Leicfox Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 As a relative newbie at Leicester, having moved here and got a season ticket in 2007, one of the things I found really odd was the complete lack of Leicester songs. There was no originality, no shared song or chant that was uniquely Leicester City's, just recycled songs and chants from other teams with the word 'Leicester' pasted in as necessary, no wit or flexibility for different opponents. Away games have more singing, but it's the same borrowed stuff. Oddly, watching away games on TV at my local, old boys merrily sing Molly Malone and anyone who left school without ever having touched a computer joins in. I'm told it was popular, 'back in the day'. The last couple of games with 'Woooaaaahhh', which I think is its official title, has been more fun, it's got non-singers singing and scarf waving, and it has no naughty words, so kids and grandparents can join in without disapproval. It's not original either, but it's a start. I fear the average age of fans who actually go to games is the real problem. It's rising fast as people used to live football on TV every weekend would rather watch Man Utd play Chelsea on Sky whilst drinking Carling bought from Tesco in their underwear at home than haul themselves out to see Leicester take on Barnsley in the rain. I don't know how to fix that. The people who sit around me are mostly my kind of age and a little older, much as they were in the 80's. Older folk don't start chants, don't sing loud and don't leap about - we risk breaking a hip. When you're smiling ??
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I agree with it needs to be natural, an organised Ultra group is not the way to go. We have L and K (and some of J) that is the vocal section of our ground. To improve the atmosphere, as I said earlier in the thread, the people who want to sing in other areas of the ground need to move towards that area. Also, the fans in this area need to be commited to singing songs and creating an atmosphere. There is a decent number of vocal supporters in there but the problem is that it goes silent for long periods sometimes. We need to be prepared to keep going, just like at away games like Norwich.
Displaced Sky Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I apologise unreservedly. I do hear 'The Leicester' bit sung regularly.
1964FOX Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 As a relative newbie at Leicester, having moved here and got a season ticket in 2007, one of the things I found really odd was the complete lack of Leicester songs. There was no originality, no shared song or chant that was uniquely Leicester City's, just recycled songs and chants from other teams with the word 'Leicester' pasted in as necessary, no wit or flexibility for different opponents. Away games have more singing, but it's the same borrowed stuff. Oddly, watching away games on TV at my local, old boys merrily sing Molly Malone and anyone who left school without ever having touched a computer joins in. I'm told it was popular, 'back in the day'. The last couple of games with 'Woooaaaahhh', which I think is its official title, has been more fun, it's got non-singers singing and scarf waving, and it has no naughty words, so kids and grandparents can join in without disapproval. It's not original either, but it's a start. I fear the average age of fans who actually go to games is the real problem. It's rising fast as people used to live football on TV every weekend would rather watch Man Utd play Chelsea on Sky whilst drinking Carling bought from Tesco in their underwear at home than haul themselves out to see Leicester take on Barnsley in the rain. I don't know how to fix that. The people who sit around me are mostly my kind of age and a little older, much as they were in the 80's. Older folk don't start chants, don't sing loud and don't leap about - we risk breaking a hip. On the coach to Norwich on Saturday a challenge was issued to everyone, we had to start a chant one by one in turn, we got to 43 before someone had to repeat and several were traditional Leicester songs, there were some I didn't knw the words to as we had some in their late 50's and 60's who turned out some classics. So I disagree, we do have some original chants and 'older folk' do start chants, sing loud and jump about.
Dan Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I don't get all this anyway... our support (especially away) has always been fantastic, so why do we have to take something from other team's to try and improve it? Also, most home atmosphere's are not that good anyway, especially the newer rounded grounds like ours, so I doubt anything will ever improve on that. That's a problem IMO - "most home atmosphere's are shit, so it's not like we're missing out". Why are our fans so happy to be in the majority? How good would it be if we had a proper noisy ground that away fans noted as being one of the loudest? It'd be class I reckon.
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 When you're smiling ?? It's not that we don't have our own original chants, it's that we rarely sing them. When You're Smiling is sung maybe once, at most twice in the whole game, and it's rarely sung by a large number. I believe this is because it's an uninspiring, dull version of the song. I don't know why some of our other original songs aren't sung very often though.
