Parafox Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 BBC website... "Leading medical bodies are calling for a 20p-per-litre levy on soft drinks to be included in this year's Budget. More than 60 organisations, including the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, are backing the recommendation by food and farming charity Sustain. *They say it would raise £1bn a year in duty to fund free fruit and meals in schools to improve children's health. The soft drinks industry says raising taxation is unnecessary. The British Soft Drink Association (BSDA) says companies are already playing their part in the fight against obesity. The BSDA's director general Gavin Partington said 61% of soft drinks "now contain no added sugar and we have seen soft drinks companies lead the way in committing to further, voluntary action as part of the government's Responsibility Deal calorie-reduction pledge." He said 10p from every 60p can of drink already goes to the government in tax. "Putting up taxes even further will put pressure on people's purses at a time when they can ill afford it," he said. Yeah, like they would use the tax for this* Would you be happy?
Captain... Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 BBC website... "Leading medical bodies are calling for a 20p-per-litre levy on soft drinks to be included in this year's Budget. More than 60 organisations, including the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, are backing the recommendation by food and farming charity Sustain. *They say it would raise £1bn a year in duty to fund free fruit and meals in schools to improve children's health. The soft drinks industry says raising taxation is unnecessary. The British Soft Drink Association (BSDA) says companies are already playing their part in the fight against obesity. The BSDA's director general Gavin Partington said 61% of soft drinks "now contain no added sugar and we have seen soft drinks companies lead the way in committing to further, voluntary action as part of the government's Responsibility Deal calorie-reduction pledge." He said 10p from every 60p can of drink already goes to the government in tax. "Putting up taxes even further will put pressure on people's purses at a time when they can ill afford it," he said. Yeah, like they would use the tax for this* Would you be happy? Yup, as long as it was only on non diet soft drinks, sugar free soft drinks are fine.
Webbo Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 BBC website... "Leading medical bodies are calling for I'd just like to point this out before everybody starts accusing the govt. Personally I've always thought that there should be some form of punitive tax on sugar. It's a nutrition free empty calorie that rots your teeth and gives you diabetes.
Parafox Posted 30 January 2013 Author Posted 30 January 2013 Personally I've always thought that there should be some form of punitive tax on sugar. It's a nutrition free empty calorie that rots your teeth and gives you diabetes. Yeah, but you can't beat a sugar sarnie If they want to add a tax to sugary drinks, why not go the whole hog and tax everything that contains sugar? Or salt... or saturated fat?
Jaspa Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 Yup, as long as it was only on non diet soft drinks, sugar free soft drinks are fine. No theyre not Google Aspartane and word up
Parafox Posted 30 January 2013 Author Posted 30 January 2013 Mummy state. I think you mean "nanny state". But as Webbo pointed out it's a proposal from a lobby group to government, not the government making the proposal.
bigbadbaldy Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 Soft drinks account for about 2% of an average individuals daily calorie intake, would this tax really have an effect? What about fatty foods like burgers, chips etc?
MooseBreath Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 I think you mean "nanny state". But as Webbo pointed out it's a proposal from a lobby group to government, not the government making the proposal. No, I mean mummy state. Nanny's are generally more distant, they can impose authority but generally don't unless you're really misbehaving. Mummy's on the other hand practically run your life, they decide everything from what you're going to eat to what you are going to wear to what you are and aren't allowed to do. We've gone past the nanny state and are turning into a mummy state.
Captain... Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 Soft drinks account for about 2% of an average individuals daily calorie intake, would this tax really have an effect? What about fatty foods like burgers, chips etc? But this is not about the average person, this is about those that over consume on soft drinks and get fat and cost the NHS lots of money, the average person drinks and eats an average amount is fairly healthy.
bigbadbaldy Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 But this is not about the average person, this is about those that over consume on soft drinks and get fat and cost the NHS lots of money, the average person drinks and eats an average amount is fairly healthy. But what are the chances that these people are purely over-indulging on soft drinks? Chances are they are eating the wrong things as well meaning that most of their calories are coming from food.
