ALC Fox

I'd say it's perfectly fine to be annoyed at the current state of the club. We shouldn't be in this position. Getting relegated with a squad that included players who have just been eliminated in heroic fashion in the Champions League (Tielemans) and who are in top form chasing a CL place (Barnes) shouldn't have happened. But Tielemans, Soyuncu and several others had been here too long as Rodgers sought to keep all our 'good' players and we recruited very badly in an attempt to supplement the squad. This led to high wages and a stagnant feeling in the squad and we went down while being 'too good to go down'. After being promoted back up on largely a feeling of real positivity and a thought that Maresca was going to change the club, the club's lies to Maresca (or hiding of the truth) were really laid bare and he left. Of course he would have gone anyway, but we then appointed the wrong man in Cooper, sacked him to appoint somebody a lot worse in RVN, and were unable to refresh the squad (the defence especially) to give us a proper chance of staying up. We've deserved to go down all season. The amount of chances we've conceded, it's probably a miracle that we have any points at all. This is the worst Premier League team we've ever had, and when you consider just how likeable our title winners and also Martin O'Neill's fighters were, that is just incredibly demoralising as a fan. After witnessing the greatest escape under Pearson and comparing that to the capitulation all season long under Cooper and RVN, I think we're within our rights as a fanbase to expect a lot more than this. I can accept relegation, but this is truly abhorrent.

I'm fully on board with wholesale changes. Rudkin, Whelan, anyone who makes decisions about strategy. I'm happy for Top to take back seat and just let someone else make decisions if that's the case. For me that would count as learning from their mistakes. If they can't, then I'm happy to admit that KP should go. I still think they could turn it around, it just remains to be seen if they will.

If they can get so much right before, they can get it right again. It isn't inconceivable. Whether they will or not is another matter, but people commonly learn from their mistakes in all walks of life.

We can be absolutely appreciative that we were champions of England for the first time ever and won the FA Cup for the first time ever. We can be in awe of the great work that the owners have done and continue to do around the city. We can sing Vichai's name and love him forever. But we can also voice our complete dissatisfaction about how the club is currently being run, the financial hole we've found ourselves in, and the sh!thouse legal crap we've pulled to delay or completely wriggle out of any PSR punishments that makes every other club look at us with disdain. KP need a wake-up call. I'm 100% fine with them remaining the owners and being in charge of the club. But they need to learn from their mistakes and correct things from the top down. We're falling behind in the professionalism and talent that is being employed at board level and - for all that loyalty is to be admired - we need change. Good luck with the banner, I hope it makes the desired impact

While the gap between the Championship and Premier League is huge and getting bigger, I don't think it's unreasonable for us to have made a better fist of things this season. Southampton are historically bad and were lucky to be promoted really. Last season they were really streaky and we hammered them twice. Ipswich still have many players who have come up with them from League One. Yes they recruited well but really that was with one eye on having the best side in the Championship next season. Wolves and West Ham have always had better squads than us this season and it wouldn't have been a catastrophic failure to be relegated in 18th having scored more goals and defended A LOT better throughout the season. Cooper had us fighting but we were still giving up far too many chances. He was the wrong appointment at the wrong time and Ruud has been magnitudes worse. We could be taking this fight towards the last couple of games of the season but in reality we've been gone for a while. And that really isn't good enough.

Mavididi, Fatawu, Monga and Alves would be some pretty tasty options in the Championship next season if things fall that way

Is this perhaps the point? If Ruud has been told to put him on the bench/give him a few minutes, surely this will be a factor. If he gets a few more appearances, any compensation should be increased if he's already a Premier League player. The fact that he didn't look out of place among all 22 players on the pitch will only reinforce that. From a selfish LCFC point of view, the prospect of shelling out more money will hopefully put teams off, we keep him long enough to give him a professional contract and he's part of an exciting young side that takes us back into the Prem and re-establishes the club back among the elite (I'm dreaming)

Not entirely sure why some want Dyche. Everton were probably realistic candidates for relegation under him, which, when you consider just how bad the current bottom three are, is some achievement. He'd set us up to defend, which these players can't do. So not a great deal would change at all, in my opinion.

Get Ruud out. Give it Gary O'Neil until the end of the season. He likely won't save us but it'll be better than this sh!t. He's worked miracles before so you never know. He probably wouldn't come but it's worth a try at least.

Rinse and repeat. I know we need to protect some of these young lads. But some of them are tearing it up and are full of confidence. You look at this starting XI and the match-day squad in total, and you cannot see how we're going to do anything differently in the manner that Ruud sets us up.

Just playing actual senior football should be a big boost for him. If he can come into our squad with (hopefully) better players around him, he should develop quite quickly.

