a few championship teams-ticket prices

[filbertway]

TUT TUT Mexican waves are good especially when the players and manager start doing em!:):)

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I can remeber in the promotion season when trev started the wave once, ah the memories

[Anish]

I've been a staunch supporter of lower match day prices even though I'm a long standing season ticket holder but if it means more mexican waves, well done Tim keep those prices high 

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I can't stand the Mexican waves either, especially when we are only winning by 1 goal or so. By all means do the Mexican wave if we are 2 goals (or more) up with 2 minutes to go (although under MA that still would've been risky!) but to do it when you're only a goal up is asking for trouble.

[Guest]

I think Sheffield Wednesday are the team whose prices we should concentrate on, they are getting the most attendances this season and even last season in league 1 they were getting more than a lot of championship teams.

http://www.swfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Prices/0,,10304,00.html

Here is the link to their ticket prices. Compared to Leicester their prices seem much fairer and logical.

Kids and STUDENTS!!!!!! (who I think are the most important) Only pay £13 at most at city it is DOUBLE, Students have no money and we all know that so if the club wants them to come in they cannot charge them £25. And students being students like to bet and buy a beer so that means over £30! And the club wonders why attendances are so poor.

FFS CITY OPEN YOUR EYES AND THINK ABOUT IT! The prices are ludricous and unless we are top 6 the attendances will plummet even further. 21,000 on the first home saturday game against a big team is appaling. The club cannot wait THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT NOW.

I have a season ticket and it means me paying more over the course of the season than just buying match tickets then so be it. Games are much more enjoyable when you cant see an empty seat, and you have the whole ground rocking!

Just think, Mexican waves arent going to be possible

Ahem.

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Does the Sheff Weds website also give details of the players wages for the coming season?

[Chrysalis]

Lisa you assuming lower prices = lower revenue, what are you basing this on?

If prices were dropped by £5 for example a 25k attendance would make the same revenue as 22k at the current prices, a 26k attendance would make more money.

[Foxes_Trust]

I think Sheffield Wednesday are the team whose prices we should concentrate on, they are getting the most attendances this season and even last season in league 1 they were getting more than a lot of championship teams.

http://www.swfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Prices/0,,10304,00.html

Here is the link to their ticket prices. Compared to Leicester their prices seem much fairer and logical.

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So you are now comparing prices of a club who has spent many of its recent years in the Premiership with one that has fallen on more difficult playing times in the 3rd tier (or League 1 as its now known).

Think about the background to how these match prices will have evolved in the last 10 years - Sheff Weds have only just got back up so are starting their pricing levels on a totally different planet to where we are from.

To do fair comparisons look at clubs in similar circumstances - Leeds, Derby etc

[Foxes_Trust]

Lisa you assuming lower prices = lower revenue, what are you basing this on?

If prices were dropped by £5 for example a 25k attendance would make the same revenue as 22k at the current prices, a 26k attendance would make more money.

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Many assumptions on the message boards based on a £5 reduction = many thousands on the gate - but is this true?

Can we not face the reality that some City fans only really want to watch us play the Man Utd's of this world. They can put up with one year away from the Premiership (hence 1st season at the Walkers crowds) but once we aren't going to bounce back up, they lose interest. Hence the decline last season as the months progressed.

The £5 difference between the Stoke & Ipswich game seemed to make little difference. So will a few thousand return Vs Luton (being £5 cheaper than Ipswich) happen?

[Foxes_Trust]

Just a thought.....

The club decide to lower ticket prices to increase crowds at the WS.  Tickets sell well, and we start to average 25K.  We then go on a run, winning 8 on the bounce.  Fans who don't get to many games suddenly get the urge to go to games again, an inevitable part of the success of the club.  However, games are now selling out.

Question: Do these fans have the right then to moan about not being able to get match tickets, a scenario which has happened in the past?  Please bear in mind that these fans will no doubt be the some of the same fans complaining about high ticket prices.

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We have always advised the club to reward fans loyalty. We do believe the difference between ST prices & matchday are too great (as in matchday should fall) however that is why we are in favour of the membership scheme as it rewards regulars on a game by game basis.

We would have no sympathy for fans who would miss out in your scenario above, but doubt we will see it this year

[Foxes_Trust]

Well said LISA, if were successful then people will come back in droves..... COVSCUM for the OPENER of the new RIOCH staduim can only get 23,000 now that worrying as they have spent £60M.

I have never moaned about the price of tickets, maybe adding value to the tickets could be by saying 20% off a new home top with this ticket (£8), or a free drink etc of lower grade games.... this is called bolt-ons (not the team) and everyone wins

If we get Chelsea/Manure in the CUP then people will come, the truth is that only the season ticket holders year in year out should get any futher benefits.

Where were all the voices at the open meeting...eh lisa........ about 40 of us!