Parafox Posted 30 January 2013 Author Posted 30 January 2013 But this is not about the average person, this is about those that over consume on soft drinks and get fat and cost the NHS lots of money, the average person drinks and eats an average amount is fairly healthy. But then, isn't this similar to the proposed tax per unit of alcohol in as much as the "normal" majority will have to take the hit for the "abnormal" minority?
Captain... Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 No there not Google Aspartane and word up Google it yourself and realise that it is perfectly safe except to those suffering from phenylketonuria the sugar industry has tried to discredit it for years but it has been rigorously tested and is deemed perfectly safe.
Captain... Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 But what are the chances that these people are purely over-indulging on soft drinks? Chances are they are eating the wrong things as well meaning that most of their calories are coming from food. Oh they are not, but I think that soft drinks are one part of a lazy and self destructive diet, all other aspects of it should be highly taxed too, such as chocolate, sweet, takeaways, ready meals.
Webbo Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 I read in a book once that in 1900 the average man consumed 12lbs of sugar a year now it's 120lbs a year. All around us there is an obesity and type 2 diabetes epidemic, there has to be a connection there.
bigbadbaldy Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 I read in a book once that in 1900 the average man consumed 12lbs of sugar a year now it's 120lbs a year. All around us there is an obesity and type 2 diabetes epidemic, there has to be a connection there. Connection to soft drinks?
Parafox Posted 30 January 2013 Author Posted 30 January 2013 But what are the chances that these people are purely over-indulging on soft drinks? Chances are they are eating the wrong things as well meaning that most of their calories are coming from food. There was a guy on that Supersize program last night whose main diet was in fact cola drinks and he was like a rake. The fat bloke was on burgers, fried food, pizza's and was HUUUUGE. I think the proposal is aimed at the other effects of sugar intake; diabetes, tooth decay, etc, as well as obesity. Plus we are pretty ignorant of just how much sugar is added to foods these days, in particular processed foods. Cereal's are my main gripe. Why do so many know have "chocolatey" alternatives. Cereal bars too. Just buy a packet of porridge oats and BOIL SOME MILK.. lazy, lazy people.
Finnegan Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 **** off. You don't want your fat little shits drinking coke then stop giving them coke. Stop using "health" as an excuse for stealth tax on everything, Jesus.
Webbo Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 Connection to soft drinks? Well obviously you're not getting all sugar by the bag, it's in the things you eat and drink. As I said earlier I'd tax all sugar not just fizzy drinks.
bigbadbaldy Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 Well obviously you're not getting all sugar by the bag, it's in the things you eat and drink. As I said earlier I'd tax all sugar not just fizzy drinks. But it you are going to tax sugar, what about those other things that cause obesity?
Parafox Posted 30 January 2013 Author Posted 30 January 2013 **** off. You don't want your fat little shits drinking coke then stop giving them coke. Stop using "health" as an excuse for stealth tax on everything, Jesus.
Webbo Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 But it you are going to tax sugar, what about those other things that cause obesity? In my, totally unscientific , opinion, sugar is the main cause of obesity and well as diabetes and tooth decay. Putting 10p on a bottle of pop or packet of biscuits isn't going to stop anyone eating/drinking them but it might mean they eat less.
Captain... Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 **** off. You don't want your fat little shits drinking coke then stop giving them coke. Stop using "health" as an excuse for stealth tax on everything, Jesus. Why not? As long as the tax money is used to subsidise healthy foods and fruits, one of the problems is that a bag of sweets or a coke is more accessible than an Apple or Orange Juice.
bigbadbaldy Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 In my, totally unscientific , opinion, sugar is the main cause of obesity and well as diabetes and tooth decay. Putting 10p on a bottle of pop or packet of biscuits isn't going to stop anyone eating/drinking them but it might mean they eat less. Pretty unlikely imo but it might be worth a try. There are so many other causes including lack of exercise from the reduction in open spaces etc. How about taxing but putting that money in to creating more facilities and open spaces?
Saxondale Posted 30 January 2013 Posted 30 January 2013 Yet more abhorrent, totalitarian social engineering by taxation. When will the government learn their place in society - they don't own us, they serve us. If all want to all be fat b'stards, that's our prerogative.
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