Will have had a chance here next season. Instead he'll be going through their academy set-up competing with the likes of Emile Heskey's lads and all the talent they've got. Hope he doesn't get lost there but we should be keeping tabs on him in case it doesn't work out and we can bring him home. Until a deal is done, though, he's still ours. I hope we can convince him to play first-team football next season and he decides to stay.

I wonder how closely we keep tabs on the talents that do get taken away early. Obviously Nyoni has a pathway at Liverpool. But someone like Noubissie, for example. I know he was just in the same England U16 squad as Monga but it would be interesting if we made it known that we were continuing to follow his development at Man City. He may be tearing it up, I don't know. I say this based on Tyler Dibling. He left Southampton for Chelsea and returned because he didn't settle there. It happens at first-team level so there's no reason why it wouldn't happen at youth level too. Now he's suddenly Southampton's best player and is being linked with big moves again. And if there's a youth player whose big move doesn't work out, where else is better to get back to a good level than the club where you earned the big move in the first place? So, if we do start to regularly have talents pinched from us, I do wonder if it's part of the strategy to keep tabs and swoop in if things start looking less rosy for them at their new clubs

What are the rules about picking a 15-year-old? I know he can be in a squad and can play but are there restrictions on playing time and also minutes played within a certain period of time? Also mustn't there be the provision to have him change in a separate changing room? Can this provision be provided at any ground or are there some grounds where this can't happen? Plus there's the duty of care to think of when playing against fully-grown men. One crunching tackle from a Milenkovic, Maguire or Ruben Dias and he's toast. He looks ready ability-wise - and I really want to see him put some of our waste-of-space first-teamers to shame - but there are other matters that affect whether he can play or not, and for how long.

Attack attack attack. We can't defend so just try to bulldoze teams. We may end up worse but we're going down anyway. Change tack, create a bit of excitement, get the crowd onside, throw a couple of the U21s in and at the very least go down with a fight.

Tonight's performance may have been partly down to the dearth of quality in the squad as well as the recruitment (and lack of). But the manager must take a lot of responsibility. There were no coherent patterns of play at all. Everything was reactive. The players received the ball and then took a touch and had a look around and wondered 'what do I do now then?' When receiving the ball after a corner, Soumare had a look and took an age to make a decision to give it back to Ayew, the corner taker. Ayew had two men to take on, realised his only back-up was Soumare who had made no overlapping run and then Ayew made the decision to take on a run at goal. There was no forethought, no moves honed on the training ground, no one-touch football. The players didn't know where each other were going to be. The midfield was absolutely vacant at times when Ndidi joined Vardy up top and El Khannous drifted out wide with absolutely nobody else filling the gap. With Mavididi and Buonanotte on the bench, there was no pace or penetration out wide. Both players now starved of game time and looking leggy for it when they came on, unable to really get up to speed with the game. Buonanotte still looks like a real talent but is being criminally overlooked. Absolutely everything stinks of poor management, both by King Power and Van Nistelrooy. Honking.

Like all wingers he'll drift in and out of games. Sounds like he was decent. Feels like he's on the cusp. Once he was one barnstorming game, he'll be their go-to guy.

Some selfish so-and-so on the M6 tonight not only hogging lane three of four at 60-65 mph but also having a very obvious FaceTime on a mounted phone and very clearly paying most of his attention to the call he was on

How good is Josh King in comparison?

Wondering if there will ever again be a stadium that doesn't play Freed From Desire after a home win

It's a fair point. It's also a risk to go into the second tier. If Parker doesn't fancy him for whatever reason, then he's failed to get into a Championship side which, you could argue, could be more detrimental for his reputation than failing to turn around a club that is currently a car crash on multiple fronts.

Marcus Edwards is an insane signing for the Championship. I know he hasn't been used that much for Sporting this season, but he was ripping it up the other season. Surely he can't have dropped off enough not to get a PL move? Should've been a no-brainer for a team like us.

Hopefully this is the Barnes to West Brom loan that indicates he's ready for us next season.

Send Edouard back. Get Rashford in. Just a six-month loan. No obligation. No option. Just work with Ruud again (who picked him consistently in his short interim spell in charge of Man Utd). Re-assess at the end of the season. Maybe another 12-month loan if we stay up, Ruud stays on and Rashford enjoyed it. Only a semi-serious suggestion because of wage issues, etc. but if no other move (for him or us) materialises before the end of the window, it could be a move that works for all parties.

Three managers didn't fancy him at two different levels (winning the Championship and fighting relegation back to it). He does look quite limited but he also does look like a very good, clean finisher. If he can develop certain sides of his game, he'll be a regular at the top end of the Championship and at the level we currently find ourselves at. But he's not there yet. We do need goalscorers but I think it's worth the risk to use the money and improve the squad in a couple of areas, including up top if possible.