bring back our blue ccfc!

[acooling08]

If Cardiff wasn't 3rd on my all time clubs hated list I'd sign in. But as it is, I love seeing the club getting raped.

[FantasticMrFuchs]

Ain't that a kick in the bollox

[Jace]

The black shorts don't make much sence to me either, why not white to go for a more red and white Wales look if your going to change? And building a brand new blue coloured stadium? That is what would annoy me more than anything

[ccfcritchie]

If Cardiff wasn't 3rd on my all time clubs hated list I'd sign in. But as it is, I love seeing the club getting raped.

Why do you hate cardiff?

[Lcfclee]

Not any more , not any moorrrreee, you used to be blue your not anymore

[Harry - LCFC]

I think a few of us on here, myself included, are a little disappointed with how many of Cardiff's fans seemed to care about the change to red shirts. Now the money's safely in the bank they want their blue shirts back, well it doesn't really work like that does it?

If the OP had come on here during the summer, he would have gotten universal support and everyone would have signed the petition. It all smacks of wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

There are plenty out there who would've gladly refused the money so that they could stay blue. I distinctly remember this idea being presented to the supporters, it being rejected by supporters and the owners actually dropping the notion due to substantial opposition. Quite appallingly, they then went through with the decision anyway after a waiting a month after that first rejection.

EDIT: ....and here it is! The link that says Cardiff fans opposed the colour change before investment came in! http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18018366

"Cardiff City have said they will not proceed with proposals to change from blue shirts to red after "vociferous opposition" from the supporters."

So there you go, this idea that Cardiff fans want to have their cake and eat it too isn't entirely correct. Of course they'd love both but they showed before the changes were made that they'd prefer to be blue over taking the money.

[purpleronnie]

There are plenty out there who would've gladly refused the money so that they could stay blue. I distinctly remember this idea being presented to the supporters, it being rejected by supporters and the owners actually dropping the notion due to substantial opposition. Quite appallingly, they then went through with the decision anyway after a waiting a month after that first rejection.

And even more appalling the fans still go.

[bakedalasker]

And even more appalling the fans still go.

As I said earlier its not easy giving up somethin that has been part of your life for a longtime. Until you are in that situation you cannot judge.

[Dan]

Fair enough but do you think the malaysian give a **** whether I don't go when they get to the prem there will be a plastic fan to fill my place who pays ****ing £1.10 for a mars bar and a red shirt.

Look there's a slim chance of this being a success but at least we have tried eh?

Not really, you're still going so your 'effort' is pretty minimal, and that is why it won't make a difference.

[Harry - LCFC]

And even more appalling the fans still go.

What the owners did was to lie, mislead and cheat the fans. What the supporters did was to continue to attend games despite the changes made and the loss of identity that resulted from the changes.

Have the fans really betrayed their club by continuing to attend? No, not in my opinion - very difficult to stop supporting your team if you've been to every game since you were ten. Not pleasant to see your club lose some of their identity but they remain your club none the less.

Have the owners betrayed the fans by continuing with their plans despite blatant opposition? Yes, absolutely.

I don't see how you could consider the behaviour of the supporters as "more appalling" than that of the owners. I'd appreciate if you explain that to me.

[Kitchandro]

As I said earlier its not easy giving up somethin that has been part of your life for a longtime. Until you are in that situation you cannot judge.

Well I'm in that situation, I love my club too, but if our home shirts are red next season, I won't go to a single match, end of story.

[Guest ttfn]

Not really, you're still going so your 'effort' is pretty minimal, and that is why it won't make a difference.

Your militant interpretation of what makes a good fan is as predictable as it is sad.

[Dan]

I agree that it would be very hard giving things up completely but if this did happen I'd struggle to hand over any money to the owners and it probably would be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't stand all this toying with emotions they do. It's disgusting.

[Guest ttfn]

I agree that it would be very hard giving things up completely but if this did happen I'd struggle to hand over any money to the owners and it probably would be the final nail in the coffin.

Can't stand all this toying with emotions they do. It's disgusting.

But where do you draw the line? The definition of what a football club is is so vague these days that having a go at Cardiff fans for continuing to go and watch the team that bears their name is a little disingenuous to say the least.

If you take our club as an example, in the past 20 years, our badge has changed at least twice, we've moved stadium, we've had two different foreign owners and ticket prices have increased 5-or-6 fold.

Sadly, this is the price we pay for modern football. It is a shame that the likes of you, myself and many other fans on this forum were born at such a time that the only form of quality football we have known is the commercially corrupt version we see today.

But the world has moved on. The days of local businessmen throwing good money after bad to keep the club going have passed and been replaced by foreigners with no knowledge or care for historic British football culture. In order to stay competitive in the transfer market and as a club generally, we will be forever at the whim of a succession of foreign owners who will control us until the club folds or drops so low that is is plausible for a local businessman to buy us again.

