Labour admits the Tories were right all along

[Webbo]

Who hates the mail?  lefties?  So you think all the negative comments that include comments criticising the labour government are from labour voters on a tory paper.

 

Seems a bit of a stretch especially when most praise tory and UKIP.

You're going to have to give me an example so that we're not at cross purposes.

[purpleronnie]

But maybe for a lot of people it is mostly bad Ron.

 

Have to remember not everyone lives in a nice place in the countryside, has plenty of money and has a weekend retreat in St Ives.

 

For all you know the people commenting could be people whose cleaning company has gone down the toilet as a Polish firm can do it for 50% as they have ten living in a house, things aren't cut and dry in life.

I dunno matt I don't think it is bad for most, I live in a town but my house backs onto a field..

 

Although I guess it depends on what you think 'bad' is, if you can pay your bills, have a roof over yor head and a job then things imo aren't 'bad', and I think the vast majority are in that boat.

 

I understand there are plenty who have got it tough...but I believe things are better now than they were when I left school.  I was unemployed and did get a job as a postman on a low wage but I was very happy, I guess people are different and some may have a lot but still feel sad so you are right its certainly not cut and dried and its complex.  I'm not saying people should be more positive just for the sake of it, but maybe just take a look back and maybe realise that in the whole scheme of things it really isnt worth dedicating so much time to posting negative comments on news stories..

 

 

I agree there maybe many posting negative stuff because they've been hit hard but I just don't think it is the majority. There is a trait within the british public who love moaning, we arent a nation that often looks on the brightside of things infact even when someone is doing well they'll often play it down.

 

Thats not necessarily a bad thing, the USA is a prime example of pretty much the polar opposite of attitudes, they can be living in complete poverty but will be extremely proud to be an American.  I think somewhere inbetween is the best.

[Guest MattP]

Understand that Ron.

 

You are gonna to really have to change that username you know soon. Purpleronnie just screams a UKIP fanatic.

[purpleronnie]

Understand that Ron.

 

You are gonna to really have to change that username you know soon. Purpleronnie just screams a UKIP fanatic.

 

No way I'd rather vote UKIP instead.

[RobHawk]

I guess it's a vicious cycle mate.

Fear of the economic situation (wages being frozen, increased unemployment, rising inflationary pressures) instill apprehension in spending. Which further aggravates the problem.

There is no easy solution. I think mine is generally more of a philosophical argument. I would still continue to save (if I had the means too) even when the economy was flourishing. Because its what I've been brought up to do. 'If you can't afford it, you can't afford it' type thing.

 

I'm a bit of a saver like you Col, my current preferred method for the majority of saving is to pay more off more of my mortgage as the interest rate of my mortgage is higher than any savings account on the market (until my fixed term comes to an end in Feb and i can get a much better deal anyway). 

 

But economics is a bitch and doesn't always support those who are more sensible with their money (or at least in a position to do so as many aren't). But you have to look at the bigger picture and realsie just how ****ed somep people would be if interest rates went up. They will eventually and we will probably see different people getting into dificulty than we do now. Another reason why i pay my mortgage off, i know rates on it will go up so every penny i can repay early without penalty only reduces my future interest payments as well.

 

For the record i am just over 3 years into my mortgage so have plenty to repay and i obviously don't know your individual circumstances! Just a thought though 

[Rincewind]

I dunno matt I don't think it is bad for most, I live in a town but my house backs onto a field..

 

Although I guess it depends on what you think 'bad' is, if you can pay your bills, have a roof over yor head and a job then things imo aren't 'bad', and I think the vast majority are in that boat.

 

I understand there are plenty who have got it tough...but I believe things are better now than they were when I left school.  I was unemployed and did get a job as a postman on a low wage but I was very happy, I guess people are different and some may have a lot but still feel sad so you are right its certainly not cut and dried and its complex.  I'm not saying people should be more positive just for the sake of it, but maybe just take a look back and maybe realise that in the whole scheme of things it really isnt worth dedicating so much time to posting negative comments on news stories..

 

 

I agree there maybe many posting negative stuff because they've been hit hard but I just don't think it is the majority. There is a trait within the british public who love moaning, we arent a nation that often looks on the brightside of things infact even when someone is doing well they'll often play it down.

 

Thats not necessarily a bad thing, the USA is a prime example of pretty much the polar opposite of attitudes, they can be living in complete poverty but will be extremely proud to be an American.  I think somewhere inbetween is the best.

 

 

I saw a quote the oyjer day. I wrote it down but don't have it nearby. It was from a newspaper agony Aunt.

 

'I love people asking my advice. If you are depressed, it's lovely to offer comfort to someone more miserable than you.'

Virginia Ironside.

[MooseBreath]

Comments sections on the internet are notoriously miserable. I don't make a habit of reading the DM or its comments sections but I'd be surprised if it's any worse than any of the other news sites.

[Rincewind]

I'm a bit of a saver like you Col, my current preferred method for the majority of saving is to pay more off more of my mortgage as the interest rate of my mortgage is higher than any savings account on the market (until my fixed term comes to an end in Feb and i can get a much better deal anyway). 

 

But economics is a bitch and doesn't always support those who are more sensible with their money (or at least in a position to do so as many aren't). But you have to look at the bigger picture and realsie just how ****ed somep people would be if interest rates went up. They will eventually and we will probably see different people getting into dificulty than we do now. Another reason why i pay my mortgage off, i know rates on it will go up so every penny i can repay early without penalty only reduces my future interest payments as well.

 

For the record i am just over 3 years into my mortgage so have plenty to repay and i obviously don't know your individual circumstances! Just a thought though 

 You never know what is around the corner. Some are better prepared for the dowms but how many on here have paid out £500 plus for a season ticket and have a contract with Sky Sports for £30 per month? If your income was halved that is a lot of tinned soups.

[purpleronnie]

Comments sections on the internet are notoriously miserable. I don't make a habit of reading the DM or its comments sections but I'd be surprised if it's any worse than any of the other news sites.

You may well be right moose, its just the DM online site seems to be much more active so you tend to read much more negativity on there.

 

It's not so much people posting negative things because sometimes its justified, but when I try and counter their arguements with facts that prove their post to be false I'll recieve huge amounts of negative rep.

 

Now if I posted something in a negative way and someone else replied proving that my view was incorrect and the truth was actually more positive I wouldn't give negative rep, I would be happier because the truth was more positive, but that doesn't happen on the Daily Mail site, thats what I dont understand.

[lavrentis]

Not sure where I should put this but I read a way which could possible cut NHS A+E waiting times. Apply a fixed flat fee to non emergency cases. I'd vote for that!

[leicsmac]

Not sure where I should put this but I read a way which could possible cut NHS A+E waiting times. Apply a fixed flat fee to non emergency cases. I'd vote for that!

 

Kind of idea that sounds good...but that would set a very, very dangerous precedent.