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Don't get me wrong, I'm right behind Levein and desperately want him to succeed, but can you see us improving?

The current side hasn't been together very long and is still apparently 'gelling. However, the side will never gel effectively if Levein doesn't decide on a settled line up. Kisnorbo was the 5th different left back used this season, another player out of position, who looked exposed defensively and poor going forward.

Playing players out of position is another concern. Hughes is arguably our best central midfielder and best player at the club - what does Levein do? Plays him out wide where his influence on the game is limited.

Johansson, Kisnorbo, Hamill, Hammond and Sylla have all been played out of position at some point during this season. We also had it with McCarthy last season at right back. To get the best out of our players, we need to play them in their rightful positions. Until we do this, we'll keep witnessing disjointed performances. I understand with injuries and suspensions Levein will need certain players to deputise in different positions from time to time, but we almost have a full squad available to choose from at the moment.

Tactics are also a concern. We're playing a weak side at home and we don't play with any width at all. We struggled to break down Brighton because we had no outlets out wide stretch their back 4, unlike them who had a very pacey forward line and caused us problems. Even when Sylla came on, we still only had one side which provided us with width, which restricted our options. I understand Levein asks Tiatto to cut inside and get involved to add some steel in the centre, but it doesn't help the left back, especially as we keep changing them every game.

With the present tactics and inconsistency in the line ups, I can't see where the goals are going to come from. de Vries isn't seen as the main striker to get goals, so we're placing a lot of faith in the largely unproven duo of Hume and Hammond, who have a great deal of potential. At this moment in time, we need more than just potential – we need goals. We're always likely to concede from set pieces and commit silly mistakes with an unsettled line up, so we'll struggle for a while yet before things get better.

I would like to think Levein will soon recognise what is needed for us to progress results wise, because as it currently stands, we're experiencing relegation form. 5 wins out of the last (nearly) 30 games is simply not good enough. I know I'm including last season's stats, but it is alarming given the players Levein has had at his disposal. 2 wins in his first 11 games suggest we're taking last seasons form in to this.

I want to give him to the end of the season as he's looking to rebuild - however, he needs to start picking up points in crucial home games such as Brighton to avoid another potential relegation battle.

It's a question of where to drawn the line. If we continue to hover around the relegation zone for the next 4 or 5 months, do we accept this? Support for Levein (Irrespective of the need to provide him time) is dependent on what is happening now, not what could potentially happen a year down the line.

For now, we all need to support Levein and the team. Unfortunately, we have a number of fans that don't have the term 'patience' in their vocabulary and will expect instant results. What I and many Leicester fans are looking for is progress. As long as we see this in both performance and results wise, we'll be happy.

Changing manager now or over the next few weeks will not help us at all. Let's re-assess the situation at Christmas – if we’re still struggling and displaying signs of relegation form, then something will need to be done.

What this club needs more than anything is stability and consistency – let's hope Levein can deliver this. I’m more hopeful than expectant of any improvement at the moment though.

Posted

Don't get me wrong, I'm right behind Levein and desperately want him to succeed, but can you see us improving?

The current side hasn't been together very long and is still apparently 'gelling. However, the side will never gel effectively if Levein doesn't decide on a settled line up. Kisnorbo was the 5th different left back used this season, another player out of position, who looked exposed defensively and poor going forward.

Playing players out of position is another concern. Hughes is arguably our best central midfielder and best player at the club - what does Levein do? Plays him out wide where his influence on the game is limited.

Johansson, Kisnorbo, Hamill, Hammond and Sylla have all been played out of position at some point during this season. We also had it with McCarthy last season at right back. To get the best out of our players, we need to play them in their rightful positions. Until we do this, we'll keep witnessing disjointed performances. I understand with injuries and suspensions Levein will need certain players to deputise in different positions from time to time, but we almost have a full squad available to choose from at the moment.

Tactics are also a concern. We're playing a weak side at home and we don't play with any width at all. We struggled to break down Brighton because we had no outlets out wide stretch their back 4, unlike them who had a very pacey forward line and caused us problems. Even when Sylla came on, we still only had one side which provided us with width, which restricted our options. I understand Levein asks Tiatto to cut inside and get involved to add some steel in the centre, but it doesn't help the left back, especially as we keep changing them every game.

