Uncle Albert Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Wales wish they had a number 10 of Flood's ability. That is a ridiculous thing to say..
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2013 Author Posted 12 March 2013 That is a ridiculous thing to say.. Well obviously, look who said it.
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 I remember the 2011 six nations Wales England game when Toby pissed all over the Welsh, perhaps you've forgotten through embarrassment.
Uncle Albert Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 I remember the 2011 six nations Wales England game when Toby pissed all over the Welsh, perhaps you've forgotten through embarrassment. Remembering one game in 2 years is always a real good way of justifying your point. You're right, he is brilliant.
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Remembering one game in 2 years is always a real good way of justifying your point. You're right, he is brilliant. Glad you agree. Move along.
Fox in the North Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 This thread will go mental this weekend. Can't wait
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2013 Author Posted 12 March 2013 He had a good game, yes, but I wouldn't go overboard. Not only were we immensely poor that day but Ashton's star turn was a big boon for Flood. One swallow, etc. Moreover, you're not playing that rugby now. In 2011 you were entertaining, your wingers were cutting in and making great lines off the shoulders of your strike runners / ball carriers. That's when you want a Flood, not a Farrell. This Six Nations hasn't been like that for any of us and it almost certainly won't be on Saturday - unless we open up in desperate need of those eight points. England need a low scoring game at the weekend, they need a well managed game at the weekend. They need to control territory, defend well and keep a steady stream of points ticking over. There's never been a game more suited to a Farrell or a Wilkinson, even an O'Gara type. That's not Flood. It'd be like us selecting Hook were the tables turned, except nobody in all of world rugby would pick Toby Flood over James Hook.
notnow john Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 I've been in England for years and I still can't watch this fixture in public without fighting someone!! Whenever my mates suggest it I have to seriously double check they're prepared. I've always admired and envied this fierce patriotism which is evident in all of the welsh people I have met. They seem prepared to do anything for their Wales - except live there of course.
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2013 Author Posted 12 March 2013 I've always admired and envied this fierce patriotism which is evident in all of the welsh people I have met. They seem prepared to do anything for their Wales - except live there of course. It's natural, though, isn't it really? You live surrounded by the English getting stick and banter all the time you develop a bit of a siege mentality. I've known all sorts here, Bulgarians, Taiwanese, Japanese, Irish, Welsh, you become far concerned by your nationality when you're not at home. If I hadn't moved out of Wales I think I'd care infinitely less about being Welsh. That said,outside of sport I don't hate England or the English. It's all just a laugh to me. God save our gr-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 He had a good game, yes, but I wouldn't go overboard. Not only were we immensely poor that day but Ashton's star turn was a big boon for Flood. One swallow, etc. Moreover, you're not playing that rugby now. In 2011 you were entertaining, your wingers were cutting in and making great lines off the shoulders of your strike runners / ball carriers. That's when you want a Flood, not a Farrell. This Six Nations hasn't been like that for any of us and it almost certainly won't be on Saturday - unless we open up in desperate need of those eight points. England need a low scoring game at the weekend, they need a well managed game at the weekend. They need to control territory, defend well and keep a steady stream of points ticking over. There's never been a game more suited to a Farrell or a Wilkinson, even an O'Gara type. That's not Flood. It'd be like us selecting Hook were the tables turned, except nobody in all of world rugby would pick Toby Flood over James Hook. I look forward to your humiliation at the weekend. I've always admired and envied this fierce patriotism which is evident in all of the welsh people I have met. They seem prepared to do anything for their Wales - except live there of course. And work
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 The welsh in the valleys used to hate the English with a fierce joy a few decades ago - Is it still the same or have they been tamed?
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2013 Author Posted 12 March 2013 The welsh in the valleys used to hate the English with a fierce joy a few decades ago - Is it still the same or have they been tamed? Welsh miners hated the English at the height of Thatcher destroying their livelihoods? Really? You think?
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Welsh miners hated the English at the height of Thatcher destroying their livelihoods? Really? You think? I can understand that but sadly that wasn't the limit of it. I knew a couple of young ladies who moved to the Cardiff area (seperately) and they were shunned by the locals even to the extent of people not talking to them and/or speaking only in Welsh at the local post office and shops. I've never experienced it personally as the Welsh all love me but not as much as the Scots. The Scots are certainly a more friendly bunch.
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Oh God, that old rubbish. You mean truth! Where were you from Llandudno?
The Doctor Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 The Scots are certainly a more friendly bunch. Someone has never been to Glasgow...
Alexikokopops Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 I can't help but think FIF is providing the perfect definition of hubris in his posting today. If we win I would have thought it will be a narrow one. If we win by more than 10 points I will buy FIF a pint at the next home game we're both at (let's ignore the fact that I haven't been to a home game since the Cardiff play-off semi and that you live in France...)
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2013 Author Posted 12 March 2013 You mean truth! Where were you from Llandudno? Born in Carmarthen, raised near Port Talbot, family nearly entirely from the Cynon.
Guest MattP Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Welsh miners hated the English at the height of Thatcher destroying their livelihoods? Really? You think? What a silly thing to say. Why should all the English be held accountable for that? Is that what the Welsh do, judge a whole group of people on one individual. Shame. Imagine what we would think of the Scots had we taken that attitude after Gordon Brown.
Guest Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Someone has never been to Glasgow... Many times. A rough and ready City with some of the nicest people on earth. I wouldn't want to live there but have many friends who claim to have. I like the Welsh too actually, just Finnegan brings out the best in me. Anyway back to the Rugby and England's grand slam winning victory please. Tuilagi double.
Finnegan Posted 12 March 2013 Author Posted 12 March 2013 What a silly thing to say. Why should all the English be held accountable for that? Don't be a bellend, Matt, I'm clearly being flippant. Though of course it was a time of enormous resentment towards England and, at the height of a very emotional time, probably the English. It becomes very easy, when you're angry and frustrated, to look across the border and see the entire entity as one. That feeling certainly isn't there today, en masse, no and it's a myth that it is. You saying that there aren't a hell of a lot of people who felt resentment towards Argentina/Argentines in general over the Falklands or the Irish over NI? Because I know a fair few English whom, to this day, hold a grudge. Hell, you in particularly don't even need to be from a culture to get involved in it's sectarianism and bigotry so I don't think you're really set to judge.
Guest MattP Posted 12 March 2013 Posted 12 March 2013 Don't be a bellend, Matt, I'm clearly being flippant. Though of course it was a time of enormous resentment towards England and, at the height of a very emotional time, probably the English. It becomes very easy, when you're angry and frustrated, to look across the border and see the entire entity as one. That feeling certainly isn't there today, en masse, no and it's a myth that it is. You saying that there aren't a hell of a lot of people who felt resentment towards Argentina/Argentines in general over the Falklands or the Irish over NI? Because I know a fair few English whom, to this day, hold a grudge. Hell, you in particularly don't even need to be from a culture to get involved in it's sectarianism and bigotry so I don't think you're really set to judge. Think it's an unfair comparison, people lost family members in those conflicts with Argies and the Irish. That can effect emotions to different level than a few minors being laid off.
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