have a one-week break coming up, but then it is two solid weeks and then you are packing the freight for Melbourne. So there is a lot of work for everyone to do. It is the same for every team up the pit lane." Fry said that there was no interest from his team in chasing headline-grabbing quick laptimes because, having lost a shakedown test to snow last week, it needed to maximise its running over the next few weeks. "We are not concentrating on taking the fuel out and trying to set a laptime. With only 12 days of testing before the next race, we have to make the most of all the time we have got. "We were set back a little bit by the foot of snow in Fiorano, certainly the first morning of Felipe [Massa] was spent doing what we would have done there, so we are now trying to play catch up. Right now, it is about trying to get the right package together." Fry made it clear, however, that the difficulties the team was having with the car were not related to its decision to run a pull-rod front suspension. "The front suspension is not that a big a deal to be honest," he said. "It is a small aero benefit, a small centre of gravity benefit, and I know it is different from what people have done in the past - but it is not that big a risk to be honest. "With a sensible structure to come you sort it out. We have gone for every last little bit of performance. That was a small benefit and it cost us a small amount of weight, but the weight is low down and in the end it was the right thing to do." Fry said that Ferrari was flying out new hydraulic parts overnight to ensure there was no repeat of the problem that prevented Alonso running for a part of Thursday. "The first two days we did not really have any reliability issues as such. Today there was a small hydraulic issue. We will get some new bits this evening which hopefully will see that one put to bed. "That side of it, I think – the car, reliability wise, seems quite good as normal. Performance wise, it is literally trying to get the right bits together so a lot of analysis is needed." Asked for what his message would be to Ferrari fans, Fry said: "We are all working very hard..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaidno Posted 10 February 2012 Share Posted 10 February 2012 Took a gamble today and backed Kimi for the title @ 20/1. Not sure how genuine the Lotus pace is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stix Posted 10 February 2012 Share Posted 10 February 2012 Took a gamble today and backed Kimi for the title @ 20/1. Not sure how genuine the Lotus pace is How much of a gamble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaidno Posted 17 February 2012 Share Posted 17 February 2012 Vitaly Petrov will race with the Caterham team during the 2012 season, taking Jarno Trulli's place at the squad, it was confirmed on Friday. The Russian had been linked with the outfit for several weeks despite the veteran Italian having a contract with the team he had raced for since the 2010 season. Petrov was left without a racing drive after Renault - now Lotus - signed Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean for the 2012 season. The 27-year-old from Vyborg, Russia, will partner Heikki Kovalainen at Caterham. Feel sorry for Jarno, Lotus have done the dirty on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 17 February 2012 Share Posted 17 February 2012 Trulli was quite critical of them ever since he was there really Trulli was quite critical of them ever since he was there really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 17 February 2012 Share Posted 17 February 2012 Jarno Trulli has never really performed in races up to the level a driver of his ability should have though, when he was at Renault he'd get good qualifying then do sod all in the race, and he's about 38 so replacing him is not that hard a decision to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 18 February 2012 Share Posted 18 February 2012 Vitaly Petrov will race with the Caterham team during the 2012 season, taking Jarno Trulli's place at the squad, it was confirmed on Friday. The Russian had been linked with the outfit for several weeks despite the veteran Italian having a contract with the team he had raced for since the 2010 season. Petrov was left without a racing drive after Renault - now Lotus - signed Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean for the 2012 season. The 27-year-old from Vyborg, Russia, will partner Heikki Kovalainen at Caterham. Feel sorry for Jarno, Lotus have done the dirty on him My brother is happy, Raikkonen and Petrov are his two favourite drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoddyFox Posted 18 February 2012 Share Posted 18 February 2012 Man, the mclaren is the only good looking car left,i mean the ferrari looks like a hammerhead shark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 18 February 2012 Share Posted 18 February 2012 The new Merc has followed the rest with the bent nose: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 19 February 2012 Share Posted 19 February 2012 Those new noses look absolutely hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Fox Posted 19 February 2012 Share Posted 19 February 2012 Anyone who likes Forumla One come and have a go at Batracer! http://batracer.com/-1FrontPage.htm?4PX We are starting Formula Foxestalk Series 20 tonight @ 8pm so get signed up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amin Posted 20 February 2012 Share Posted 20 February 2012 Next round of winter testing tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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