With the present tactics and inconsistency in the line ups, I can't see where the goals are going to come from. de Vries isn't seen as the main striker to get goals, so we're placing a lot of faith in the largely unproven duo of Hume and Hammond, who have a great deal of potential. At this moment in time, we need more than just potential – we need goals. We're always likely to concede from set pieces and commit silly mistakes with an unsettled line up, so we'll struggle for a while yet before things get better.

I would like to think Levein will soon recognise what is needed for us to progress results wise, because as it currently stands, we're experiencing relegation form. 5 wins out of the last (nearly) 30 games is simply not good enough. I know I'm including last season's stats, but it is alarming given the players Levein has had at his disposal. 2 wins in his first 11 games suggest we're taking last seasons form in to this.

I want to give him to the end of the season as he's looking to rebuild - however, he needs to start picking up points in crucial home games such as Brighton to avoid another potential relegation battle.

It's a question of where to drawn the line. If we continue to hover around the relegation zone for the next 4 or 5 months, do we accept this? Support for Levein (Irrespective of the need to provide him time) is dependent on what is happening now, not what could potentially happen a year down the line.

For now, we all need to support Levein and the team. Unfortunately, we have a number of fans that don't have the term 'patience' in their vocabulary and will expect instant results. What I and many Leicester fans are looking for is progress. As long as we see this in both performance and results wise, we'll be happy.

Changing manager now or over the next few weeks will not help us at all. Let's re-assess the situation at Christmas – if we’re still struggling and displaying signs of relegation form, then something will need to be done.

What this club needs more than anything is stability and consistency – let's hope Levein can deliver this. I’m more hopeful than expectant of any improvement at the moment though.

That's such a strong post that I honestly think this needs sending to Craig Levein. Don't be scared Scowy send it in, he needs to hear things like this and there's nothing there that should offend him. Especially as it was written at nearly 2am!!!

Get it sent in, I found that post remarkable and I agree with every word. That posts touches on everything the fans are feeling and epxressed in a way that a manager should be able to relate and understand without any kind of abuse that would get their back up.

Send it in. Levein will listen, he took time to read my letter I once sent him regarding Stearman, Sheehan, Wesolowski and Dawson and an article happened to appear in the mercury regarding the youngsters just a few weeks later, coincidence? Possibly, but i'd like to think Levein listened.

Posted

I managed to read it all Scoweh. Some cracking points in there chum and as Ric said, try sending it to the club, whether it be to CL or TD etc.

Try to get it published aswell, I'm sure numerous sites would want an article of that quality.

Posted

Yeah good post scowy.

I nearly died though when the team was being announced as you i want CL to suceed but not learning from his mistakes will cost him starting with no natural wingers again last night was dreadful you could see what a difference was made when sylla came on he opened up a very poor Brighton side with ease. The football was a slight improvement on saturday but like you say it was extremely frustrating.

Posted

For the first time I am starting to question Levein's long term value at the club anyway.

Even if we start to get some results - and there's no sign of it - there is no evidence it is ever going to be entertaining and therefore is he really what City want.

I say that having opted for Mike Newell and Glen Hoddle as our preferred choice as manager - two guys with an attacking philosophy - but I still decided to support Levein as the eventual choice because it was the least I could do for a man with a decent record.

I now look at the progress made by Luton and Wolves and I look at Leicester, not just at the results which would be appalling if they were the achievements of a member of this forum pulled out to manage City at random. No, I look also at the team's performance, the style of play the progress being made by these players of obvious potential.

It makes deprsssing viewing.

Levein's great strength has been cutting the wage bill, bringing in promising young players and elevating members of the Academy. Fine, love it. But what has happened.

Are the players developing? No. And it is not the players fault. It is Levein's fault and the coaches.

Young players of all things need confidence - and the acceptance they they will make the odd mistake.

Sheehan (as I've said loud and clear lots of times) is by FAR our best left back and his potential is outstanding. But what happens? He plays either well or quite well. Gets dropped. Result. We lose cohesion, we lose our attacking options down the left flank. He gets nothing to boost his confidence nor more experience to make him a still better player.

Hammond another who is obviously a talented man but still unsure of himself has been playing quite well but crying out for a goal. He gets one. Gets left out of the side. And for what. For a great little player in Hume who I've said, again loud and clear, is not a front running striker but a man who can fit in the hole, aid the attack and both sides of the pitch, create things and make forward runs to affect a strike on goal.

As a front two striker much of this is negated and we lose Hammond's potential potency too.

