Rocket-Ron Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Just had a look at the rules, no mention of controversy I bet you didn't really
Fox92 Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Fourth official, considering they do very little anyway, should be watching on a screen. It doesn't take much for him to tell the referee "he's dived", "it's in the penalty area" etc. The game is usually stopped for a few minutes while players argue over these decisions anyway.
davieG Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Considering how long it takes to set up a free kick these days by comparison you'd hardly notice a game stoppage for video review. Let's have more quickly taken free kicks or at least have a visible time and stop it for the time wasted setting up the free kicks. As we can't even understand in many cases the logic behind the length of added time a proper visible timekeeping is as much a priority if not more than video reviews and would be simple and cheap to introduce.
Donut Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 For all matters of fact, ie goals, offsides, inside or outside he box, yes, get the technology in, its needed. In terms of fouls, was it or wasnt it, the decision is still subjective, and thats the problem for me. Its still someones opinion at the end of the day and decisions will always be difficult. how do you KNOW how much contact it took in a situation to send someone over? how do you KNOW someone dived? you dont, its all subjective. No doubt players would get wise to knowing what they could challenge and get away with too probably in the end, like tactical stoppages to relieve pressure etc. I dont think its as clear cut as it would seem. Anything FACTUAL in the game, then yes, by all means bring it in. put one of those camera's that can move up and down the touchline for offsides and make it follow the last defender. But i could also get started about the lower levels of football too and that they couldnt have the technology and that their issues shouldnt be swept under the rug either, thats a whole seperate debate.
Corky Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 For all matters of fact, ie goals, offsides, inside or outside he box, yes, get the technology in, its needed. In terms of fouls, was it or wasnt it, the decision is still subjective, and thats the problem for me. Its still someones opinion at the end of the day and decisions will always be difficult. how do you KNOW how much contact it took in a situation to send someone over? how do you KNOW someone dived? you dont, its all subjective. No doubt players would get wise to knowing what they could challenge and get away with too probably in the end, like tactical stoppages to relieve pressure etc. I dont think its as clear cut as it would seem. Anything FACTUAL in the game, then yes, by all means bring it in. put one of those camera's that can move up and down the touchline for offsides and make it follow the last defender. But i could also get started about the lower levels of football too and that they couldnt have the technology and that their issues shouldnt be swept under the rug either, thats a whole seperate debate. The key thing for me, you'll still have debates over fouls, dives, handballs, subjective decisions will still cause issues whether technology is involved or not. No doubt it will clear up a good amount but not every decision.
Dan Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 It's gotten totally out of hand; the referees are getting increasingly worse and it's getting beyond a joke now. There's no need to use it for major incidents and both have their merits. Personally I prefer the challenge system myself. There's a danger that refs get like rugby union officials, scurrying up to replays every time something marginal happens. That would get frustrating (though on this season could we trust the referees anyway). This (maybe unfairly in many eyes) put the onus onto the players and managers to rectify what they see as an injustice, and they retain or lose their challenges accordingly. I wouldn't mind the unlimited replay with referee discretion, but I wouldn't be comfortable with it being for everything. Will we need to go to replay for every contentious throw in? That would get tedious. Offsides, fouls, red cards, penalties etc bring it in and stop the silliness. The other danger with this option is that it wouldn't eradicate the surrounding refs at all. You'd get players around the ref haranguing him to go to a replay to prove their point, even if the ref is absolutely certain and right. Might also be a momentum-changing factor too. If you're on the back foot and blowing out your arse try and kick up a fuss so the ref goes to a replay on a decision to kill some momentum. Both have their pros and cons, of course major decisions might go against teams if they're out of challenges, but it might alleviate excessive replays. If we're talking of a challenge system then I wouldn't mind that teams who abuse it (ie time waste/continue to make awful claims) to be given less 'challenges' to be used in future games as a penalty.
Dan Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Challenge system works for me as well. Would stop frivolous appeals and make people look ridiculous when they deserve too moaning about decisions that are clearly correct. Needs to be action taken though rather than 'looking ridiculous' because as proven by some of the play-acting, looking ridiculous doesn't bother them. We've got to hit cheats where it hurts. The key thing for me, you'll still have debates over fouls, dives, handballs, subjective decisions will still cause issues whether technology is involved or not. No doubt it will clear up a good amount but not every decision. That's where having less grey areas needs to come in. The rules for me are not clear enough.
Richard Posted 25 March 2015 Posted 25 March 2015 There's a 5th official watching replays who the referee can ask when not sure in a decision. No challenges, no abuses and the referee gets the help he needs
digitalalba Posted 25 March 2015 Author Posted 25 March 2015 True, the game works because of the rules in the book. But there are still incidents that polarise people that each side have fair assessments of, we could be sat on the sidelines for minutes whilst someone in the black box deliberates whether he touched his toe or the ball first. There really has to be thought and refinement put into this before its introduced, it will work if its done right as we've seen with goalline tech but any incidents where it goes wrong and people will attack it. Have you ever seen a polarised view between two referees? People, who's only job is to abide by the letter of the rules. It's quite simple, fourth official monitors an event and calls to the ref to stop the game should he see something the ref hasn't.
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 25 March 2015 Posted 25 March 2015 There's a 5th official watching replays who the referee can ask when not sure in a decision. No challenges, no abuses and the referee gets the help he needs Exactly! This would also help with the player's surrounding the ref knowing that the incident was being monitored and refereed correctly.
Carl the Llama Posted 26 March 2015 Posted 26 March 2015 Presumably some sort of video replay system would make it a lot harder for match-fixing syndicates to operate.
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