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Kasper Hjulmund would 100% manage us. He has knowledge of our Danish contingent and he would actually play progressive football. We don’t have to play how Enzo wanted us to play but bringing in a manager who will give them a good shape and patterns of play to improvise off then we will have a much better chance of staying up this season. https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/kasper-hjulmand-denmark-nordsjaelland-tactics/

Yeah sound but if we didn’t have the 2nd coming of a Danish goalkeeping king in goal we would have lost about 8-2.

“Tell me your new gaffer is shit without telling me he’s shit.” 🤣

There’s too many managers with good reputations that warrant a real look in at a Premier League side. Despite what many people say we have a more than good enough squad to stay up this season.

Aside from Kerkez their back 4 is average. I’m not taking Lewis Cook over Winks, I would say there’s barely anything between Skipp and Ryan Christie. I’d rather have Fatawu, Mavididi and Buonanotte over Semenyo, Outtara and Tavernier. Evanilson is better than Vardy at this stage in Vardy’s career. People really need to stop underplaying our squad just because the man in control of it is ****ing dog shit.

To quote Orangecity23: “The team looked bad in pre season The team looked bad in competitive PL games The team looked bad in the cup vs a League 2 team The underlying stats are bad, and indicate results will get worse than they already are if things revert to a mean level with finishing / goalkeeping. If things had gone according to XG, we'd have lost every game. The manager's past is riddled with bad stats that indicate he cannot correct his current long run without a win The manager's past indicates he is very poor at winning away games in the Premier League In game tactics are bad and not working, with noticeable problems with poor team shape and positioning, and players looking confused as to where they should be or what they should be doing There is very little change of tactics or formation on a game by game basis to try to correct this Team selections have been poor Subsitutions have been dreadful, to the point of not even making sense What, exactly, are we supposed to be looking to give us any hope that he is worth retaining, other than vague platitudes about "needing more time", or falsely labelling everyone wanting his gone as being solely motivated by his Forest links - what will he implement with more time? There is no evidence that a better style or cohesive team emerges from more time under his coaching, if his Forest team is any evidence.”

I do agree that the modern positional based approach isn’t what purists love about the game and it definitely isn’t the only approach to the game, I think the biggest issue is that you can’t go from a structured, methodical approach and then turn that off and completely change the way you are asking the players to see the game. You have to take small steps to go from one extreme to the other and Cooper hasn’t done that. You are right that confidence is a huge part of football that often gets overlooked and for me from day one Cooper hasn’t given that air of confidence that he can build on from last season and doesn’t give the players an authoritative leader to get behind.

Someone mentioned it previously but the parallels between how Ranieri and Cooper ended up managing our club are very similar. A new leader coming into the club after a period of success. So we as fans have already seen this kind of situation play out before and we’ve seen how a new manager coming in and making subtle tweaks can build on the previous man’s foundations. That being said Cooper set himself up to fail from the outset for me. Despite saying he wanted to build off last season, what we are seeing has no resemblance to how the team performed under Enzo. Enzo was meticulous in planning, he made sure that every player knew their role within the 11 man team if they were selected for a game and the team functioned as a cohesive unit pretty much from the start. I remember watching the first half hour of football against Liverpool in pre-season and thinking “this is impressive to have a new group of players performing like this so early on”. The players were almost robotic in that they knew exactly where the ball should go when faced with different scenarios on the pitch and the patterns of play were rhythmic at best. Cooper has come in and taken that structure away, you can see it in the training videos, Enzo and his coaching staff would use the same training drills and repetition was key, Enzo essentially acted like a conductor for an orchestra, making sure players were all on the same page. Cooper and his staff have taken the opposite approach and are trying to get the players to be expressive and work out solutions themselves and the players clearly aren’t reacting to this, this is why we look so lost in games, you can’t go from an environment of heavily structured play to completely removing the structure, it has to be a process. He’s alienated the two vital cogs in the Enzo machine, Vestergaard and Ricardo and he’s made the roles they played null and void in his new setup. He’s also not getting the best out of Harry Winks, this new system we are playing does not play to his strengths and going back to a double pivot in midfield instead of a full back inverting will not work unless he plays a midfielder alongside Winks that can receive the ball under pressure, turn and get us up the field. Both Fulham and Everton focused solely on marking Winks out of the game and leaving Ndidi free in deep areas of the pitch because they knew we couldn’t play fluidly through the 3rds of the pitch when building from the back with Ndidi. Not to mention throughout the summer, Cooper would make it clear that he felt the team wasn’t good enough in attacking areas and needed reinforcements, it’s not a great message to a group of players that you’ve worked with for a matter of weeks and then imagine being a player from the squad last season and look at who your new leader has brought in; BDCR - no better than what we already have and now preventing the development pathway of the likes of Alves, McAteer and Golding. Ayew - no better than Mavididi, Fatawu, Vardy, Daka and albeit a better player than BDCR, does he really improve us at this stage of his career? Buonanotte - clearly a good player and does improve us but won’t be here after this season Bilal - jury’s out but based on his performance on Saturday he’s gonna need time and nurturing to get up to speed Edouard - no better than Vardy or Daka and we spent the bulk of our transfer money on Skipp and Okoli in positions that we can’t say are of a real need in comparison to us screaming out for a proper striker who can start to take the mantle from the legend that is Jamie Vardy. He’s ****ed it because he’s not at the level of the previous manager and he’s thrown away pretty much everything Enzo built upon last season, despite what he may claim in the media.