For the second time running, having not learned his lesson the first time, Levein fields two rottweilers in midfield and sacrifices creativity and strike power. He also loses Sheehan's dead ball kicking capability. Why?.

For Heaven's sake why. Where is the logic in any of these things?.

Even his substitutions are, as usual, ridiculous. Even if he argues Hammond fares better coming on as substitute and using his pace against tired defenders why give the guy 10 minutes only? Half an hour minimum might be effective although I have played all three front men (MDV, Hammond and Hume in the hole) as I said beforehand.

Then, where on earth does Dion come in? His presence immediately encourages the opposite of what we want which is passing to feet. With Dion there everything is hoisted to him for knock ons. Result. Predictable, easily dealt-with attacks and a lot of frustration for the ball-players.

From six potentially easyish points we have collected one (and were lucky to do that cos how Brighton missed their open goal God only knows).

Our goals record one in the last 360-plus minutes, our general results record, our style of play are ALL worse than dismal. Gates are falling and credibility is being lost.

He's left Stearman out too many times already (and would have continued to do so but for Maybury's suspension), he leaves Hammond out and now he's leaving Sheehan out so that is hardly developing youth players. In fact it is doing NOTHING to build what they most need which is confidence and self-belief.

He is far too defensive minded even at home. In fact, despite his promises of push-on football, I would argue he's the most defensive manager we've had at Leicester.

I would like someone with an attacking philosophy.

Someone who not only backs and develops our youngsters but shows his belief in them and shows he has the ability to get the best out of them.

I would like someone who develops a specific but adaptable system of play.

And I would like someone who picks an essentially settled side because he knows what he wants to do.

I would like someone with the sense to buy or borrow a proper centre-forward.

I would like someone who never plays two rottweeilers in midfield.

I would finally like a manager who will always play with width.

I would like a manager who understands the value of inventing, practicing and perfecting dead-ball ploys and shows the ability to get some end product.

I would like a man so good at man motivation that his players perform above rather than below their obvious capabilities.

I would like a manager who truly inspires his young players and makes them believe they can run through brick walls.

I would like a manager who can be objective in his decision making - a man who makes his selections imply on what he wants to achieve rather than in a way that simply accomodates his favourites.

I don't think we've got any of that which means Leicester City are carrying too much in the debit account every time we go on the field.

We have no direction, no imagination, no belief, few good results and very few points.

People ask do we on the forum serioously believe we would do any better. I will say this. I could not imagine in my worst nightmare doing any worse.

Our team has no sense of direction, no pattern, no cohesion, no apparent self-belief, virtually no goals and not many points. We are not entertaining, exciting, adventuous, inventive or, indeed, anything which would endear ourselves to peoples hearts.

The team is a disgrace to Leicester City and not because of the players but because of the manager and his staff cos they decide the strategy and develop the skills required to play it.

What's worse is that Levein must be too arrogant or too blinkered to listen to the many, many people who have followed Leicester through thick and thin and can see the deficiencies and what to do about them as clearly as they could see a forest fire.

These people are not unreasonable. They understand that Leicester is in a transition period and will misfire on occasions. They just want something to warm to. The evidence that things are improving and improving in the right direction and, for me, in the true traditions of this club.

Attacking football led to Leicester's best era. Attacking football is propelling Sheffield United and Wolves back towards the Premiership as it has already done for West Ham. Do the directors need any more evidence of what is required at Leicester? The fact that such an approach would also encouage the fans to return would be a much-needed bonus.

I have pleaded with Levein to heed my words. Now I'm telling the directors. Be strong, be decisive and if Levein won't follow the strategy I've outlined then get someone who will.

Posted

For the first time I am starting to question Levein's long term value at the club anyway.

Even if we start to get some results - and there's no sign of it - there is no evidence it is ever going to be entertaining and therefore is he really what City want.

I say that having opted for Mike Newell and Glen Hoddle as our preferred choice as manager - two guys with an attacking philosophy - but I still decided to support Levein as the eventual choice because it was the least I could do for a man with a decent record.

I now look at the progress made by Luton and Wolves and I look at Leicester, not just at the results which would be appalling if they were the achievements of a member of this forum pulled out to manage City at random. No, I look also at the team's performance, the style of play the progress being made by these players of obvious potential.

It makes deprsssing viewing.

Levein's great strength has been cutting the wage bill, bringing in promising young players and elevating members of the Academy. Fine, love it. But what has happened.

