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Both tipped to go straight back up, Ipswich especially have a solid manager and some great coaches and kept hold of some great players too, both has brought in decent players and kept hold of players that got them promoted two years ago. I would say Ipswich have done a lot more than us by actually have an experienced manager and decent backing from their board. That enough for you for me to have an opinion or would you like some more ?

Southampton forum is very similar to ours. A lot want Still out but a lot feel the problems are a lot deeper than the manager. Ipswich as you suggest fans mainly feel the club is going through a transition and it will take time. Currently looks like it will be a season where there wont be any of the relegated teams promoted for a change.

I think Southampton and especially Ipswich's starts are more surprising then ours.

Winks James Ramsey Fatawu Ayew monga Defence - no idea as anyone who has played this season has been crap.

Any of us could have played his role tonight. Not sure he touched the ball.

Half some of they half as f me they only turn up for half their shift.

If he isn't injured then I am starting to think he isn't the right man for the job

Think I will watch the bake off instead

They have a few tough games coming up too. Should have stayed in the Conference League

problem is it has won teams titles and it is used world wide by some of the best teams in the world. It is a trend that i agree is killing the excitement. keeping the ball for the sake of keeping it. No one is daring with a pass (usually because teams over commit with their full backs and midfield leaving you vunerable to the counter (just like we have been for a few years now!) Low risk and in most cases low reward. Players are now trained to keep the ball rather than taking a risk / shot on. If there is nothing on turn around and start again. You only have to look at the amount of goals scored from outside of the box barely any compared to what they used to be.

Isn't playing

Page and Ayew

If Daka and BCR are in our first 11 then there is major issues

Might not bother tonight, horrid

Or vicar sets up husband he gets sent down, but in the meantime son kills barmaid and keeps a 'trophy' to give it a bit of a darker finish.

Yeah it was great until the last 20 mins. Obviously set up for another series which it really doesnt need. Had so many ways they could have neatly tied it up at the end.

People moaning about digital ID cards are moaning about it on social media that track, take your data and sell it on to the highest bidder. Signing an online petition (that asks for your details ) is just the cherry on the cake. If this was 20 / 30 years ago then I would be totally against it but Christ we are in a 'online' world that tracks your every move.

The right 15 signings.... But to be honest I like Sunderland. They work hard but there is a long way to go. Xhaka looks a great signing.

They were awful but created 4 massive chances and converted one. We didn't create anything that worried their keeper until the the 93rd minute and even then it wasn't going in. The quality of the league is massively papering over the cracks of a very poor start to the season. Not sure we have managed a quality 45 mins yet.

He did, and hurt himself in the process

Hate to say it but he isn't good enough. A lot bounces off him but having Faes Infront on your would make the best keeper look average.

Danny Ward masterclass incoming

And that was Vestergaard

Should have been 4-0 to them really. If they could finish. Just shows how bad the league really is.

Because he reacted like a little bitch