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Now that's what I call a really low bar to set! Blimey, how we've just fallen off a cliff! Were the Derby team in 2008 under Paul Jewell this bad I wonder?! Points wise they were worse obviously but surely they played better stuff than us?? I'd even say the same towards Southampton this season despite somehow being 7 points worse off than us still!

If we thought the last game of the season under Puel's tenure in 2018 re the home defeat to West Ham was bad then I dread to think how many empty seats there will be at the end of this season for the final home game v Ipswich - at the start of the game, let alone it's end! On paper you'd have preyed we had them and Saints at home as the final two home games of the season but now we may as well have had Liverpool and Arsenal!!

Yes, I fear that is what is most likely to happen as things presently stand. He appears to be extraordinarily calm in post match interviews, all things considered and not at all flustered orshowing signs of feeling any pressure, unless he's just a fine actor. Moreover if there's not even any press/media talk or a hint of his being sacked being banded about (like there very much should be after losing 14/15 and having not scored in the league since January 26th!), then like many are starting to fear then it looks like he's going to be judged on next season now in the Championship (his first full one) if he's retained, not on this supposed "inherited Cooper's mess" wretched one!!

I think the fact that we haven't scored a singular league goal since January, have lost 13 from the last 14 and the fact Ruud is still here makes even keeping Rodgers as long as we did look comparatively sensible now! Unbelievable. It must be either nobody else wants to come here to manage for the rest of the season and have a relegation on their CV (not even as an interim), or it would cost the club too much to sack him, while he won't just walk away and lose millions! What a mess.

...and the fact that we haven't scored a league goal since that fortuitous win over 'Spurs B' at the end of Janaury is staggering!!

We scored though, yay!!

Got it on my kitchen cupboard too, April Fools indeed lol!

5000-1?!

The sad thing is he probably wouldn't necessarily be on Top/Rudkin's radar at all, even though admittedly Andy King has been brought back as a coaching assistant. Have this board ever appointed a lower league manager before and not just 'a big name'? - no¬!

I still think Ruud is trying to get back to Man United in some way, shape or form and in some coaching capacity in the not too distant future and was hoping to build up his stock/managerial reputation whilst here as a stopgap and then go back there to prove his worth. However he's not done it a lot of good with his disastrous record here to date of course!!

Enzo had Something of a love in with Rosenior last season IIRC after we were unable to defeat them in the season, including the early season 0-1 loss to them of course and the fortuitously fought out 2-2 draw at their place. We could do worse than replace Ruud with Rosenior in the close season for sure....

Yes, while I agee that we will be no lower than say 6th come the end of next season in the Championship (and we won't "do a Luton"), then I don' think there's any guarantee at all that we will "storm it" again like last season under Enzo, in spite of selling existing players, parachute payments, etc! There's the threat of PSR related points deduction too of course while I suppose the QPR yardstick in the FA Cup is a false one (played out in dense fog that day too!) but with the players we may be able to bring in re a club our size in the Championship to (hopefully) improve matters then we certainly shouldn't be worried about League One possibility!

The most depressing thing compared to this time ten years ago is that when we started the Great Escape under Pearson at the start of April we already had 22 points (and even with that thought we were probably doomed!), with 17 come the start of this April when we face Man City at the Etihad then there really is no hope this time, especially with this squad!!

I would say most definitely Rooney. I think he's found more his vocation as a pundit re his consecutive appearances as one on Match Of The Day Two now! I'd be amazed if anybody else here offered him an EFL job as manager now, while his stint in the USA probably didn't go too great either! Likewise Ruud after us - unless he starts to pull rabbits out of hats for the remainder of this season here, aka nigh on impossible! Or does likewise if he's kept on for next season in the Championship.

Jeez, I feel your pain! Those four points from West Ham and Brighton was the biggest false dawn ever re "those" two weeks! Followed by..........12 losses from 13 with a reasonable win in the cup against a Championship side and a lucky win against Spurs B team sandwiched in between!

I see your humorous point, lol! To be honest the only times I go to home matches now (since 2005 infact), are whenever a game coincides with when I visit my folks who still live in Northants - and if of course I can get a ticket by my contacts there! I average about four games maximum per season these days at home, usually one away - "lucky me" at present I suppose to only witness that amount! I'm unlikely to go to any of the remaining matches this season though and have only been twice in all to the KP this time around re the Forest and Man. City games Needless to say both defeats!

Not always easy if you live 250 miles away like me!

Yes, I was meaning when we go down and then stagnate in the Championship (or worse!). You see swathes of empty stands when you tune into the game highlights/goals at the likes of Barnsley, Cardiff, Swansea and many other teams who aren't pulling up trees - entire stands empty and crowds all congregated in certain sections only. By the time that happens though I don't know who'll be running the show...Top still probably, blind to it all lol.

As bad as we presently are I really do hope we don't see massive gaps in some of the stands (when watching on TV), like you do in a large amount of Championship and League One games...or indeed like the stadiums were during Covid!

A lot of it wasn't 100% Holloway's fault either and he was the last in line of poor appointments at the time. I heard horror stories about the McLintock era of the 70s too though.

This is by far and away the worst ever LCFC team I've witnessed. I think even an outsider (pundit) can see it like Troy Deeney! He said on MOTD2 last night that our recruitment has been chaotic/all over the place for this season (probably meaning two bad managerial appointments one after the other, plus the poor players we signed) and we need this international break just to get our ship in order for next season. Something along those lines anyway - and something of an understatement!

That's as maybe! Anyway as I thought then Watford were the last club at Prem level to hire three managers in their own right in a season and end up relegated - not once but twice! 2019-20 first off (including their final FT appointment of a certain Nigel Pearson!, then 2021-22 rinse and repeat, their last Premier league season to date. You're welcome!

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I don't think three managers in their own right in the Prem. for one team in a season has happened before - being as the Peter Taylor, Bassett/Adams and then Adams solo were more two and a half than three. That said I noted a previous poster said similar happened at Fulham one season. Watford too I suspect in the recent years when they were in the Prem. under their bat shit crazy Italian ownership. Meanwhile nobody over a certain age on here could forget when it happened to us in the Championship (Allen, Megson and Holloway) when under Mandaric of course and we sank to our lowest ever level. At least that did us a big favour in the long run though by bringing N.Pearson to the club!

Yes, unless they "sneak in" like you could on occasion at Filbert Street back in the day then they must surely have rich parents to enable their going to games!