If you don't like it, go and set up AFC Leicester. Modern football isn't ideal - a deal has been struck with the devil - but I find criticising other fans for their continued support of a club they hold dear to their hearts just because an alien entity has come in and changed the colour of the shirt in which the team play is a bit of a dickhead move. Particularly when you continue to go to Leicester games in spite of the aggressive erosion of the fan culture you seem so keen to cling to.

[Kitchandro]

But where do you draw the line? The definition of what a football club is is so vague these days that having a go at Cardiff fans for continuing to go and watch the team that bears their name is a little disingenuous to say the least.

If you take our club as an example, in the past 20 years, our badge has changed at least twice, we've moved stadium, we've had two different foreign owners and ticket prices have increased 5-or-6 fold.

Sadly, this is the price we pay for modern football. It is a shame that the likes of you, myself and many other fans on this forum were born at such a time that the only form of quality football we have known is the commercially corrupt version we see today.

But the world has moved on. The days of local businessmen throwing good money after bad to keep the club going have passed and been replaced by foreigners with no knowledge or care for historic British football culture. In order to stay competitive in the transfer market and as a club generally, we will be forever at the whim of a succession of foreign owners who will control us until the club folds or drops so low that is is plausible for a local businessman to buy us again.

If you don't like it, go and set up AFC Leicester. Modern football isn't ideal - a deal has been struck with the devil - but I find criticising other fans for their continued support of a club they hold dear to their hearts just because an alien entity has come in and changed the colour of the shirt in which the team play is a bit of a dickhead move. Particularly when you continue to go to Leicester games in spite of the aggressive erosion of the fan culture you seem so keen to cling to.

Yes we've changed badge but the fox has always remained the central theme. Moving stadium was understandable and I wouldn't be bothered about it had we moved into a decent one. In any case some people have been put off by the move, and I can understand that.

I can also understand people not wanting to pay the prices we have to pay, I'm less keen to do so these days. But that's entirely different to unnecessarily rebranding the club and canging it's home colours for a ridiculous reason. That is just disrespectful.

The definition of what a football club is is no more vague than it was 150 years ago. In fact, 150 years ago clubs didn't have over 100 years of history and tradition, so there was arguably less identity to a football club than there is now.

Short of renaming the club and moving it to a different City I don't think there is a more devaluing thing owners can do to a football club. It's really quite disgraceful and how people can sit there and smile back I don't know.

I don't know why you're even bringing foreign owners up, what the hell has that got to do with anything? I don't care what nation our owners come from, as long as they treat the club with respect and honour it's traditions. I'm not a huge fan of the way our club is run but I don't think you can compare anything they've done with what the Cardiff owners have.

[Guest ttfn]

Yes we've changed badge but the fox has always remained the central theme. Moving stadium was understandable and I wouldn't be bothered about it had we moved into a decent one. In any case some people have been put off by the move, and I can understand that.

I can also understand people not wanting to pay the prices we have to pay, I'm less keen to do so these days. But that's entirely different to unnecessarily rebranding the club and canging it's home colours for a ridiculous reason. That is just disrespectful.

The definition of what a football club is is no more vague than it was 150 years ago. In fact, 150 years ago clubs didn't have over 100 years of history and tradition, so there was arguably less identity to a football club than there is now.

Short of renaming the club and moving it to a different City I don't think there is a more devaluing thing owners can do to a football club. It's really quite disgraceful and how people can sit there and smile back I don't know.

I don't know why you're even bringing foreign owners up, what the hell has that got to do with anything? I don't care what nation our owners come from, as long as they treat the club with respect and honour it's traditions. I'm not a huge fan of the way our club is run but I don't think you can compare anything they've done with what the Cardiff owners have.

It's a slippery slope.

The purpose of bringing up foreign owners was to show just how much has changed.

Football clubs used to be:

Local players

Local owners

Local fans

The club was an integral part of the community and vice versa.

Now, the players are from all over the world, the owners hadn't set foot in Leicester before 2009 and many fans aren't from the local area (I've never lived within 50 miles of Leicester).

Obviously I'd prefer it if we played in blue, but if the owners decided to change to red I'd probably keep going. I'd respect the decision of any who chose not to keep going, but I get the impression that not many people who think differently would give the time of day to those who wanted to keep going.

[LCFC Todd]

3 words. Against Modern Football.

Although if i was a Cardiff fan or the same thing happened to us i'd be absolutely 100% against it and would try as hard as i possibly could to make a difference and change whatever was changed back. You can't have a go at the fans for not boycotting the games because i would imagine it would be extremely hard to not renew your season ticket or not go to games after going for a number of years, i know it would be for me.