Are the players developing? No. And it is not the players fault. It is Levein's fault and the coaches.

Young players of all things need confidence - and the acceptance they they will make the odd mistake.

Sheehan (as I've said loud and clear lots of times) is by FAR our best left back and his potential is outstanding. But what happens? He plays either well or quite well. Gets dropped. Result. We lose conhesion, we lose our attacking options down the left flan. He gets nothing to boost his confidence nor more experience to make him a still better player.

Hammond another who is obviously a talented man but still unsure of himself has been playing quite well but crying out for a goal. He gets one. Gets left out of the side. And for what. For a great little player in Hume who I've said, again loud and clear, is not a front running striker but a man who can fit in the hole, aid the attack and both sides of the pitch, create things and make forward runs to affect a strike on goal.

As a front two striker much of this is negated and we lose Hammond's potential potency too.

For the second time running, having not learned his lesson the first time, Levein fields two rottweilers in midfield and sacrifices creativity and strike power. He also loses Sheehan's dead ball kicking capability. Why.

For Heaven's sake why. Where is the logic in any of these things.

Even his substitutions are, as usual, ridiculous. Even if he argues Hammond fares better coming on as substitute and using his pace against tired defenders why give the guy 10 minutes only? Half an hour minimum might be effective although I have played all three front men (MDV, Hammond and Hume in the hole) as I said beforehand.

Then, where on earth does Dion come in? His presence immediately encourages the opposite of what we want which is passing to feet. With Dion there everything is hoisted to him for knock ons. Result. Predictable, easily dealt-with attacks and a lot of frustration for the ball-players.

From six potentially easyish points we have collected one (and were lucky to do that cos how Brighton missed their open goal God only knows).

Our goals record one in the last 360-plus minutes, our general results record, our style of play are ALL worse than dismal. Gates are falling and credibility is being lost.

He's left Stearman out too many times already (and would have continued to do so but for Maybury's suspension), he leaves Hammond out and now he's leaving Sheehan out so that is hardly developing youth players. In fact it is doing NOTHING to build what they most need which is confidence and self-belief.

He is far too defensive minded even at home. In fact, despite his promises of push-on football, I would argue he's the most defensive manager we've had at Leicester.

I would like someone with an attacking philosophy.

Someone who not only backs and develops our youngsters but shows his belief in them and shows he has the ability to get the best out of them.

I would like someone who develops a specific but adaptable system of play.

And I would like someone who picks an essentially settled side because he knows what he wants to do.

I would like someone with the sense to buy or borrow a proper centre-forward.

I would like someone who never plays two Rottweeilers in midfield.

I would finally like a manager who will always play with width.

I would like a manager who understands the value of inventing, practising and perfecting dead-ball ploys and shows the ability to get some end product.

I would like a man so good at man motivation that his players perform above rather than below their obvious capabilities.

I would like a manager who truly inspires his young players and makes them believe they can run through brick walls.

I would like a manager who can be objective in his decision making - a man who makes his selections imply on what he wants to achieve rather than in a way that simply accomodates his favourites.

I don't think we've got any of that which means Leicester City are carrying too much in the debit account every time we go on the field.

We have no direction, no imagination, no belief, no result and very few points.

People ask do we on the forum serioously believe we would do any better. I will say this. I could not imagine in my worst nightmare doing any worse.

Our team has no sense of direction, no pattern, no cohesion, no apparent self-belief, virtually no goals and not many points. We are not entertaining, exciting, adventuous, inventive or, indeed, anything which would endear them to peoples hearts.

The team is a disgrace to Leicester City and not because of the players but because of the manager and his staff.

What's worse is that Levein must be too arrogant or too blinkered to listen to the many, many people who have followed Leicester through thick and thin and can see the deficiencies and what to do about them as clearly as they could see a forest fire.

These people are not unreasonable. They understand that Leicester is in a transition period and will misfire on occasions. They just want something to warm to. The evidence that things are improving and improving in the right direction and, for me, in the true traditions of this club.

Attacking football led to Leicester's best era. Attacking football is propelling Sheffield United and Wolves back towards the Premiership as it has already done for West Ham. Do the directors need any more evidence of what is required at Leicester? The fact that such an approach would also encouage the fans to return would be a much-needed bonus.

I have pleaded with Levein to heed my words. Now I'm telling the directors. Be strong, be decisive and if Levein won't follow the strategy I've outlined then get someone who will.

Mind blowing.

