cityfanlee23

You could be right but the club have announced we are in a position to pay for a technical director if they are currently at a club. So that suggests our finances are no longer in the red? I would imagine if we got £20m for him we would be able to invest atleast £5m into a replacement.

The thing is, there was a good opportunity for us as fans to feel like the club was really turning a corner this season (if we chose to see our situation optimistically) - Top gave a somewhat of an acknowledgement that the club and fans are distant and need to come closer - DOF being moved to a new role and the club adopting a system used by the likes of Brighton and Brentford - Finances somewhat under control given we are talking about paying for a Technical director - Huge earners leaving soon - 3 of our summer signings have been an improvement and 2 of the 3 fit the blueprint of player that made us successful - Multiple youth players that could end up being prem players and we are in the perfect division to build them (silver lining of relegation) - some of the best facilities in the world All we needed was for Marti to get the most out of the players we had and keep us in touch with the playoffs then pray for a good result in the final, up until now despite us being 4points from 3rd we’ve been awful, poor tactical decisions, a system that doesn’t work and seemingly refusing to change it. If we play like we did today in most games for the rest of the season and we manage to move some players on in January and bring in some more young, hungry talent, this could really be the point where the club rebuilds.

Fantastic display today and huge credit has to go to MC who has finally over the last few games changed his awful tactical system and favoured more of a block midfield. Still not back over the fence yet, but if we can string another 3-4 performances like this together I'll be back on board again. So much hangs in the balance and relies on us going up this season, financially we could be back on a stable footing if we go up/finally get rid of big earners in summer, but just as important in our rebuild is going up would allow us to sign the likes of JJ, because he's going to the prem with or without us and teams like Palace will be waiting to snap him up if we fail to get promoted. Marti needs to continue to set us up in a similar way to today.

Keep proving us wrong Skippy. Long may this form continue, right now he's playing like a player that would make his fee look reasonable, but he needs to keep this form up to justify it yet. Plenty of potential to be extracted yet.

Only caught the 2nd half today and we were under the cosh for most of that, but we looked so much more organised in defence even after conceding, a month ago we would have lost this 4-3. Can't complain at the performance or result, a step in the right direction.

I completely agree with this, but I can't for the life of me see any young players who are available for us to go in for who will actually improve us now. With Antionio, we bring in a player who is a handful, and is miles above this level (atleast pre injury) who would dramatically improve us if he's 80% at the level he was at before the injury, even a declining antonio is better than anything we have right now. I'd prefer us to go the youth route, but I can't see who right now. I'd only offer him a maximum of 50k IF we can get rid of winks + carranza, and even then that's the absolute maximum and would prefer to go on a small basic of 25k + bonuses for appearances. Yeah 50k is probably excessive, but it gives us an instant solution to a huge problem we have, most of the fanbase had no issue with paying Vardy another 70k a week in the champ aged 38/39, obviously he was a better player than MA and we have an affinity with him, but I would say given Antionios skillset 40-50k isn't a ridiculous sum in todays market, it's the going rate for above average Champ players.

IF we can get him on a 6 month deal before re-evaluating, and if it's not on stupid money like 80k a week, and IF we can get Winks off the books and send Carranza back, i'd take him on a short term emergency deal. Guy is an absolute handful and at this level he could get 10 goals from the remaining games which is a massive upgrade on what we have now. I'd compromise and offer 50k a week if the above conditions can be met.

Bump

I said after Sheff United, I'd rather we got tonked 17-0 and were embarrassed so badly that we had to pull the trigger, all the Derby result did was give him more breathing room to throw away points in future. I'm still reluctantly in that boat. If losing tonight would guarantee we bring a new manager in, and drawing/winning would give him another month, i'd rather take the loss personally. It just isn't working, and it won't work, we are going to continue putting up inconsistent performances, getting inconsistent results and floating around mid table/bottom half.

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Sticking with the theme of the thread, i'm going to promote a name that isn't realistic at all, but IF the points deduction is say 6 points, and we got it down to 3 on appeal, and IF teams around us continue to throw games away and we are in touch of top 6, and IF the club bring in a very competent Technical Director, and IF the finances are somewhat back on track for our current level (we are looking to potentially buy a TD so there must be some money there) Could we coax Christian Streich to come out of his career break? It's not happening, It would need to be a Bielsa to Leeds moment, but given the quality we have in individuals, the facilities.... No he's not coming, goodnight

Generally speaking that's the case, there are a few outliers but yeah, this sport is incredibly hard to get to, it costs around £5-10m to get to F1 depending on raw ability, and usually it's only on the lower cost side if you have generational talent where sponsors will bare a bigger chunk of the cost.