Fox92 Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 That's a problem IMO - "most home atmosphere's are shit, so it's not like we're missing out". Why are our fans so happy to be in the majority? How good would it be if we had a proper noisy ground that away fans noted as being one of the loudest? It'd be class I reckon. I'm not saying I am happy with it. I know the atmosphere at home is poor. All I meant was it isn't just Leicester that are quiter at home and louder away - most teams, if not all, are like that. I think our ground will never be that 'noisy', regardless of what people want to try and start. The ground is round, fans are futher away from the pitch (etc) so I doubt a great atmosphere can be created in a stadium like this; look at Arsenal for example
jonlcfc1990 Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 So it can be exactly what we have now or fully blown ultras, and nothing in between? I have never seen any in between i don't think there is an in between is there? What we have now is about 3 singing blocks we have a laugh start chants join in and now because of we love you we wave scarves id say this is the middle ground. We aren't ultras due to the reasons i've mentioned but i'm not saying it's bad or we should become the "ultras" What i'm saying is there are elements to our own support that we can enhance to get a better atmosphere that we can take from the ULTRA culture. For example Scarves- is a great idea and it looks great Flags- Leicester flags or just blue or just white any flag as long as it's our colours would look good with scarves Ticker tape confetti- I'd say away games would look great if we threw it as the players came out waving scarves it would look epic + Many more To make it clear i didn't say our support is bad ATM it's grown leaps and bounds in just a matter of games and results have shown this is a good thing and i hope it improves the best way of doing this is including as many people and making all supporters feel included. I feel the ULTRA mentality and ULTRA tag may alienate more than it includes
Bangkok Mick Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Bangkok Mick..... Err. What was the capaticy of Filbert Street in the 80's not a good start for your theory. and it's to long for most on here to read and consider. What about the prices/ social class of the supporters I believe that has a lot more to do with this than anything Filbert Street City Business Stadium (official) Full name Filbert Street Location Filbert Street, Leicester Coordinates 52°37′25″N 1°8′26″W Opened 1891 Closed 2002 Owner Leicester City F.C. Capacity 22,000 (at closure) 47,298 (record) Field dimensions 110 x 76 yards Tenants Leicester City F.C. (18912002) thank you for your reply. You`re right my post was a lot longer than most and probably a lot won`t read it but some will. I`m a passionate city fan probably like you and can put my point of view however I like. Surely you can`t criticise me for that? I did know the capacity of Filbert Street in the 80`s but I`m not sure what point you`re making? My opinions were not a "theory" to be proved or disproved. What I did say about the lower capacity at Filbo as opposed to the KP was that the atmosphere was usually better because Filbo was usually full whereas the KP has 1/3 seats empty. A full KP is great but even a rocking KP with 2/3 full could never beat the noise inside a full Filbo. "What about the prices/ social class of the supporters". Good point. I agree. As I said...2. The introduction of more families, kids, females. 3. Footy lads/blokes that have been priced out of football... and stay out Hope this reply wasn`t too long for you Be interested in your reply
Saxondale Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I agree with it needs to be natural, an organised Ultra group is not the way to go. We have L and K (and some of J) that is the vocal section of our ground. To improve the atmosphere, as I said earlier in the thread, the people who want to sing in other areas of the ground need to move towards that area. Also, the fans in this area need to be commited to singing songs and creating an atmosphere. There is a decent number of vocal supporters in there but the problem is that it goes silent for long periods sometimes. We need to be prepared to keep going, just like at away games like Norwich. This. I would also add that there's no point in us trying to pretend we're something we're not. We're not lunatic Poles, or Mussolini-throwbacks with flares - we're Leicester fans. Our chants might lack poetic genius or might be borrowed from elsewhere - but they're our chants. 'Come on Leicester' is probably the most boring chant in the history of football, but I can think of no end times when the whole crowd has been chanting this for a last minute corner and we've nicked a winner. And it's great. We need to stop being so self-conscious and just enjoy ourselves for who we are. We shouldn't give a fvck if opposition fans think we're witty or clever or not. Forget about the politics of it all, just have a laugh!
Reynard Bleu Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Atmosphere at our wembley appearances has been rather good as I remember. men, women, children - lots of constant noise, flags, scarves, banners, etc. Except one odd occasion when for the nano seconds it took for Claridge's 'shot' to hit the net. It went remarkably quiet for just for that short period of time, until it sunk in. Nobody around me believed it had really happened!
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I'm not saying I am happy with it. I know the atmosphere at home is poor. All I meant was it isn't just Leicester that are quiter at home and louder away - most teams, if not all, are like that. I think our ground will never be that 'noisy', regardless of what people want to try and start. The ground is round, fans are futher away from the pitch (etc) so I doubt a great atmosphere can be created in a stadium like this; look at Arsenal for example Well we were obviously pretty loud against Boro and Cardiff because they couldn't get a chant in edgeways at times. When the away fans are in full voice it sounds very loud, so it will be the same when to them when the home fans are. I agree the ground isn't very enclosed and the acoustics are poor, I hope one day they do something to address this, whether that's changing the roof or building seats in front of the current stands etc. But I disagree it can't be loud, if enough people get singing of course it can. It just takes more effort than at other grounds which are better designed.
Saxondale Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Atmosphere at our wembley appearances has been rather good as I remember. men, women, children - lots of constant noise, flags, scarves, banners, etc. Except one odd occasion when for the nano seconds it took for Claridge's 'shot' to hit the net. It went remarkably quiet for just for that short period of time, until it sunk in. Nobody around me believed it had really happened! It was too good to be true! I think we all assumed it would be disallowed or something. By far my greatest ever football memory.
Mack Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 The sexism, ageism etc aside this fascination by some with European 'Ultras' is a misplaced admiration. With all of these groups (Palarse aside who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag) there is a darker side that involves violence and at times murder. I am still confused as to why we split our vocal support between L1 and the Kop in the first place, that was only to our own detriment. What you are trying to combat is a cultural change in football, and I think lately all be it cheesy the atmosphere has improved so with more of the same surely we are already on the right road?