Posted

Honestly, these posts should really be sent to Levein, I know he is the manager etc and he thinks he knows what he's doing but these are some amazing points and he needs to hear them. I sent a letter to MON back when he was leaving for Celtic and got a reply (all be it from the secretary no doubt) but im sure they do read these things and he needs to hear this!

Posted

It has become obvious that Levein is a stubborn, tactically naive man.

I agree that if it's not broken, don't fix it, but I'm also an advocate of the 'if it IS broken... fu cking well do something about it' approach.

I'm angry, but also completely apathetic because I know that it won't get better. You can tell that Levein believes he is doing right as he fails to see the problems, preferring to blame bad luck/dismissals/poor finishing etc..

He's done wonders off the field for a club that was rotten to the core, but on the pitch, he's awful.

Posted

Scowy/Thracian

Please please send them in, I'm urging you to - I really think he should read these. They're not very offensive and I dont think you are the only ones who would be intrigued about what his responses would be to these excellent points;

Craig Levein

Leicester City Football Club

The Walkers Stadium

Filbert Way

Leicester

LE2 7FL

Posted

Scowy/Thracian

Please please send them in, I'm urging you to - I really think he should read these. They're not very offensive and I dont think you are the only ones who would be intrigued about what his responses would be to these excellent points;

Craig Levein

Leicester City Football Club

The Walkers Stadium

Filbert Way

Leicester

LE2 7FL

Anyone wishing to drop this into the City is welcome. It's only written with the best interests of our club at heart and I hope that Levein is man enough to adapt/adjust his thinking to the requirements of this particular club, to the requirements of three-points-for-a-win football, and to the needs of our fans who are entitled to be properly entertained.

Posted

Don't get me wrong, I'm right behind Levein and desperately want him to succeed, but can you see us improving?

The current side hasn't been together very long and is still apparently 'gelling. However, the side will never gel effectively if Levein doesn't decide on a settled line up. Kisnorbo was the 5th different left back used this season, another player out of position, who looked exposed defensively and poor going forward.

Playing players out of position is another concern. Hughes is arguably our best central midfielder and best player at the club - what does Levein do? Plays him out wide where his influence on the game is limited.

Johansson, Kisnorbo, Hamill, Hammond and Sylla have all been played out of position at some point during this season. We also had it with McCarthy last season at right back. To get the best out of our players, we need to play them in their rightful positions. Until we do this, we'll keep witnessing disjointed performances. I understand with injuries and suspensions Levein will need certain players to deputise in different positions from time to time, but we almost have a full squad available to choose from at the moment.

Tactics are also a concern. We're playing a weak side at home and we don't play with any width at all. We struggled to break down Brighton because we had no outlets out wide stretch their back 4, unlike them who had a very pacey forward line and caused us problems. Even when Sylla came on, we still only had one side which provided us with width, which restricted our options. I understand Levein asks Tiatto to cut inside and get involved to add some steel in the centre, but it doesn't help the left back, especially as we keep changing them every game.

With the present tactics and inconsistency in the line ups, I can't see where the goals are going to come from. de Vries isn't seen as the main striker to get goals, so we're placing a lot of faith in the largely unproven duo of Hume and Hammond, who have a great deal of potential. At this moment in time, we need more than just potential – we need goals. We're always likely to concede from set pieces and commit silly mistakes with an unsettled line up, so we'll struggle for a while yet before things get better.

I would like to think Levein will soon recognise what is needed for us to progress results wise, because as it currently stands, we're experiencing relegation form. 5 wins out of the last (nearly) 30 games is simply not good enough. I know I'm including last season's stats, but it is alarming given the players Levein has had at his disposal. 2 wins in his first 11 games suggest we're taking last seasons form in to this.

I want to give him to the end of the season as he's looking to rebuild - however, he needs to start picking up points in crucial home games such as Brighton to avoid another potential relegation battle.

It's a question of where to drawn the line. If we continue to hover around the relegation zone for the next 4 or 5 months, do we accept this? Support for Levein (Irrespective of the need to provide him time) is dependent on what is happening now, not what could potentially happen a year down the line.

For now, we all need to support Levein and the team. Unfortunately, we have a number of fans that don't have the term 'patience' in their vocabulary and will expect instant results. What I and many Leicester fans are looking for is progress. As long as we see this in both performance and results wise, we'll be happy.