Although i respect what you're doing i think your efforts are in vain because owners lined to the brim with cash aren't going to care about a petition, they'll only start to see things from a fans perspective when attendances drop and revenue becomes a lot lower.

[Voll Blau]

No I am not boycotting games not going to give up on my beloved bluebirds for a couple of asians with glasses

And that's why you're in the position you're in. The only thing they understand is money. If thousands of those still moaning but turning up stopped giving them it you'd soon get your blue shirts back. If your only tactic is to circulate an online petition rather than get organised and do something practical you're doomed to be the redbirds forever I'm afraid.

[Out Foxed]

hahah cardiff

[Kitchandro]

It's a slippery slope.

The purpose of bringing up foreign owners was to show just how much has changed.

Football clubs used to be:

Local players

Local owners

Local fans

The club was an integral part of the community and vice versa.

Now, the players are from all over the world, the owners hadn't set foot in Leicester before 2009 and many fans aren't from the local area (I've never lived within 50 miles of Leicester).

Obviously I'd prefer it if we played in blue, but if the owners decided to change to red I'd probably keep going. I'd respect the decision of any who chose not to keep going, but I get the impression that not many people who think differently would give the time of day to those who wanted to keep going.

So because we have foreign owners and players that means nothing matters anymore? Our identity means nothing? What if we were to drop City from our name and put something stupid and irrelevant in the name? What if we were to move away from Leicester (if you really think our fanbase is so non local)? Is that OK just because that's modern football and we've got to live with it?

By the way, the last time our whole team was from Leicester was probably the late 1800s. I'm pretty sure the variety of reasons for supporting Leicester existed years ago, such as family influence. The owners nationality and City of origin has always been irrelevant to me - we don't watch him running around the pitch every week.

So it's where YOU draw the line, that's the question. You can accept football going down the drain if you like but I condemn that attitude. Football doesn't have to 'move on', if that's what you want to call it, but if you're willing to let it happen with not so much as a complaint, let alone a boycott, then it will. And if that's the case, I despair.

[purpleronnie]

As I said earlier its not easy giving up somethin that has been part of your life for a longtime. Until you are in that situation you cannot judge.

I was and stopped going.

[The Year Of The Fox]

I would rather Leicester played in the United Counties League than changed the colour of their shirts and sold their soul for a shot at finishing 17th in the SkySportsPromisedLand TM

And I do mean that.

Signed the petition long ago but just out of interest are you boycotting games yourself ccfcritchie?

How brilliant would it be if the FL told the PL to do one and clubs would not be promoted tp the PL.

I want to see us docwell, id love little old Leicester to be put back on the national map, but i Hate every other consequence of promotion

[Guest ttfn]

So because we have foreign owners and players that means nothing matters anymore? Our identity means nothing? What if we were to drop City from our name and put something stupid and irrelevant in the name? What if we were to move away from Leicester (if you really think our fanbase is so non local)? Is that OK just because that's modern football and we've got to live with it?

By the way, the last time our whole team was from Leicester was probably the late 1800s. I'm pretty sure the variety of reasons for supporting Leicester existed years ago, such as family influence. The owners nationality and City of origin has always been irrelevant to me - we don't watch him running around the pitch every week.

So it's where YOU draw the line, that's the question. You can accept football going down the drain if you like but I condemn that attitude. Football doesn't have to 'move on', if that's what you want to call it, but if you're willing to let it happen with not so much as a complaint, let alone a boycott, then it will. And if that's the case, I despair.

Congratulations on wilfully misinterpreting my post.

[Mack]

This against modern football business does itself absolutely no favours by associating itself with the bad old days of the 70's and 80's.

And yes those who actually went to Football then will tell you they were bad old days.

Despite the cheaper prices, atmosphere etc there was the horrendous violence and death, Victorian or worse conditions at most football grounds and a horrid stigma from the non football supporting public that we were all some sort of low life scum.

OK the sit down shut up attitude in more modern stadia needs to be compromised upon, but we certainly don't want people being cut open in the name of football again.

[Voll Blau]

This against modern football business does itself absolutely no favours by associating itself with the bad old days of the 70's and 80's.

And yes those who actually went to Football then will tell you they were bad old days.

Despite the cheaper prices, atmosphere etc there was the horrendous violence and death, Victorian or worse conditions at most football grounds and a horrid stigma from the non football supporting public that we were all some sort of low life scum.

OK the sit down shut up attitude in more modern stadia needs to be compromised upon, but we certainly don't want people being cut open in the name of football again.

Seems to me the only people who actually associate the movement with those kind of things are people who don't actually understand it.

Same principle as idiots who hark on about "the dark days of terracing" in debates about safe standing areas.