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I have never seen any in between i don't think there is an in between is there? What we have now is about 3 singing blocks we have a laugh start chants join in and now because of we love you we wave scarves id say this is the middle ground. We aren't ultras due to the reasons i've mentioned but i'm not saying it's bad or we should become the "ultras" What i'm saying is there are elements to our own support that we can enhance to get a better atmosphere that we can take from the ULTRA culture. For example Scarves- is a great idea and it looks great Flags- Leicester flags or just blue or just white any flag as long as it's our colours would look good with scarves Ticker tape confetti- I'd say away games would look great if we threw it as the players came out waving scarves it would look epic + Many more To make it clear i didn't say our support is bad ATM it's grown leaps and bounds in just a matter of games and results have shown this is a good thing and i hope it improves the best way of doing this is including as many people and making all supporters feel included. I feel the ULTRA mentality and ULTRA tag may alienate more than it includes I love those things, they create a good visual atmosphere (and also balloons. What's happened to them? Looking at videos of the old days balloons were everywhere for a big game, it looked brilliant. Lets bring those back) but as I'm sure the Fosse boys will tell you, the club are as awkward as possible with regards to those things. You can't just take them in. Confetti is a fire hazard you know!
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 The sexism, ageism etc aside this fascination by some with European 'Ultras' is a misplaced admiration. With all of these groups (Palarse aside who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag) there is a darker side that involves violence and at times murder. I am still confused as to why we split our vocal support between L1 and the Kop in the first place, that was only to our own detriment. What you are trying to combat is a cultural change in football, and I think lately all be it cheesy the atmosphere has improved so with more of the same surely we are already on the right road?
Saxondale Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I love those things, they create a good visual atmosphere (and also balloons. What's happened to them? Looking at videos of the old days balloons were everywhere for a big game, it looked brilliant. Lets bring those back) but as I'm sure the Fosse boys will tell you, the club are as awkward as possible with regards to those things. You can't just take them in. Confetti is a fire hazard you know! Yeah, all the smoking on the terraces these days. And those flammable concrete terraces! Thanks goodness we have Health and Safety to protect us Ripped up copies of the Mercury used to be fairly standard for big games!
gingerlcfc Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Why don't we swap the kop with the family stand? Oh no sorry, this has been mentioned hundreds of times in the countless threads similar to this! You cant say anything in the fam stand and the kop is a great atmosphere so that would be even better next to the away end
Captain... Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 I have never seen any in between i don't think there is an in between is there? What we have now is about 3 singing blocks we have a laugh start chants join in and now because of we love you we wave scarves id say this is the middle ground. We aren't ultras due to the reasons i've mentioned but i'm not saying it's bad or we should become the "ultras" What i'm saying is there are elements to our own support that we can enhance to get a better atmosphere that we can take from the ULTRA culture. For example Scarves- is a great idea and it looks great Flags- Leicester flags or just blue or just white any flag as long as it's our colours would look good with scarves Ticker tape confetti- I'd say away games would look great if we threw it as the players came out waving scarves it would look epic + Many more To make it clear i didn't say our support is bad ATM it's grown leaps and bounds in just a matter of games and results have shown this is a good thing and i hope it improves the best way of doing this is including as many people and making all supporters feel included. I feel the ULTRA mentality and ULTRA tag may alienate more than it includes I always remember at Filbo getting covered in torn up newspaper every single game as the players game out it was great, when did that stop, I only noticed on Boxing Day we had stopped doing it, nobody had any balloons either, I blame the bloody liberals, save the trees and all that crap.
Jagdinho Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Why do people seem to think 'The Fosse Boys' were Ultras? That's the idea i got from reading these posts! About 50 people with a flag that stood in the corner with an awful view, I'm hardly surprised people didn't join them! Then again the club did nothing to help them, which i would of loved for them to have grown. Well done for them trying, at least they did try to do something about it!
1964FOX Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 So the answer is easy several people need to take flags and banners, others a handful of confetti and the odd balloon. Wouldn't take too many for it to look good and reinforce the current improvement in atmosphere we have but people have got to do it, not just talk about it on a forum.
1964FOX Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 Why do people seem to think 'The Fosse Boys' were Ultras? That's the idea i got from reading these posts! About 50 people with a flag that stood in the corner with an awful view, I'm hardly surprised people didn't join them! Then again the club did nothing to help them, which i would of loved for them to have grown. Well done for them trying, at least they did try to do something about it! The Fosse Boys did want to be known as an Ultra group and aspired to such.
Captain... Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 So the answer is easy several people need to take flags and banners, others a handful of confetti and the odd balloon. Wouldn't take too many for it to look good and reinforce the current improvement in atmosphere we have but people have got to do it, not just talk about it on a forum. I even remember just one person would bring in a Saturday paper, then just taking a couple of sheets and passing it along, so that everyone on the row had 2 handfuls of confetti to throw.
Kitchandro Posted 20 February 2012 Posted 20 February 2012 That's it. Where's the nearest balloon shop
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