Changing manager now or over the next few weeks will not help us at all. Let's re-assess the situation at Christmas – if we’re still struggling and displaying signs of relegation form, then something will need to be done.

What this club needs more than anything is stability and consistency – let's hope Levein can deliver this. I’m more hopeful than expectant of any improvement at the moment though.

Scowy, you must back Levein remember? What's going on guys? "It's a rebuilding process," "We must give him time!"

Posted

Don't get me wrong, I'm right behind Levein and desperately want him to succeed, but can you see us improving?

The current side hasn't been together very long and is still apparently 'gelling. However, the side will never gel effectively if Levein doesn't decide on a settled line up. Kisnorbo was the 5th different left back used this season, another player out of position, who looked exposed defensively and poor going forward.

Playing players out of position is another concern. Hughes is arguably our best central midfielder and best player at the club - what does Levein do? Plays him out wide where his influence on the game is limited.

Johansson, Kisnorbo, Hamill, Hammond and Sylla have all been played out of position at some point during this season. We also had it with McCarthy last season at right back. To get the best out of our players, we need to play them in their rightful positions. Until we do this, we'll keep witnessing disjointed performances. I understand with injuries and suspensions Levein will need certain players to deputise in different positions from time to time, but we almost have a full squad available to choose from at the moment.

Tactics are also a concern. We're playing a weak side at home and we don't play with any width at all. We struggled to break down Brighton because we had no outlets out wide stretch their back 4, unlike them who had a very pacey forward line and caused us problems. Even when Sylla came on, we still only had one side which provided us with width, which restricted our options. I understand Levein asks Tiatto to cut inside and get involved to add some steel in the centre, but it doesn't help the left back, especially as we keep changing them every game.

With the present tactics and inconsistency in the line ups, I can't see where the goals are going to come from. de Vries isn't seen as the main striker to get goals, so we're placing a lot of faith in the largely unproven duo of Hume and Hammond, who have a great deal of potential. At this moment in time, we need more than just potential – we need goals. We're always likely to concede from set pieces and commit silly mistakes with an unsettled line up, so we'll struggle for a while yet before things get better.

I would like to think Levein will soon recognise what is needed for us to progress results wise, because as it currently stands, we're experiencing relegation form. 5 wins out of the last (nearly) 30 games is simply not good enough. I know I'm including last season's stats, but it is alarming given the players Levein has had at his disposal. 2 wins in his first 11 games suggest we're taking last seasons form in to this.

I want to give him to the end of the season as he's looking to rebuild - however, he needs to start picking up points in crucial home games such as Brighton to avoid another potential relegation battle.

It's a question of where to drawn the line. If we continue to hover around the relegation zone for the next 4 or 5 months, do we accept this? Support for Levein (Irrespective of the need to provide him time) is dependent on what is happening now, not what could potentially happen a year down the line.

For now, we all need to support Levein and the team. Unfortunately, we have a number of fans that don't have the term 'patience' in their vocabulary and will expect instant results. What I and many Leicester fans are looking for is progress. As long as we see this in both performance and results wise, we'll be happy.

Changing manager now or over the next few weeks will not help us at all. Let's re-assess the situation at Christmas – if we’re still struggling and displaying signs of relegation form, then something will need to be done.

What this club needs more than anything is stability and consistency – let's hope Levein can deliver this. I’m more hopeful than expectant of any improvement at the moment though.

Tell me if i'm mistaken but listening to the game last night it seemed like the only thing we did wrong was not score.

I don't know i only listened to it.

If this is the case then it does seem we are going in the right direction,if i am wrong then i apologise and feel free to tell me to shut the f*** up! :whistle:

Posted

Tell me if i'm mistaken but listening to the game last night it seemed like the only thing we did wrong was not score.

I don't know i only listened to it.

If this is the case then it does seem we are going in the right direction,if i am wrong then i apologise and feel free to tell me to shut the f*** up! :whistle:

You can't win by not scoring and it doesn't help you score if you play too many defensive-minded players.

If Levein shows willing to stop being negative (and that means playing positive defenders too) then I would prefer him to stay. If not ...

Posted
Scowy, you must back Levein remember? What's going on guys? "It's a rebuilding process," "We must give him time!"

And where have I detracted from that point of view? The point I'm making (If you actually bothered to read my post in full, shocking given that you're allegedly a journalist) is that while Levein needs time to improve the team, if we can't see any signs of progress, or fall in to a relegation battle in the months ahead, questions will need to be asked and Levein will come under pressure to justify what he's doing.