Overall it's been a great season as the end of regulation seasons usually are. In the end Lando did what he needed in the car he had relative to everyone else, Oscar will be a WDC in future just needed a bit more consistency late on. Hopefully the new regulations create close racing and we don't end up with another runaway team as we seem to always get these days.

Yes, and that's exactly why we should be much higher than we are. To be mid table this season is a massive underperformance.

Across the 90 it was an okay performance, improved on the last 6-7 weeks. This should be the minimum though we really haven't looked like a top 6 team today overall. Need another 5-6 performances where this is the absolute minimum standard before I would consider wanting MC to get more time.

Winks was always pretty average even under Enzo. The system flattered him. 75-80% of his passes in the championship and then premier league were sideways or backwards. People saw how much of the ball he was getting under Enzo and mistook it for “controlling” the game. In reality we were so slow on the ball teams just let us have control and sat back watching us pass it sideways for 30 passes before either losing it or one of the wingers creating a chance. Very rarely did Winks produce anything exceptional. Had some good games obviously but for someone on his wage having played for England you’d expect him dominating this league as the bare minimum. There were 10+ midfielders 23/24 that could have passed the ball sideways and backwards and not lost possession. This season there have been a few games where he’s really turned the game around for us and injected a bit of life into the game, but for most games he’s been pretty average again, only this time our tactical system is of lesser quality compared to Enzo so he’s not standing out.

I can appreciate all of this, but Marti chose the dustpan and brush approach and not the bulldozer; there is absolutely nothing stopping him from being the extremely strong and no-nonsense character we desperately need. What if we give him time delivering this absolute guff, then bring in a technical director who signs more ego driven players, do we just give Marti more time in perpetuity because he isn't going to get on top of their egos? He instantly caved in to the "old guard" after telling us he loves to develop youth and give them minutes. This club in the position it's in, with the ownership and board we have, needs a leader. If he's not that, he has to go. The yes man approach only works if the club is a well-oiled machine that could run even if the manager wasn't at the match.

This is it. What people don’t seem to want to accept is that a good manager can, to some degree, offset the circus happening upstairs. Look at the messes Warnock has walked into in the past and turned around. Look at what Rohl achieved at Wednesday while Chansiri was actively destroying the club. Look at what Pearson did for us — he stopped the rot and completely revolutionised the club. Big Sam is known as a relegation specialist for a reason, because he often goes into long term damaged clubs and at the very least keeps them up and brings in players and organises them a bit more and gets them fighting. None of these names are flashy. But the point is that they all have a reputation for building foundations, creating good habits, and, most importantly, starting to stop the rot. Marti is currently helping the board push us toward oblivion with his arrogant approach to football, where he seems to believe his system is the only way — despite it being blatantly obvious that it isn’t. Good managers can take some of the sting out of the board’s incompetence. For all the mess our board has created over the last 5 years, we actually had a half-decent window: bringing in Begović, Ramsey, and JJ, while offloading multiple big earners, including great fees for McAteer, Justin, and Ndidi and we are now in a position where we can afford to actually pay for a technical director. The board, to some degree, is restructuring both the DOF and CEO positions. Top has finally realised publicly that they need to make changes. If anything, MC has inherited us at a time when we’re actually trying to fix mistakes — and yet he’s adding to them. (don't get me wrong, we are a mess with or without him) All we needed was stability on the pitch, whilst giving adequate game time to Okoli, Nelson, Aluko, Silko, Monga etc and we could be talking about this whole situation as the club turning a corner. Instead, we are now looking over our shoulder at relegation if the deduction is big, despite having at least 7-8 players that would get into the majority of promotion candidates' teams. Give me Warnock over this.

I think that’s being lenient

Edited my response at the same time you posted, went back through my chat with friends and saw the mistake, I screenshotted skys “as it stands” graphic just before Kimi had his moment. So I was doing the maths based on Lando having 406 points not 408. So yeah, I’m an idiot

Turns out my brain wasn’t working. I thought Lando was on 406 not 408 🤣 yeah if he comes 3rd he wins!

There were huge periods where we did the same under Enzo, I repeated this exact point as nauseum, the difference was we had the quality to offset the snails pace. Now we lack a lot of that edge couple with Marti-Ball actively nullifying any talent we have with a complete lack of movement from players off the ball.

So if my brain is working here is what each driver needs to be WDC next week assuming they win the final race. EDIT- It wasn’t working.

Alonso casually defending against the entire rest of the field from 6th

Here we go, hopefully be a good race! Expecting a bit of a snooze fest here though