He said N’Gotty played for France and then it was the first time he had a player who had played for their national team and then captained a team in his “6 a side World Cup training tournament” as N’Gotty captained the France team

Can I just say that tonight should be the turning point for the club really. As soon as you have your team putting in performances like tonight, with players making so many basic errors and having no coherent structure, it’s time to think of a succession plan. As much as the likes of Soumare come in for criticism the lad still won a Ligue 1 title so he’s no mug. Cooper has to go, this was a doomed appointment from the start really. The team was lost tonight.

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Are you being serious?

I like that we won because it’s weird to want your team to lose but honestly deep down I am torn because it helps to keep that useless Welsh goblin in a job and let me tell you now that **** is definitely useless at this level.

Genuinely what has BDCR done to warrant still being on the pitch rather than letting Alves have a bash at it?

You’ve just made my point for me. We’ve gone from having a manager who meticulously planned and drilled the players to the point that the patterns and movement became robotic. To copy a phrase someone posted on here before, now we have a manager who has copied the homework but doesn’t know how to work the answer out himself. Walsall are a committed and well drilled side, you can’t just throw 11 players on the pitch and expect them to work it out at this level.

Are you having a laugh? These players look like they’ve never trained together. There’s no coherent style of play. That’s on the manager.

Steve’s clearly had a bust up with Vestergaard, he won’t be happy with him questioning his decision making during the last international window and shock now he’s nowhere to be seen. Our best RB is being made to play Carabao cup games against League 2 opposition, despite goals constantly coming down our right hand side in the league Bilal wasn’t great in first start on Saturday and could have done with a confidence boost in the cup. Golding should be playing instead of Soumare and Alves should be playing over BDCR. Fatawu no doubt is being played on the left wing because Steve is adamant he can get him playing well from that position so he can rotate him with Mavididi and keep Ayew constantly on the right. Basically anything that was logical, Steve hasn’t done. Nice one Steve.

Sorry lads and lasses, I’ve tried, I really have, but I keep coming back to the same thought. GET THIS FOREST LOVING SHIT BASTARD OUT OF OUR CLUB. Apologies for those who are trying to be positive but his team selections make me want to punch people.

Despite my team request, let’s be honest Alves will be lucky to see 5 minutes because Steve will want minutes into Fatawu, BDCR and McAteer.

Ward Ricky P Coady Vestergaard Thomas Skipp Hamza Fatawu Bilal Alves Edouard This please Steve.

We’ve had 285 consecutive games with someone who’s come through the academy being involved in the first team squad but Hamza was the only 1 on Saturday and for a man who makes himself seem like the champion of youth that would be a funny record for him to break.

If I was gaffer: Hermansen Ricky P Faes Okoli Kristiansen Winks Skipp Buonanotte Bilal Mavididi Vardy

We sold Harvey Barnes in the same accounting year so it would be the clubs fault if we don’t manage to clear PSR for last season!

If any Forest fans are lurking on here. I only have 1 thing to say… **** all you bitches.

Harvey Barnes and KDH were sold in the same accounting year for anywhere from £70-80 million combined, that’s pure profit. It’s almost impossible for us to fall foul of PSR when you combine that with the loss of big wage earners from the club over this period too.