Tell me if i'm mistaken but listening to the game last night it seemed like the only thing we did wrong was not score.

I don't know i only listened to it.

If this is the case then it does seem we are going in the right direction,if i am wrong then i apologise and feel free to tell me to shut the f*** up!

Shut the F*** up. :o;)

We created a few chances, but by no means dominated the game. Brighton can consider themselves unlucky not to have gone away with three points after missing a glorious chance near the end. We were under the cosh a little in the first half, and although the second half saw an improvement, we lacked any width and genuine pace to break though. We only started looking dangerous when Sylla and Hammond both arrived on the scene.

Thanks for all your feedback on that post. :thumbup: I was a little frustrated last night and I felt I needed to get it off my chest. Not sure Levein would bother reading this to be honest - maybe his secretary would glance over it.

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For the first time I am starting to question Levein's long term value at the club anyway.

Even if we start to get some results - and there's no sign of it - there is no evidence it is ever going to be entertaining and therefore is he really what City want.

I say that having opted for Mike Newell and Glen Hoddle as our preferred choice as manager - two guys with an attacking philosophy - but I still decided to support Levein as the eventual choice because it was the least I could do for a man with a decent record.

I now look at the progress made by Luton and Wolves and I look at Leicester, not just at the results which would be appalling if they were the achievements of a member of this forum pulled out to manage City at random. No, I look also at the team's performance, the style of play the progress being made by these players of obvious potential.

It makes deprsssing viewing.

Levein's great strength has been cutting the wage bill, bringing in promising young players and elevating members of the Academy. Fine, love it. But what has happened.

Are the players developing? No. And it is not the players fault. It is Levein's fault and the coaches.

Young players of all things need confidence - and the acceptance they they will make the odd mistake.

Sheehan (as I've said loud and clear lots of times) is by FAR our best left back and his potential is outstanding. But what happens? He plays either well or quite well. Gets dropped. Result. We lose cohesion, we lose our attacking options down the left flank. He gets nothing to boost his confidence nor more experience to make him a still better player.

Hammond another who is obviously a talented man but still unsure of himself has been playing quite well but crying out for a goal. He gets one. Gets left out of the side. And for what. For a great little player in Hume who I've said, again loud and clear, is not a front running striker but a man who can fit in the hole, aid the attack and both sides of the pitch, create things and make forward runs to affect a strike on goal.

As a front two striker much of this is negated and we lose Hammond's potential potency too.

For the second time running, having not learned his lesson the first time, Levein fields two rottweilers in midfield and sacrifices creativity and strike power. He also loses Sheehan's dead ball kicking capability. Why?.

For Heaven's sake why. Where is the logic in any of these things?.

Even his substitutions are, as usual, ridiculous. Even if he argues Hammond fares better coming on as substitute and using his pace against tired defenders why give the guy 10 minutes only? Half an hour minimum might be effective although I have played all three front men (MDV, Hammond and Hume in the hole) as I said beforehand.

Then, where on earth does Dion come in? His presence immediately encourages the opposite of what we want which is passing to feet. With Dion there everything is hoisted to him for knock ons. Result. Predictable, easily dealt-with attacks and a lot of frustration for the ball-players.

From six potentially easyish points we have collected one (and were lucky to do that cos how Brighton missed their open goal God only knows).

Our goals record one in the last 360-plus minutes, our general results record, our style of play are ALL worse than dismal. Gates are falling and credibility is being lost.

He's left Stearman out too many times already (and would have continued to do so but for Maybury's suspension), he leaves Hammond out and now he's leaving Sheehan out so that is hardly developing youth players. In fact it is doing NOTHING to build what they most need which is confidence and self-belief.

He is far too defensive minded even at home. In fact, despite his promises of push-on football, I would argue he's the most defensive manager we've had at Leicester.

I would like someone with an attacking philosophy.

Someone who not only backs and develops our youngsters but shows his belief in them and shows he has the ability to get the best out of them.

I would like someone who develops a specific but adaptable system of play.

And I would like someone who picks an essentially settled side because he knows what he wants to do.

I would like someone with the sense to buy or borrow a proper centre-forward.

I would like someone who never plays two rottweeilers in midfield.

I would finally like a manager who will always play with width.

I would like a manager who understands the value of inventing, practicing and perfecting dead-ball ploys and shows the ability to get some end product.