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There are a number of City 'fans' who should have "can't be arsed" (CBA) tatooed on their backside

CBA - to come to open meetings

CBA - to go to non-glamour games

CBA - to bung in £10 when the club nearly goes out of existance

But will moan

- that the club never listens to fans / organises meetings when they are busy washing their hair

- ticket prices are high to justify to themselves their non appearance at games to their mates

- about the board (who made all the effort to keep the club going in the first place)

- and will no doubt criticise the Trust for daring to criticise any fans

Now for the fun part.

Any posters on here like to nominate other posters for the CBA Award of 2005 ?

[filbertway]

There are a number of City 'fans' who should have "can't be arsed" (CBA) tatooed on their backside

CBA - to come to open meetings

CBA - to go to non-glamour games

CBA - to bung in £10 when the club nearly goes out of existance

But will moan

- that the club never listens to fans / organises meetings when they are busy washing their hair

- ticket prices are high to justify to themselves their non appearance at games to their mates

- about the board (who made all the effort to keep the club going in the first place)

- and will no doubt criticise the Trust for daring to criticise any fans

Now for the fun part.

Any posters on here like to nominate other posters for the CBA Award of 2005 ?

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The fans voice

What if we want to go to non glamour games but dont want to pay glamour prices?

Non glamour game should = non glamour price, not £20

[Bluefoxtim]

So you are now comparing prices of a club who has spent many of its recent years in the Premiership with one that has fallen on more difficult playing times in the 3rd tier (or League 1 as its now known).

Think about the background to how these match prices will have evolved in the last 10 years - Sheff  Weds have only just got back up so are starting their pricing levels on a totally different planet to where we are from.

To do fair comparisons look at clubs in similar circumstances - Leeds, Derby etc

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Yes but even when the were relegated from the premier, then div 1, then league 1 THE PRICES WERE REDUCED SUFFICENTLY EACH TIME

Don't start telling me that their just loyal fans.

Their prices went cheaper to accomadate poor games and a poorer standard of football.

DIFFERENT PLANET??? Well seeing as they have the highest attendance in the league then we should be comparing them to ourselves... and as for comparing ourselves with LEEDS????? You having a laugh? They have an even worse attendance than ourselves! You don't look around and go oh well we have more than Leeds, and be satisfied with that. We should be looking at the teams with the highest support and push ourselves to meet that standard. 20,000 is a joke.

You can't just be happy with that. The club needs to experiment with things. On the main entrance at the stadium does it not say "......we are individual...." so why should we follow other teams like sheep. The one year shirt cycle, Tim Davies, "other teams have it like that so we are as well"

Im sick of going to games with a crap attendance.

:fox:

[lush]

There are a number of City 'fans' who should have "can't be arsed" (CBA) tatooed on their backside

CBA - to come to open meetings

CBA - to go to non-glamour games

CBA - to bung in £10 when the club nearly goes out of existance

But will moan

- that the club never listens to fans / organises meetings when they are busy washing their hair

- ticket prices are high to justify to themselves their non appearance at games to their mates

- about the board (who made all the effort to keep the club going in the first place)

- and will no doubt criticise the Trust for daring to criticise any fans

Now for the fun part.

Any posters on here like to nominate other posters for the CBA Award of 2005 ?

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The people your talking about arnt die hards, and probably dont say they are.

Its not law that if you go to a game, that you must go to all of them. Sounds to me like your suggesting fans go to all games or there not a fan? Quantify a `fan`?

I`d like to nominate you for a CBA award, you CBA to accept that people have a CHOICE.

[davieG]

The people your talking about arnt die hards, and probably dont say they are.

Its not law that if you go to a game, that you must go to all of them. Sounds to me like your suggesting fans go to all games or there not a fan? Quantify a `fan`?

I`d like to nominate you for a CBA award, you CBA to accept that people have a CHOICE.

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As a Foxes Trust Member & Season ticket Holder I agree with Lush, are you saying that these so called CBAs are not valued customers, we were certainly happy to take their money in the previous seasons, all fans are not the same, some are

Diehard, with LCFC engraved on their hearts

Staunch supporters that go to all games home and many away

Enthusiastic and go to every game they can

Occasional attendees as and when time and money permits

Only go to the glamour games

Support other teams, but just like to watch a game of football

Buy every bit of merchandise they can get their hands on

Wouldn't be seen dead in a replica shirt, but attends every match

I could go on but I hope you get the point - they are all sources of revenue for Leicester City and should be valued and encouraged to attend, you never know they could end up as diehards.

They should certainly not be sneered at and I'm extremely disapointed that you feel it's necessary to do so.

As a final example I know of someone who's always been a Leicester City but for whatever reason attends very few matches, buys no merchandise, attends no fans meetings so you would call them a CBA but I know they contributed significantly by comparison when we were in trouble so please don't judge people that is not your role.

