ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha How much bigger do you want it? 1mm? 2mm? Consensus at the time of the change from your fans was 'Dont like it but we need the money so hey ho' Are you giving all that dosh back? And where did you get that from?. There was going to be a mass protest but the owners basicaly threatened to **** off with there money and leave us in a financial mess
Mack Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 And where did you get that from?. There was going to be a mass protest but the owners basicaly threatened to **** off with there money and leave us in a financial mess Which is exactly what I said. In face of losing all that dosh you shut up and let them do what they wanted. You sold out to them mate, now well down the line you want to protest... Laughable.
ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 Nothing we could do really it was "we do what we want and if you don't like it then yóur clubs going down the shitter" Well if you want to see what the cardiff fans are saying then follow this ; http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=99041
Mack Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Nothing we could do really it was "we do what we want and if you don't like it then yóur clubs going down the shitter" Well if you want to see what the cardiff fans are saying then follow this ; http://www.cardiffci...php?f=2&t=99041 Which is exactly my point. So now the horse has bolted you want to put an extra lock on the stable door? Your club make a deal with the devil, now go and enjoy it! Personally I'm looking forward to seeing you next season in pink shirts with bright green spots!
ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 Which is exactly what I said. In face of losing all that dosh you shut up and let them do what they wanted. You sold out to them mate, now well down the line you want to protest... Laughable. What happened was the idea was met with strong opposition from the cardiff fans so the malaysians said they wouldn't change anything and that was the last we heard of it then the following week I wake up wednesday morning and get a text from my mate saying "they've gone through with it" so it was done behind closed doors and nobody knew that they were pursuing the idea because they had said they would not do it
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Which is exactly what I said. In face of losing all that dosh you shut up and let them do what they wanted. You sold out to them mate, now well down the line you want to protest... Laughable. Exactly - like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. Sounds to me like they want to have their cake and eat it - they want the money from the owners, but they want their heritage too. Well the owners made it quite clear it was one or the other and it's obvious that the money was more important to the Cardiff fans than the identity of their club. Now, months down the line with all the money safely in the bank, they decide they want the shirt back? Well I'm afraid it doesn't work like that - you sold your souls, you'll have to live with it. If the OP had come on here over the summer with his petition, before the decision was made, I imagine he would have received widespread support - but where was he then?
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 What happened was the idea was met with strong opposition from the cardiff fans so the malaysians said they wouldn't change anything and that was the last we heard of it then the following week I wake up wednesday morning and get a text from my mate saying "they've gone through with it" so it was done behind closed doors and nobody knew that they were pursuing the idea because they had said they would not do it I didn't see you doing the rounds with any petitions during the summer though? Then you called off a protest against the shirt change before the first game of the season because the club told you not to do it! Jokers. If it was me, and my club were trying to change its' identity, I wouldn't let a ban stop me from protesting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-19296458
Mack Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 What happened was the idea was met with strong opposition from the cardiff fans so the malaysians said they wouldn't change anything and that was the last we heard of it then the following week I wake up wednesday morning and get a text from my mate saying "they've gone through with it" so it was done behind closed doors and nobody knew that they were pursuing the idea because they had said they would not do it This was all over Sky Sports News at the time, and that's not what happened. They made it clear that they wanted to change the shirt logo and colours, and would invest on the back of it. Then all over SSN were Cardiff fans saying the likes of 'We need the money so we cant really argue' and that was that. I will have having a little giggle at the expense of your club on Saturday
LcFc_Smiv Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 This was all over Sky Sports News at the time, and that's not what happened. They made it clear that they wanted to change the shirt logo and colours, and would invest on the back of it. Then all over SSN were Cardiff fans saying the likes of 'We need the money so we cant really argue' and that was that. I will have having a little giggle at the expense of your club on Saturday Yes because the media never have and never will have an influence on anything!
Mack Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Yes because the media never have and never will have an influence on anything! All the media were doing is reporting the story. I fail to see the influence.
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 God, the more I look into this, the worse the Cardiff fans come off: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-18340430 But leading fan Gwyn Davies accepted the change, saying: "People have calmed down and had a think about it"."If we've got to wear red that's part of the price we have to pay." Mr Davies, of the Valley Rams supporters club, told BBC Wales he was relieved that the club had secured the investment, which would bring stability and progress. He said he thought the "fuss" made by some supporters when the plan was first leaked last month might have frightened away the club's Malaysian investors. "None of us want to change to red," said Mr Davies. "It's something we'll accept willingly because of the price that goes with it, and the benefits that will go with it." You've made your beds, go and lie in them.
ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 The media/news storys are one thing If you ask the media a question about ccfc and you ask a fan you will get to very different answers. Look very grateful for all that signed If you don't want to sign it then that's up to you but at the end of the day we're all football fans..
Oxfordfox83 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I've signed. Sympathise with real fans, but seriously hope we'd be less apathetic. Would be difficult to for you to get campaigning momentum now though...
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 The media/news storys are one thing If you ask the media a question about ccfc and you ask a fan you will get to very different answers. Look very grateful for all that signed If you don't want to sign it then that's up to you but at the end of the day we're all football fans.. Fair play. Good luck to you - it's obvious that not all Cardiff fans were for this, it sets a dangerous precedent though. I would be absolutely, 100% against this if our owners tried to enforce it. The club will be there long after they're gone and even if it means hardship, I'd rather my club retained its' soul. I hope you manage to get it changed back, but I think it's too little, too late to be honest - but at least you can say you tried.
Les-TA-Jon Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Is there a petition I can sign to get Cardiff put back in the Welsh leagues?
Mack Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Is there a petition I can sign to get Cardiff put back in the Welsh leagues? I'd sign that
ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 Why would you want cardiff in a welsh league when there the best team in the championship?
Jace Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I was worried this was going to be a Coventry City thread, good luck op although I think you're wasting your time
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Why would you want cardiff in a welsh league when there the best team in the championship? Leicester would be the best team in the Welsh Premier League - it wouldn't mean they deserve to be there!
Les-TA-Jon Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Leicester would be the best team in the Welsh Premier League - it wouldn't mean they deserve to be there! This. Got nothing against Cardiff per se. They're a good team, good players, fans, stadium etc. I don't hate them or anything. What annoys me is the attention they give themselves and that they get from the media - for being a 'big club' - when they're just the biggest fish in a very small pond. To keep the metaphor going - if you're a big fish in a small pond then tough, you can't just move ponds. I'm not meaning to be jingoistic or xenophobic when I say this but it is the ENGLISH football league. Not the British football league. Imagine if LA galaxy 'moved' to the PL - I think we'd all tell them where to go. Same all goes for Swansea too btw.
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 This. Got nothing against Cardiff per se. They're a good team, good players, fans, stadium etc. I don't hate them or anything. What annoys me is the attention they give themselves and that they get from the media - for being a 'big club' - when they're just the biggest fish in a very small pond. To keep the metaphor going - if you're a big fish in a small pond then tough, you can't just move ponds. I'm not meaning to be jingoistic or xenophobic when I say this but it is the ENGLISH football league. Not the British football league. Imagine if LA galaxy 'moved' to the PL - I think we'd all tell them where to go. Same all goes for Swansea too btw. Exactly, if the boot was on the other foot, do you think the Welsh leagues or the Scottish leagues would welcome English teams with open arms? Would they ****!
Voll Blau Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I would rather Leicester played in the United Counties League than changed the colour of their shirts and sold their soul for a shot at finishing 17th in the SkySportsPromisedLand TM And I do mean that. Signed the petition long ago but just out of interest are you boycotting games yourself ccfcritchie?
ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 I would rather Leicester played in the United Counties League than changed the colour of their shirts and sold their soul for a shot at finishing 17th in the SkySportsPromisedLand TM And I do mean that. Signed the petition long ago but just out of interest are you boycotting games yourself ccfcritchie? No I am not boycotting games not going to give up on my beloved bluebirds for a couple of asians with glasses
Kitchandro Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 No I am not boycotting games not going to give up on my beloved bluebirds for a couple of asians with glasses But they aren't the bluebirds anymore. This is the problem, it's 2012, you can't just whine and get your way anymore. You need to be prepared to say, 'hang on a minute, I'm not just going to hand over my hard earned cash so you can do what you like with my club'. If you're still paying the extortionate prices why would they give a crap what you think? You need to play hardball.
ccfcritchie Posted 18 December 2012 Author Posted 18 December 2012 Fair enough but do you think the malaysian give a **** whether I don't go when they get to the prem there will be a plastic fan to fill my place who pays ****ing £1.10 for a mars bar and a red shirt. Look there's a slim chance of this being a success but at least we have tried eh?
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