I would like a man so good at man motivation that his players perform above rather than below their obvious capabilities.

I would like a manager who truly inspires his young players and makes them believe they can run through brick walls.

I would like a manager who can be objective in his decision making - a man who makes his selections imply on what he wants to achieve rather than in a way that simply accomodates his favourites.

I don't think we've got any of that which means Leicester City are carrying too much in the debit account every time we go on the field.

We have no direction, no imagination, no belief, few good results and very few points.

People ask do we on the forum serioously believe we would do any better. I will say this. I could not imagine in my worst nightmare doing any worse.

Our team has no sense of direction, no pattern, no cohesion, no apparent self-belief, virtually no goals and not many points. We are not entertaining, exciting, adventuous, inventive or, indeed, anything which would endear ourselves to peoples hearts.

The team is a disgrace to Leicester City and not because of the players but because of the manager and his staff cos they decide the strategy and develop the skills required to play it.

What's worse is that Levein must be too arrogant or too blinkered to listen to the many, many people who have followed Leicester through thick and thin and can see the deficiencies and what to do about them as clearly as they could see a forest fire.

These people are not unreasonable. They understand that Leicester is in a transition period and will misfire on occasions. They just want something to warm to. The evidence that things are improving and improving in the right direction and, for me, in the true traditions of this club.

Attacking football led to Leicester's best era. Attacking football is propelling Sheffield United and Wolves back towards the Premiership as it has already done for West Ham. Do the directors need any more evidence of what is required at Leicester? The fact that such an approach would also encouage the fans to return would be a much-needed bonus.

I have pleaded with Levein to heed my words. Now I'm telling the directors. Be strong, be decisive and if Levein won't follow the strategy I've outlined then get someone who will.

Thracian, how can you change your position so quickly? Only a couple of days ago you were telling me he is one of the BEST (your capitalisations, not mine) managers we've ever had. Though now you have changed your tune. I am baffled...

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And where have I detracted from that point of view? The point I'm making (If you actually bothered to read my post in full, shocking given that you're allegedly a journalist) is that while Levein needs time to improve the team, if we can't see any signs of progress, or fall in to a relegation battle in the months ahead, questions will need to be asked and Levein will come under pressure to justify what he's doing.

Shut the F*** up. :o;)

We created a few chances, but by no means dominated the game. Brighton can consider themselves unlucky not to have gone away with three points after missing a glorious chance near the end. We were under the cosh a little in the first half, and although the second half saw an improvement, we lacked any width and genuine pace to break though. We only started looking dangerous when Sylla and Hammond both arrived on the scene.

Thanks for all your feedback on that post. :thumbup: I was a little frustrated last night and I felt I needed to get it off my chest. Not sure Levein would bother reading this to be honest - maybe his secretary would glance over it.

OK Scowy I apoligise, I just felt that you're support had wavered a bit since you last called me a tw*t (or whatever - it's remarkable how the abuse blends together)

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And where have I detracted from that point of view? The point I'm making (If you actually bothered to read my post in full, shocking given that you're allegedly a journalist) is that while Levein needs time to improve the team, if we can't see any signs of progress, or fall in to a relegation battle in the months ahead, questions will need to be asked and Levein will come under pressure to justify what he's doing.

Shut the F*** up. :o;)

We created a few chances, but by no means dominated the game. Brighton can consider themselves unlucky not to have gone away with three points after missing a glorious chance near the end. We were under the cosh a little in the first half, and although the second half saw an improvement, we lacked any width and genuine pace to break though. We only started looking dangerous when Sylla and Hammond both arrived on the scene.

Thanks for all your feedback on that post. :thumbup: I was a little frustrated last night and I felt I needed to get it off my chest. Not sure Levein would bother reading this to be honest - maybe his secretary would glance over it.

There's always one :cry::scarf::):thumbup:

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I swear this ESPN bloke is just a wind up merchant how can he Analyse two excellent posts by saying that there both anti CL, ever heard of constructive critiscm.

Look, Scowy I'm going on about too much, but look at the difference between Thracian posts from last week to this and how he attacked me for questioning wheter Levein was the right man for the job. And by the way, they are eloquent enough to express there own retorts.

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Look, Scowy I'm going on about too much, but look at the difference between Thracian posts from last week to this and how he attacked me for questioning wheter Levein was the right man for the job. And by the way, they are eloquent enough to express there own retorts.

Meant not going on about much

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