[Katy]

There are a number of City 'fans' who should have "can't be arsed" (CBA) tatooed on their backside

CBA - to come to open meetings

CBA - to go to non-glamour games

CBA - to bung in £10 when the club nearly goes out of existance

But will moan

- that the club never listens to fans / organises meetings when they are busy washing their hair

- ticket prices are high to justify to themselves their non appearance at games to their mates

- about the board (who made all the effort to keep the club going in the first place)

- and will no doubt criticise the Trust for daring to criticise any fans

Now for the fun part.

Any posters on here like to nominate other posters for the CBA Award of 2005 ?

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I forked out a tenner to support the Foxes Trusts' campaign to help my beloved club, I moan about ticket prices because I dont like getting ripped off. I find it difficult to attend AGMs as I live in Lincolnshire and getting to and fro in the evenings is sometimes difficult. Im 'getting off my arse' to go to a supposed 'non glamour' tie on Tuesday. There are lots of fans in a similar position.

If you want to be respected by supporters then you will do well not to label them!

[Anish]

Wahay, the Foxes Trust show their true colours.

At this rate you'll be lucky to have people renewing their subscriptions with the Foxes Trust if you keep criticising them for not spending every spare penny they have on either the club or the trust. Appreciate the people that 'can be arsed' rather than criticising those that you think cannot be arsed.

[cisono]

all prices are the clubs cheapest seat(adult) for the equivalent of an A game price

palace £30

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few clubs ripping fans off but a few good deals there

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Palace's replica shirts are also rather expensive

Current prices:

2005/2006 season: 40 pounds

2004/2005 season: 20 pounds

[pink_flamingo]

as far as im concerned,theirs nothing worse than a whole empty stand, so i dont see why they but tickets at £20 and only have 50% of the ground full, when they could sell tham at £15 and have 75% of the stadium full. this isnt any club, just an example

[Sparky]

I forked out a tenner to support the Foxes Trusts' campaign to help my beloved club, I moan about ticket prices because I dont like getting ripped off. I find it difficult to attend AGMs as I live in Lincolnshire and getting to and fro in the evenings is sometimes difficult. Im 'getting off my arse' to go to a supposed 'non glamour' tie on Tuesday. There are lots of fans in a similar position.

If you want to be respected by supporters then you will do well not to label them!

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im a member of the ft and on the whole they aint done a bad job , they give us a small voice at the club we love and did help us keep our exsistance, but they dont seem interested in fighting this battle for the supporters they claim to represent , so whats the point in having the ft . stick your tenner

dont u fancy walking in to the board room and telling the club that the prices are absurd

cba - to renew my ft membership

signed - st holder and away regular

[Foxes_Trust]

The people your talking about arnt die hards, and probably dont say they are.

Its not law that if you go to a game, that you must go to all of them. Sounds to me like your suggesting fans go to all games or there not a fan? Quantify a `fan`?

I`d like to nominate you for a CBA award, you CBA to accept that people have a CHOICE.

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Of course every individual has a choice, that's not what we were saying.

The Trust has always encompassed all 'types' of fan, whether they be an every game person. home games only, occasional games or support from their armchair.

In summary what the post was trying to say is that a number of individuals will moan about every part of the club be it, prices, directors, pre-match etc - but deep down they will only actually go to games when the Man Utd's of this world turn up. As you have said not die hards.

They won't go to watch Crewe, never have & never will - but will then blame 'ticket prices' as the reason rather than admitting they just won't go if the glamour clubs aren't playing.

[Foxes_Trust]

As a Foxes Trust Member & Season ticket Holder I agree with Lush, are you saying that these so called CBAs are not valued customers, we were certainly happy to take their money in the previous seasons, all fans are not the same, some are

Diehard, with LCFC engraved on their hearts

Staunch supporters that go to all games home and many away

Enthusiastic and go to every game they can

Occasional attendees as and when time and money permits

Only go to the glamour games

Support other teams, but just like to watch a game of football

Buy every bit of merchandise they can get their hands on

Wouldn't be seen dead in a replica shirt, but attends every match

I could go on but I hope you get the point - they are all sources of revenue for Leicester City and should be valued and encouraged to attend, you never know they could end up as diehards.

They should certainly not be sneered at and I'm extremely disapointed that you feel it's necessary to do so.

As a final example I know of someone who's always been a Leicester City but for whatever reason attends very few matches, buys no merchandise, attends no fans meetings so you would call them a CBA but I know they contributed significantly by comparison when we were in trouble so please don't judge people that is not your role.

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Agreed there are all those fan types & many more.

Personal circumstances will dictate that a number of fans can't attend games due to a career move, change in family set up or financial hardship. The post was not aimed at any of those catagories.

Going back to the dark days of administration, we were astounded that only just over 3,000 City fans contributed via joining the Trust, yet who all proclaim their undying love for the club, couldn't give up a few beers & put £10's into help saving the club. The club was within 30 minutes of not exisiting & that is a fact.

