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The trouble is football fans want immediate success these days and for things to click in no time, Cooper's come in and has a different playing style to Enzo, while also losing playermakers like KDH and others since of course ! Indeed MON in '96 found that with the fans too in that it didn't immediately click (the players struggled to adapt to his more direct playing style after McGhee left of course) and then had the crowd on his back! Fast forward to two and a half years later re that Spurs game in late '98, then the crowd were begging for him to stay and not leave for Leeds of course! I'm not suggesting the same thing is going to happen with Cooper if people feel that there's no real team cohesion or recognisable tactics and he's been leaving out the best players for certain positions - or indeed that he's then going to go on and have the success that MON did over the next few years if given time - but IMO he still needs more than 5 games that still sees us in 15th place (not cut adrift at the bottom!) and a game against a League Two side that was not lost after all!

Stranger things have happened! A win would be ace but I guess the majority on here would still be giving it "Cooper Out" at present, even after that!

I'm on the fence over Cooper at the moment and I think this is a bit 'knee jerk' re a 'near miss' league cup game against league two opponents that always rings the changes. Also with his recent Forest past/association not helping matters. The thing is if we were bottom, pointless and playing like Sheffield United were last season, then it would probably be more cut and dried already but we've been pretty competitive in the Prem. games so far (reflected in our narrow goal difference and being sat in 15th), even if they haven't yielded a positive result yet a month plus into the league campaign. The Palace away game was close for e.g., even if we were largely second best throughout and were unluicky with that offside decision. Everton was perhaps more of a truer reflection of where we're at, at present in so far as those being the games we have to win (yet failed to) if we're to avoid finishing in the basement three come next May and not going for the win. I think if we're where we are now at Christmas then they'll stick with him but unless we lose the next seven in a row (or don't win any of them), then I don't think they'll be sacking Cooper anytime soon.

Only positive post I've seen in a while - but I think you're being a wee bit optimistic for Saturday, lol! I would love it if it happened though obviously!!

I know what you're saying but this topic is about Faes, not Maddison!

Yes, I guess he'll never quite live the "Liverpool's best player" tag down at Anfield two seasons ago! Win that match after KDH's goal (without his two o.g.s there to follow) and we'd have stayed up!

Signed by Sven for us too in the Championship of course, who also passed this week of course. Sad times.

Not sure what our points deduction will be come the time but regardless of that then I have a nagging feeling that we could be this Prem season's Luton from last season. Hopefully there are three worse teams than us this season who keep us afloat still though, given the way we've battled so far - and if so then we can begin to establish ourselves at this level again like we did a decade ago!

The best part of it was we really were the champions, not some team moneybags team finishing 2nd to 5th that season!!

It was always going to be a tough ask but nobody really knows how this season is going to pan out despite the signs all pointing towards it being disastrous. Last time we were relegation faves we won the Prem., lol! I'm not suggesting anything of the sort will happen this season of course but 17th would be great!

I know he didn't, I just said he got the winner!

3-2 to us after being 0-2 down, January 2006 - the month Levein was sacked at the end of too!! M.De Vries late winner, one of only a few decent games he had for us in the Levein era!

Lovely bloke, RIP Craig and thanks for everything.

At least the strange twist of fate with "calamity Kalac" at Wembley lead to the '96 play off final's Claridge last minute wonder moment/goal!

He's another Conrad Logan, Eldin Jakupovic and Alex Smithies in short - easy money just sitting in the reserves! Also in Ward's case having enough goalkeeping practise here to still play for Wales!

Would be funny if he "came good" like Vestergaard did last season but I can't see it - nor him being played at all over Hermansen and Stolarczyk , not even in cup games...unless both get crocked!.

Let's hope he can emulate others of an ex Florist standing in LCFC land ; most obviously M.O'Neill and Big Wes!

A shame there isn't a "meh" option in between the yes or no too! I guess that would equate to no though!

Bertrand has got to be up there with the Peter Taylor era re your Junior Lewis, Lee Marshalls and Ade Akinbiyi's in terms of worst signing ever status! - but at least the latter two actually played reasonably regularly!

Yes, it did the likes of Sheffield United no favours at all the FFP compliance, re selling their best players after promotion before a ball was even kicked! Some of the teams 'punching' in the past two seasons - your Brentfords, Brightons, Wolves and so on could nose dive a bit next season and be in trouble and/or stagnate and then go downhill as the season progresses. Next season might not be as bad as most seem to be fearing on here and I can't see Southampton or Ipswich bettering us next season at this stage, even if we do start with a -4 points deduction or whatever like Forest had = one win and a draw! Some of it obviously hinges on whomever we bring in to replace Enzo too, if not all. I think the new safety/survival target will stay at just above the 30 mark now, whreas in days gone by it was generally late 30s of course since the three points for a win was introduced in 1981-82 season.

Claude Puel, lol!

Indeed, us appointing Ranieri was met with some disdain at the time I seem to recall and look how that turned out!

Too right, a lot of why pitch invasions seem to be frowned upon now by presumably the younger, social media driven generation or adults who were 'born middle aged' are for the reasons of sterility you mention, not to mention the modern day disconnect between the multi millionaire players and the fans....perhaps with one or two exceptions like Vardy!

I dunno so much, I was 45 at the time and definitely wasn't "born middle aged" - like some saddos on this thread!!

Me and a few thousand other dicks on the day then....