dmayne7

The way that statement is worded is about as big an admission of the club's wrongdoing as you'll get, when you read between the lines. The tone of it is completely different to what they'd normally put out, even on this kind of subject matter; it's almost slightly apologetic.

No different with all injuries though. Quite a few lads do their ACL where they can play on and it's not until the next day that they find out it's ruptured. When I did mine, it completely went and swelled up immediately with no way I could put weight on it. That was nearly 10 years ago and I've never been able to properly run again, yet the doctor in a and e said I'd probably just hurt my meniscus . That was after he claimed he'd done the same running a marathon and couldn't get out of bed for a week. Us mere mortals probably get the worse of it in terms of recovery but it's just a bit pointless speculating at the moment. Unlikely that it's going to be nothing but that could have been a big precaution and it's fairly minor. Here's hoping anyway because his inclusion has been the only slither of hope recently

Was actually decent today. Obviously a few times it was typically loose but he dealt with quite a few tricky passes really well and some great one touch passing.

Bloody hope it's not too bad. Clearly the best defender we have

Based on your other takes, you probably think Carranza or Ayew are better than him

He was better than that. Obviously he's still crap but he worked his socks off, actually had lots of good link up play and most importantly, he gave us some sort of out ball/occupied the defence. As you say, we have to accept where we are at the moment and the fact that he's a million miles better than the other options up top

Exactly why he should be playing deeper so he can make those runs

Darling should be off. How he got away with a yellow in the 1st half is crazy

Just look at where people are pointing the finger after that goal. So many blaming anyone but him. He's given it away like that about 5 times this match.

Haha, I knew he'd scored because of the reaction here

Not exclusive to Marti but it's mind boggling that managers are so conservative to making subs when losing. Should have immediately made a double change when we went down.

Vestergaard giving it away yet again. And people think he's quality

Why, what's he done?

F that if he's crocked. I'm done

Modern football. Don't remember the last manager who didn't do this. Makes absolutely no sense

Well it's certainly better than playing at walking pace and letting the opposition do whatever they want isn't it? Beggars can't be choosers

Well considering he's the only one running and scrapping, I think you can let him off today

That all came because Vestergaard somehow let Sargent keep the ball in play. He's doesn't half make it easy to pick on him

Definite yellow but that also means Darling should have got one as well

Vestergaard twice given it away very cheaply

In terms of how he plays? He's actually got really good potential

It absolutely *could* make a difference more than any other player. And that's not a reflection on Vestergaard's ability who's decent at this level (though had many poor games this year), but more what picking forces you to do tactically: - We have to sit so much deeper defensively, inviting pressure and denying the chance to press - Our pace of play is slowed down considerably because whilst he has a great range of passing, he does not move the ball quickly, nor can he get the team up the pitch - He's often doing the same role as Winks which means we then remove yet another player from the opposition half in the build up, nullifying our impotent attack even more. Even the way Nelson played was massively different because he was not able to ping the ball like he can as that's Vestergaard's role. It's such basic analysis

Assuming the aren't was a typo. Even so, how does a 'genuine match going fan' mean somebody is not a happy clapper. Would be quite the opposite at the moment given the number of people on here that are refusing to go, buy things from the club etc.

Saw him in his training kit last night so would suggest he's not a million miles away from being back. Him and Nelson would be great, just a shame it won't matter when we have nothing going forward.

This is a club that turned down good money for players like Iversen, only to freeze him out for 2 years. We're more than capable of doing something like this.