So at times our cynical side appears when all fans do is complain and not face the reality of our clubs current position and show their support by continuing to go to some games.

As a Trust we try to influence the club to ensure fans get a good deal & have always stated that loyalty should be rewarded.

On this basis looking at the cheapest tickets, Season Ticket holders are paying around £11 per game, members can pay £17 for the majority of fixtures (grade B) we don't feel that is a bad deal.

We have recommended that the number of A games is reduced in comparison to last season, so far one game Ipswich was given this catagory. The match day prices have not altered (& reduced with membership), but the level of message board posts about the pricing seems to have rocketed.

[Foxes_Trust]

I forked out a tenner to support the Foxes Trusts' campaign to help my beloved club, I moan about ticket prices because I dont like getting ripped off. I find it difficult to attend AGMs as I live in Lincolnshire and getting to and fro in the evenings is sometimes difficult. Im 'getting off my arse' to go to a supposed 'non glamour' tie on Tuesday. There are lots of fans in a similar position.

If you want to be respected by supporters then you will do well not to label them!

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We didn't expect individual fans to defend their own positions and clearly we were not referring to you Katassi on a variety of counts based upon the above.

It is interesting from the reaction on here, as per previous ones, fans expect us to slaughter the club about its actions on frequent occasions "Haven't the Trust sorted this out yet" type of comments, but whenever we have a slight dig at our own fan base the hackles are soon raised.

We do believe it is right to challenge fans perceptions & that occasionally means posting the odd provocative post to separate deeply held views by the majority from those who just want something for nothing.

In reality we want to flush out why fans aren't going to games, is it really a price issue only?

We often discuss projections of Season Tickets & Match Attendances with the club, on the whole we are more pessimistic than the club & we are usually close to the actual figures. Therefore we are concerned about the Stoke & Ipswich crowds which were lower than we expected

[Foxes_Trust]

Wahay, the Foxes Trust show their true colours.

At this rate you'll be lucky to have people renewing their subscriptions with the Foxes Trust if you keep criticising them for not spending every spare penny they have on either the club or the trust. Appreciate the people that 'can be arsed' rather than criticising those that you think cannot be arsed.

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We don't expect anybody to throw all their dosh at the club or the Trust, there are many more important things in life, the relative importance is up to the individual.

What we are trying to gather more information on is why several more thousand people can't be arsed to go to the ground anymore

[Chrysalis]

Be careful what you say, the fact I havent gone to a game yet is down to money not because I CBA, because I can't walk very far without problems I will need a taxi to take me there and back on top of the match day cost. I live on a tiny income, if I was in the position to I would attend every home game.

[Foxes_Trust]

im a member of the ft and on the whole they aint done a bad job , they give us a small voice at the club we love and did help us keep our exsistance, but they dont seem interested in fighting this battle for the supporters they  claim to represent , so whats the point in having the ft . stick your tenner 

dont u fancy walking in to the board room and telling the club that the prices are absurd

cba - to renew my ft membership

signed - st holder and away regular

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As stated earlier we have always encouraged the club to reward loyalty. The season ticket prices at £11/game easily achieve this. For those that can't afford the upfront payment, we feel the introduction of the membership scheme provides a benefit for attending only a quarter of the games & potentially as little as 4 games.

So that leaves the fans who will turn up either for

a) Fans fixtures due to the cheap price - that seemed to equate to several thousand last season, based on attendances

OR

b) Those who will select who they feel are appealing fixtures.

In lobbying terms, as these fans by lack of attendance would be defined as 'less loyal' are not so high in our priority.

However overall we do constantly give feedback to the club about match gradings & will continue to do so, therefore we are representing fans views over this issue.

There have been several good ideas on 'offers' or 'packages' posted on message boards over the past week & we have fed some on to the club to consider. At the end of the day though the club makes the final decision.

[Foxes_Trust]

Be careful what you say, the fact I havent gone to a game yet is down to money not because I CBA, because I can't walk very far without problems I will need a taxi to take me there and back on top of the match day cost.  I live on a tiny income, if I was in the position to I would attend every home game.

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With that in mind it may be worth asking on message boards to see if anybody going to the game lives near you & could give you a lift. There are numerous cars with single occupants going to games, so somebody may be able to help.

[Leicester_Mad]

With that in mind it may be worth asking on message boards to see if anybody going to the game lives near you & could give you a lift. There are numerous cars with single occupants going to games, so somebody may be able to help.

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and park where exactly? he cant walk very far and there isnt much parking around the WS

TimSmith - Leeds had the highest attendance in the league last season

Prices are too high and as someone said - non-glamour games dont mean non-glamour prices at City anymore. I certainly wont be attending much over the next 3years after this one because as a student i just cant afford it