In the past 30 years we've been embarrassed often but the 4-0 defeat to Oxford AT HOME in a league match in the lowest league position we have ever been in felt like a new level of humbling. Defeat to Forest in the cup, Wycombe, etc could be put down to cup eccentricity, and the odd league result over the years in Premier/Div 1 etc were awful but wasn't accompanied by the level of despondency that accompanies the Oxford defeat. It doesn't even feel like there is a light let alone any at the end of a tunnel.