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It wouldn't be so bad if we were getting these latest hammerings under Martin in the Prem. but these are happening to us in a division we should be walking ffs! Totally the wrong appointment for this club (and I dare say for any other club in any division in England now!).

If we lose that (let alone in the same manner as we did against Oxford and Peterboro'), then thee is no option but to get rid!

I still find it darkly amusing that this thread was started around the time he was rumoured to be being appointed or thereabouts - yet here we are nearly on page 172 by early October, the season's started horrendously (far worse than I'd anticipated at any rate) and he's stiil not gone!

I think he's decent too, however it seriously makes you wonder how BDCR is anywhere near the squad, let alone starting games up front with Riis - yet Harry Howell and Braybrooke were on the bench!

I said after the Oxford home defeat debacle that the Peterborough game would be crunch time for RM if we weren't at least in the play offs frame by then. The fact that we're now 17th and look like dropping further if we keep up performances like today's means that despite what you say then he surely can't still be in the hot seat v Donny next weekend!!?!

Yet we go and beat top of the league Plymouth (very fortuitously I hasten to add) and win away at a decent Stockport side! However that's no good if you're getting heavily turned over by a team who came down with us the other week and likewise today against a side with only one win under their belt up to today though, R.Savage 'new bounce' or not! The only logical change for me is to payh off RM and get a proven manager in at this level in D.Challinor but would he want to come??

Probably made his money and now doing it for the love of the club, whereas Summerbee and McKinlay did it for their fitness and to then try to get their playing careers back on track I sense!

I think it was something to do with us being in administration possibly (2002-03 promotion season under Micky Adams), when Summerbee and McKinlay played for us that season for nowt! Rare at any time for players to do that, you hear of them training with teams but not actually getting game time!

That would be unheard of now!

Has his Auntie entered this forum post yet?!

Yes, I think he needs to follow in Pearson's exact footsteps when we were last in this division by winning it (or promotion as the bare minimum) and then finish in the top 6 in the Championship next season re the play offs, also like Pearson did (Kermorgant-gate!). For now though then anything less than promotion will not win any fans over and it will be doubtful if he'll be kept on if we miss out on even that..

As a previous poster said the attendances for yesterday's tin pot FLT competition at home were far superior the last time we were in League One - as many as 8046 attended v Lincoln in the FL Trophy home tie KO system in 2008-09! No doubt yesterday's sub 1.1K was probably indicative of it being an under 21s team as the opposition mind - on top of the dramatic fall from grace over the past 5 years re general crowd disillusionment....re the bigger picture!

I thought he was having a season out of the game for personal reasons (a break from the game) anyway....

Yes, especially with the length of some of those contracts handed out lately, like four years for Riis, even though that was probably the only way we were going to get him from Bristol! Similar for Cullen and Burns too I think!

Indeed, re "our way" last season you mention (presumably the fans hounding out Cifuentes in January?). I wonder if we'd have stayed up (obv. still with the points deduction), had he stayed on until the end of the season? He was dogshit but we might have just squeaked it and Rowett was unable to turn it around of course. I really don't have a clue how this season will end, whether or not Martin will still be here at Christmas - but hopefully not like last season's end! - while we probably need to get promoted at the first attempt to avoid administration.

Even if things carry on in the unimpressive way that they are then no way will he be gone anytime before Christmas now in my reckoning!

That speaks volumes I guess!

It's definitely like his time at Rangers all over again for sure!!

Yes, I haven't really been observing Ballard there but Tolaj doesn't exactly look like he's hit the ground running there yet re seeing the highlights of Saturday's game, even if early days, whereas Riis has here, albeit in a league lower. If he's instrumental in getting us out of this league at the first attempt then Bristol's loss in our gain! I think he was their second lead scorer last season as well, which although I appreciate he appears to have made way for the two new signings, it still makes it strange why he left and all the more surprising with him droppong down a level, despite our improved contract on offer here compared to Bristol's too I guess!

Amazed he left Bristol City for us a league lower and in our predicamnet but I think it was because we were offering him a 4 year contract, they weren't.......

Nearly everybody outside of the club from pundits to fans (let alone most of the fans in it!), are now saying his possession based football is too demanding for our players who aren't suited to playing it quite simply! I think it's already sh*t or bust time for him at Stockport tomorrow and if Martin carries on trying to play his way there then I think it could be another miserable afternoon.....

Julian Joachim was the original JJ star of course!

I boldy predicted that if we are where we are now by the Peterborough game (October 10th), then he'll be gone after that.

Indeed, his much lauded 24 unbeaten run at Saints in 2023-24 was due to his having technically better players to play "his way", in League One it won't cut it though as Saturday's hammering by Oxford clearly showed - abd as has been strongly evident in the other games so far too, while we got lucky against Plymouth!

Not sure, he might have left mutually but I'm sure he'd be an easy option to give it to as the poster said.